Highest Paying Majors 5 years After Graduation

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Anonymous wrote:Our DC is considered “underemployed” in law enforcement because the position doesn’t require a degree to start. Five years after earning their B.S. they earn a $102k salary and $40k+ in overtime. They get a raise every year, and sometimes two raises.

That’s better than earnings of Chemical Engineering majors at 35-45 year olds, the #1 major, BTW. Our child could retire with a full pension at 46. LOL.

Our child will make sergeant soon. That comes with a nice raise. By 35 they’ll be a lieutenant. That’s a big salary bump. That’s when 1.5x overtime rates really start to pay out.

BS

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/chemical-engineers.htm
https://www.mtu.edu/engineering/about/salary/

I thought engineers are good at math?

From your link:

The overall median annual wage for chemical engineers is $121,860, which is less than that of our twenty something LEO child.

Then there’s this gem:

Most chemical engineers work full time, and some work more than 40 hours per week. They may have to work additional hours to meet production targets or to troubleshoot problems with manufacturing processes.

Extra hours for salaried employees are a great time.

Newsflash. Chemical Engineers go into many fields that don't involve actually being Chemical Engineers. Top Engineering schools producing Chemical Engineers have graduates go into Top Consulting, Analytics/Quant and a lot of other fields where they make a lot of $$$ my friend even though chemical engineers make very good money . Nice try though butt your premise is laughable.

Then why isn’t the median salary for Chem E majors higher? Riddle me that.

Because they are not working as chemical engineers but they have chemical engineering degrees working high level corporate jobs not related. So not included.

Now do the school median salary reporting that tracks degree earners, not occupation.

Parents here love to point to the 1% of 1% unicorns as some sort of norm.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DC is considered “underemployed” in law enforcement because the position doesn’t require a degree to start. Five years after earning their B.S. they earn a $102k salary and $40k+ in overtime. They get a raise every year, and sometimes two raises.

That’s better than earnings of Chemical Engineering majors at 35-45 year olds, the #1 major, BTW. Our child could retire with a full pension at 46. LOL.

Our child will make sergeant soon. That comes with a nice raise. By 35 they’ll be a lieutenant. That’s a big salary bump. That’s when 1.5x overtime rates really start to pay out.

BS

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/chemical-engineers.htm
https://www.mtu.edu/engineering/about/salary/

I thought engineers are good at math?

From your link:

The overall median annual wage for chemical engineers is $121,860, which is less than that of our twenty something LEO child.

Then there’s this gem:

Most chemical engineers work full time, and some work more than 40 hours per week. They may have to work additional hours to meet production targets or to troubleshoot problems with manufacturing processes.

Extra hours for salaried employees are a great time.

Newsflash. Chemical Engineers go into many fields that don't involve actually being Chemical Engineers. Top Engineering schools producing Chemical Engineers have graduates go into Top Consulting, Analytics/Quant and a lot of other fields where they make a lot of $$$ my friend even though chemical engineers make very good money . Nice try though butt your premise is laughable.

Then why isn’t the median salary for Chem E majors higher? Riddle me that.

Dude...cool your kid is a cop. But please stop this nonsense.

It’s not cool, and has never been about cool. In some places it’s a job you can do with a high school diploma and make decent money without putting yourself in debt for a B.A./B.S. degree.

The mantra here that you need to spend $120,000 - $400,000 and four years of your life to then spend 2+ more years in school, and more money, to out earn a cop is anything but cool.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DC is considered “underemployed” in law enforcement because the position doesn’t require a degree to start. Five years after earning their B.S. they earn a $102k salary and $40k+ in overtime. They get a raise every year, and sometimes two raises.

That’s better than earnings of Chemical Engineering majors at 35-45 year olds, the #1 major, BTW. Our child could retire with a full pension at 46. LOL.

Our child will make sergeant soon. That comes with a nice raise. By 35 they’ll be a lieutenant. That’s a big salary bump. That’s when 1.5x overtime rates really start to pay out.

BS

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/chemical-engineers.htm
https://www.mtu.edu/engineering/about/salary/

I thought engineers are good at math?

From your link:

The overall median annual wage for chemical engineers is $121,860, which is less than that of our twenty something LEO child.

Then there’s this gem:

Most chemical engineers work full time, and some work more than 40 hours per week. They may have to work additional hours to meet production targets or to troubleshoot problems with manufacturing processes.

Extra hours for salaried employees are a great time.

Newsflash. Chemical Engineers go into many fields that don't involve actually being Chemical Engineers. Top Engineering schools producing Chemical Engineers have graduates go into Top Consulting, Analytics/Quant and a lot of other fields where they make a lot of $$$ my friend even though chemical engineers make very good money . Nice try though butt your premise is laughable.

Then why isn’t the median salary for Chem E majors higher? Riddle me that.

Dude...cool your kid is a cop. But please stop this nonsense.

It’s not cool, and has never been about cool. In some places it’s a job you can do with a high school diploma and make decent money without putting yourself in debt for a B.A./B.S. degree.

The mantra here that you need to spend $120,000 - $400,000 and four years of your life to then spend 2+ more years in school, and more money, to out earn a cop is anything but cool.

Is this Mike Rowe?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our DC is considered “underemployed” in law enforcement because the position doesn’t require a degree to start. Five years after earning their B.S. they earn a $102k salary and $40k+ in overtime. They get a raise every year, and sometimes two raises.

That’s better than earnings of Chemical Engineering majors at 35-45 year olds, the #1 major, BTW. Our child could retire with a full pension at 46. LOL.

Our child will make sergeant soon. That comes with a nice raise. By 35 they’ll be a lieutenant. That’s a big salary bump. That’s when 1.5x overtime rates really start to pay out.

BS

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/chemical-engineers.htm
https://www.mtu.edu/engineering/about/salary/

I thought engineers are good at math?

From your link:

The overall median annual wage for chemical engineers is $121,860, which is less than that of our twenty something LEO child.

Then there’s this gem:

Most chemical engineers work full time, and some work more than 40 hours per week. They may have to work additional hours to meet production targets or to troubleshoot problems with manufacturing processes.

Extra hours for salaried employees are a great time.

Newsflash. Chemical Engineers go into many fields that don't involve actually being Chemical Engineers. Top Engineering schools producing Chemical Engineers have graduates go into Top Consulting, Analytics/Quant and a lot of other fields where they make a lot of $$$ my friend even though chemical engineers make very good money . Nice try though butt your premise is laughable.

Then why isn’t the median salary for Chem E majors higher? Riddle me that.

Dude...cool your kid is a cop. But please stop this nonsense.

It’s not cool, and has never been about cool. In some places it’s a job you can do with a high school diploma and make decent money without putting yourself in debt for a B.A./B.S. degree.

The mantra here that you need to spend $120,000 - $400,000 and four years of your life to then spend 2+ more years in school, and more money, to out earn a cop is anything but cool.

Is this Mike Rowe?

No, just the parent of a 2021 grad cop that will buy their first home outside D.C. in the next year, before those ‘21 grads that pursued a MA or PhD graduate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:silly piece. The answer is humanities into law school = $235K BigLaw Starting Salary. And if you clerked for SCOTUS, you get a signing bonus of $500,000.

So humanities for maybe a couple hundred students in the country.

.. and spend $$$ for a grad degree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our DC is considered “underemployed” in law enforcement because the position doesn’t require a degree to start. Five years after earning their B.S. they earn a $102k salary and $40k+ in overtime. They get a raise every year, and sometimes two raises.

That’s better than earnings of Chemical Engineering majors at 35-45 year olds, the #1 major, BTW. Our child could retire with a full pension at 46. LOL.

Our child will make sergeant soon. That comes with a nice raise. By 35 they’ll be a lieutenant. That’s a big salary bump. That’s when 1.5x overtime rates really start to pay out.

If this is being a cop, then that has its issues, the obvious one being safety, but it's also a very stressful job.

I have cousins and friends who are cops.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our DC is considered “underemployed” in law enforcement because the position doesn’t require a degree to start. Five years after earning their B.S. they earn a $102k salary and $40k+ in overtime. They get a raise every year, and sometimes two raises.

That’s better than earnings of Chemical Engineering majors at 35-45 year olds, the #1 major, BTW. Our child could retire with a full pension at 46. LOL.

Our child will make sergeant soon. That comes with a nice raise. By 35 they’ll be a lieutenant. That’s a big salary bump. That’s when 1.5x overtime rates really start to pay out.

Ok and our plumber makes 190k.
I make 240k as a part-time physician in a group practice, working 32 hrs a week, no overtime needed and time to spare for spouse/family(three 10-11 hr days). I am the very lowest paid of all of my med school friends because i chose part time, would not have it any other way. They are raking in 400-600k.
Spouse makes 260k as a FT engineer and sibling makes way more than 300k, he won't say, as an engineer with a PhD.
Our neighbor makes 700k as a lawyer, spouse stays home, and they are continuously complaining they not rich enough to afford private college yet we sent two.

There are lots of high paying jobs everywhere. The goal is to do what you enjoy and hope you are good at managing money because many are not.

What did all ofthese advanced degrees cost? That’s the opportunity cost. The discussion is about undergraduate majors that pay the most.

You also need to factor in the pension and early retirement.

phD degrees are free tuition and they pay you, these days 55k which is better compared to COL than our day.
Med school is easy to pay off with the big salary (170k total in loans for 3 yrs, 26yrs ago, got merit for one year, T5 med). I was making 160k as a part time physician at age 35, 18 yrs ago, and I have a great pension.
lawyer is retiring soon, before 55. I think his parents paid not sure. He works from home a lot since 2020.
Sibling could retire any time he wants he merely enjoys working and has a pension.

Good for your son but his salary for the overtime hours and lifestyle strain sounds pretty rough compared to those with the higher degrees

dp... A lot of doctors and lawyers spend a lot of time working and are also constantly stressed out. They are not able to spend much time with family because they work so much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our DC is considered “underemployed” in law enforcement because the position doesn’t require a degree to start. Five years after earning their B.S. they earn a $102k salary and $40k+ in overtime. They get a raise every year, and sometimes two raises.

That’s better than earnings of Chemical Engineering majors at 35-45 year olds, the #1 major, BTW. Our child could retire with a full pension at 46. LOL.

Our child will make sergeant soon. That comes with a nice raise. By 35 they’ll be a lieutenant. That’s a big salary bump. That’s when 1.5x overtime rates really start to pay out.

DC doesn’t want a job where they might get shot.

Is there a profession where someone hasn’t been shot, stabbed or violently attacked at work? At least our child has a bulletproof vest, several guns, training, and armed backup.

You’re more likely to get seriously injured on the way to and from work than a police officer is to get shot on the job.

? presumably, the police officer also drives to work, and actually, they drive much more than an office worker would. So, cops have even a higher job of being injured on the job than an office worker.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our DC is considered “underemployed” in law enforcement because the position doesn’t require a degree to start. Five years after earning their B.S. they earn a $102k salary and $40k+ in overtime. They get a raise every year, and sometimes two raises.

That’s better than earnings of Chemical Engineering majors at 35-45 year olds, the #1 major, BTW. Our child could retire with a full pension at 46. LOL.

Our child will make sergeant soon. That comes with a nice raise. By 35 they’ll be a lieutenant. That’s a big salary bump. That’s when 1.5x overtime rates really start to pay out.

DC doesn’t want a job where they might get shot.

Is there a profession where someone hasn’t been shot, stabbed or violently attacked at work? At least our child has a bulletproof vest, several guns, training, and armed backup.

You’re more likely to get seriously injured on the way to and from work than a police officer is to get shot on the job.

? presumably, the police officer also drives to work, and actually, they drive much more than an office worker would. So, cops have even a higher job of being injured on the job than an office worker.

I never said they didn’t have a higher risk. I merely pointed out that the “cops get shot” argument isn’t as impactful as some would believe.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DC is considered “underemployed” in law enforcement because the position doesn’t require a degree to start. Five years after earning their B.S. they earn a $102k salary and $40k+ in overtime. They get a raise every year, and sometimes two raises.

That’s better than earnings of Chemical Engineering majors at 35-45 year olds, the #1 major, BTW. Our child could retire with a full pension at 46. LOL.

Our child will make sergeant soon. That comes with a nice raise. By 35 they’ll be a lieutenant. That’s a big salary bump. That’s when 1.5x overtime rates really start to pay out.

BS

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/chemical-engineers.htm
https://www.mtu.edu/engineering/about/salary/

I thought engineers are good at math?

From your link:

The overall median annual wage for chemical engineers is $121,860, which is less than that of our twenty something LEO child.

Then there’s this gem:

Most chemical engineers work full time, and some work more than 40 hours per week. They may have to work additional hours to meet production targets or to troubleshoot problems with manufacturing processes.

Extra hours for salaried employees are a great time.

Newsflash. Chemical Engineers go into many fields that don't involve actually being Chemical Engineers. Top Engineering schools producing Chemical Engineers have graduates go into Top Consulting, Analytics/Quant and a lot of other fields where they make a lot of $$$ my friend even though chemical engineers make very good money . Nice try though butt your premise is laughable.

Then why isn’t the median salary for Chem E majors higher? Riddle me that.

Dude...cool your kid is a cop. But please stop this nonsense.

It’s not cool, and has never been about cool. In some places it’s a job you can do with a high school diploma and make decent money without putting yourself in debt for a B.A./B.S. degree.

The mantra here that you need to spend $120,000 - $400,000 and four years of your life to then spend 2+ more years in school, and more money, to out earn a cop is anything but cool.

Is this Mike Rowe?

No, just the parent of a 2021 grad cop that will buy their first home outside D.C. in the next year, before those ‘21 grads that pursued a MA or PhD graduate.

I respect those that serve as police officers, but I don't want my kid to be one. So, there is that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our DC is considered “underemployed” in law enforcement because the position doesn’t require a degree to start. Five years after earning their B.S. they earn a $102k salary and $40k+ in overtime. They get a raise every year, and sometimes two raises.

That’s better than earnings of Chemical Engineering majors at 35-45 year olds, the #1 major, BTW. Our child could retire with a full pension at 46. LOL.

Our child will make sergeant soon. That comes with a nice raise. By 35 they’ll be a lieutenant. That’s a big salary bump. That’s when 1.5x overtime rates really start to pay out.

Ok and our plumber makes 190k.
I make 240k as a part-time physician in a group practice, working 32 hrs a week, no overtime needed and time to spare for spouse/family(three 10-11 hr days). I am the very lowest paid of all of my med school friends because i chose part time, would not have it any other way. They are raking in 400-600k.
Spouse makes 260k as a FT engineer and sibling makes way more than 300k, he won't say, as an engineer with a PhD.
Our neighbor makes 700k as a lawyer, spouse stays home, and they are continuously complaining they not rich enough to afford private college yet we sent two.

There are lots of high paying jobs everywhere. The goal is to do what you enjoy and hope you are good at managing money because many are not.

What did all ofthese advanced degrees cost? That’s the opportunity cost. The discussion is about undergraduate majors that pay the most.

You also need to factor in the pension and early retirement.

phD degrees are free tuition and they pay you, these days 55k which is better compared to COL than our day.
Med school is easy to pay off with the big salary (170k total in loans for 3 yrs, 26yrs ago, got merit for one year, T5 med). I was making 160k as a part time physician at age 35, 18 yrs ago, and I have a great pension.
lawyer is retiring soon, before 55. I think his parents paid not sure. He works from home a lot since 2020.
Sibling could retire any time he wants he merely enjoys working and has a pension.

Good for your son but his salary for the overtime hours and lifestyle strain sounds pretty rough compared to those with the higher degrees

dp... A lot of doctors and lawyers spend a lot of time working and are also constantly stressed out. They are not able to spend much time with family because they work so much.

And many are not. Almost all of my physician and lawyer friends have more free time and better family balance than the finance/bankers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our DC is considered “underemployed” in law enforcement because the position doesn’t require a degree to start. Five years after earning their B.S. they earn a $102k salary and $40k+ in overtime. They get a raise every year, and sometimes two raises.

That’s better than earnings of Chemical Engineering majors at 35-45 year olds, the #1 major, BTW. Our child could retire with a full pension at 46. LOL.

Our child will make sergeant soon. That comes with a nice raise. By 35 they’ll be a lieutenant. That’s a big salary bump. That’s when 1.5x overtime rates really start to pay out.

Ok and our plumber makes 190k.
I make 240k as a part-time physician in a group practice, working 32 hrs a week, no overtime needed and time to spare for spouse/family(three 10-11 hr days). I am the very lowest paid of all of my med school friends because i chose part time, would not have it any other way. They are raking in 400-600k.
Spouse makes 260k as a FT engineer and sibling makes way more than 300k, he won't say, as an engineer with a PhD.
Our neighbor makes 700k as a lawyer, spouse stays home, and they are continuously complaining they not rich enough to afford private college yet we sent two.

There are lots of high paying jobs everywhere. The goal is to do what you enjoy and hope you are good at managing money because many are not.

What did all ofthese advanced degrees cost? That’s the opportunity cost. The discussion is about undergraduate majors that pay the most.

You also need to factor in the pension and early retirement.

phD degrees are free tuition and they pay you, these days 55k which is better compared to COL than our day.
Med school is easy to pay off with the big salary (170k total in loans for 3 yrs, 26yrs ago, got merit for one year, T5 med). I was making 160k as a part time physician at age 35, 18 yrs ago, and I have a great pension.
lawyer is retiring soon, before 55. I think his parents paid not sure. He works from home a lot since 2020.
Sibling could retire any time he wants he merely enjoys working and has a pension.

Good for your son but his salary for the overtime hours and lifestyle strain sounds pretty rough compared to those with the higher degrees

dp... A lot of doctors and lawyers spend a lot of time working and are also constantly stressed out. They are not able to spend much time with family because they work so much.

Being a cop, especially all that overtime PP noted, is certainly bad work-life balance and stressful!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our DC is considered “underemployed” in law enforcement because the position doesn’t require a degree to start. Five years after earning their B.S. they earn a $102k salary and $40k+ in overtime. They get a raise every year, and sometimes two raises.

That’s better than earnings of Chemical Engineering majors at 35-45 year olds, the #1 major, BTW. Our child could retire with a full pension at 46. LOL.

Our child will make sergeant soon. That comes with a nice raise. By 35 they’ll be a lieutenant. That’s a big salary bump. That’s when 1.5x overtime rates really start to pay out.

Ok, but maybe you don’t want to work so much overtime? Maybe you have other things going on in your life such that you’d like to be minimally at work (ie, not working overtime) yet making great money?

I work with a few 30-something surgeons who work 3 days a week, rarely on call. Maybe 36 hours? And they pull in $600k. Oh and they love their work. LOVE.

I wish I had a kid who was marginally interested in this line of work

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our DC is considered “underemployed” in law enforcement because the position doesn’t require a degree to start. Five years after earning their B.S. they earn a $102k salary and $40k+ in overtime. They get a raise every year, and sometimes two raises.

That’s better than earnings of Chemical Engineering majors at 35-45 year olds, the #1 major, BTW. Our child could retire with a full pension at 46. LOL.

Our child will make sergeant soon. That comes with a nice raise. By 35 they’ll be a lieutenant. That’s a big salary bump. That’s when 1.5x overtime rates really start to pay out.

BS

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/chemical-engineers.htm
https://www.mtu.edu/engineering/about/salary/

I thought engineers are good at math?

From your link:

The overall median annual wage for chemical engineers is $121,860, which is less than that of our twenty something LEO child.

Then there’s this gem:

Most chemical engineers work full time, and some work more than 40 hours per week. They may have to work additional hours to meet production targets or to troubleshoot problems with manufacturing processes.

Extra hours for salaried employees are a great time.

Newsflash. Chemical Engineers go into many fields that don't involve actually being Chemical Engineers. Top Engineering schools producing Chemical Engineers have graduates go into Top Consulting, Analytics/Quant and a lot of other fields where they make a lot of $$$ my friend even though chemical engineers make very good money . Nice try though butt your premise is laughable.

Then why isn’t the median salary for Chem E majors higher? Riddle me that.

Dude...cool your kid is a cop. But please stop this nonsense.

It’s not cool, and has never been about cool. In some places it’s a job you can do with a high school diploma and make decent money without putting yourself in debt for a B.A./B.S. degree.

The mantra here that you need to spend $120,000 - $400,000 and four years of your life to then spend 2+ more years in school, and more money, to out earn a cop is anything but cool.

No one is saying you need to doi anything. Some, many, want to go to into careers that require MD, JD, phD, DDS, etc. They happen to outearn cops. Some do not.
Others want to be cops, presumably it is not for the money as overall it does not pay as much as certain non-college jobs and has a lot more risk.
Who cares? Do what you want, don't knock those who made different choices. No one is knocking being a cop, that is great! You are knocking everyone who chose careers that require extensive education then bragging about overtime pay and getting a house first. So? It is not a race.

[Anonymous]

Unless you are a principal in an engineering company there is not much in the way of salary growth or advancement.