Here's what I don't understand

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The grade inflation is massive. What was a C+ when I started teaching almost 30 years ago is now an A-. And I am under enormous pressure to raise my grades. I have tried to fight it but it's futile, my administration has raised my grades after parents complained, even when I thoroughly documented everything. It's a joke and a shame.

Weird. My content has been updated almost every 3 or so years, because students continue to exceed expectations. Might be time to start blaming you and your peers.

[Anonymous]

Grade inflation + standardized test gaming/studying + a lot more domestic and intl’l students + activity/extracurricular inflation.

It’s pretty straightforward.

Many of the students lack the proper analytical and critical thinking skills that are necessary to function at a higher level. See, for example the original post of this thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are kids these days way smarter than kids of our generation? (80s-90s)
Every kid seems to have top scores and all As. Whereas, at my rigorous public high school in the mid-90s, regular bright well-rounded kids with As/Bs but not Einstein-level grades, were going to Northwestern, Dartmouth, UPenn, Wellesley, etc. I had strong but not exceptional grades and got into Vassar. Now it seems in order to get into a T30, you need all As and all APs. Am I missing something here? How is this happening? Did this generation produce geniuses?

No, kids are less resilient, less capable of critical thinking, but good at taking multiple choice tests with obvious answers. Professors want good rate my professor scores. College is just like high school. Set a low bar everyone gets As, let the employers and professional schools sort out the wheat from the chaff.

Sad really.

College content is much more advanced than when you went. These parents have such bad cope. Continues to call the younger generation less resilient while being old asf and whining on a forum, because some mythical children aren’t to your stupid standard.

This. It is graduation season. At every graduation some students excelled and get honors at graduation. Most certainly not all did. This nonsense that every single kid is sailing through college stress-free acing class is such utter nonsense.
It's a difficult challenging task to consistently be at the top of your class in college for years. Don't let these morons on dcum feed you a bunch of nonsense.

I realized these parents were all wrong after attending DD’s graduation. Her best friend finds time to be a double major in math and neuroscience, works in 2 labs, has published 3 times and been first author on one of those papers, has highest honors, has 2 jobs to sustain herself- the girl is Questbridge!, starts working full time in a couple days as a research assistant for her advisor while also taking starting night classes for her masters. Her other friends have also done some very impressive work- one worked with the EU and has worked on the successful campaign of two politicians and spent one summer working with bidens office, another got a law fellowship with SLS and did her thesis on field work in Brazil where she lived in a favela and documented the culture of femicide. These kids are working their tails off and of course the grumpy moms here have to trash it.

The blabbing away here on dcum does not mean any of these posters actually have children in college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are kids these days way smarter than kids of our generation? (80s-90s)
Every kid seems to have top scores and all As. Whereas, at my rigorous public high school in the mid-90s, regular bright well-rounded kids with As/Bs but not Einstein-level grades, were going to Northwestern, Dartmouth, UPenn, Wellesley, etc. I had strong but not exceptional grades and got into Vassar. Now it seems in order to get into a T30, you need all As and all APs. Am I missing something here? How is this happening? Did this generation produce geniuses?

Mediocre white kids aren’t being given carte blanche admissions anymore. Gotta step your academic game up!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are kids these days way smarter than kids of our generation? (80s-90s)
Every kid seems to have top scores and all As. Whereas, at my rigorous public high school in the mid-90s, regular bright well-rounded kids with As/Bs but not Einstein-level grades, were going to Northwestern, Dartmouth, UPenn, Wellesley, etc. I had strong but not exceptional grades and got into Vassar. Now it seems in order to get into a T30, you need all As and all APs. Am I missing something here? How is this happening? Did this generation produce geniuses?

No, kids are less resilient, less capable of critical thinking, but good at taking multiple choice tests with obvious answers. Professors want good rate my professor scores. College is just like high school. Set a low bar everyone gets As, let the employers and professional schools sort out the wheat from the chaff.

Sad really.

College content is much more advanced than when you went. These parents have such bad cope. Continues to call the younger generation less resilient while being old asf and whining on a forum, because some mythical children aren’t to your stupid standard.

This. It is graduation season. At every graduation some students excelled and get honors at graduation. Most certainly not all did. This nonsense that every single kid is sailing through college stress-free acing class is such utter nonsense.
It's a difficult challenging task to consistently be at the top of your class in college for years. Don't let these morons on dcum feed you a bunch of nonsense.

I realized these parents were all wrong after attending DD’s graduation. Her best friend finds time to be a double major in math and neuroscience, works in 2 labs, has published 3 times and been first author on one of those papers, has highest honors, has 2 jobs to sustain herself- the girl is Questbridge!, starts working full time in a couple days as a research assistant for her advisor while also taking starting night classes for her masters. Her other friends have also done some very impressive work- one worked with the EU and has worked on the successful campaign of two politicians and spent one summer working with bidens office, another got a law fellowship with SLS and did her thesis on field work in Brazil where she lived in a favela and documented the culture of femicide. These kids are working their tails off and of course the grumpy moms here have to trash it.

I love everything about this! Thanks for sharing it.

[Anonymous]

No way. Not even close.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are also more kids especially more global competition

+1 More Asian kids (I'm Asian btw).

Still, my kids were challenged a lot more than I was (even with grade inflation). Their school had tons of AP/IB classes. My HS had four.

This is totally true. We used to spend hours researching things llle what is the capital of X and what are its main export products, blah blah. Drive to library, find the world book, look it up, etc. They can have that answer in two seconds. It does open up doors for them to just learn more. I was advanced and took th Spanish AP in 12th grade and calc BC in 12th, U.S. history in 11th. My kids took us history in 10th, calculus in 11tj grade, took th ap Spanish test as sophomore etc. with all the tech kids can learn more more quickly. I think they are reading fewer books and writing fewer book report type essays but are learning a ton of other stuff I never did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Grade inflation + standardized test gaming/studying + a lot more domestic and intl’l students + activity/extracurricular inflation.

It’s pretty straightforward.

Many of the students lack the proper analytical and critical thinking skills that are necessary to function at a higher level. See, for example the original post of this thread.

Sounds like average students. You’d think the last generation was filled with Einsteins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grade inflation + standardized test gaming/studying + a lot more domestic and intl’l students + activity/extracurricular inflation.

It’s pretty straightforward.

Many of the students lack the proper analytical and critical thinking skills that are necessary to function at a higher level. See, for example the original post of this thread.

Sounds like average students. You’d think the last generation was filled with Einsteins.

Agreed that the average seems to be quite idiotic for a while now. Look at the President. This same group of individuals lived through bush as president. Many of them likely supported the war in Iraq. They’re the white collar class that encouraged globalization. Now they want to rewrite history and blame their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grade inflation + standardized test gaming/studying + a lot more domestic and intl’l students + activity/extracurricular inflation.

It’s pretty straightforward.

Many of the students lack the proper analytical and critical thinking skills that are necessary to function at a higher level. See, for example the original post of this thread.

Sounds like average students. You’d think the last generation was filled with Einsteins.

Agreed that the average seems to be quite idiotic for a while now. Look at the President. This same group of individuals lived through bush as president. Many of them likely supported the war in Iraq. They’re the white collar class that encouraged globalization. Now they want to rewrite history and blame their kids.

In general, 50+ year olds are incredibly selfish. As parents, they’re mostly failures who support Byzantine punishments for everyone else but a tap on the wrist for themselves. The millennial parents I work with are either terrible iPad parents or some of the most intentional parents of my career. A few could be pediatric psychologists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Grade inflation + standardized test gaming/studying + a lot more domestic and intl’l students + activity/extracurricular inflation.

It’s pretty straightforward.

Many of the students lack the proper analytical and critical thinking skills that are necessary to function at a higher level. See, for example the original post of this thread.

Sounds like average students. You’d think the last generation was filled with Einsteins.

Agreed that the average seems to be quite idiotic for a while now. Look at the President. This same group of individuals lived through bush as president. Many of them likely supported the war in Iraq. They’re the white collar class that encouraged globalization. Now they want to rewrite history and blame their kids.

Ugh must we bring everyone back to Republicans? And politics? So intellectually lazy.

Let me guess, PP—you had a 4.0 GPA 😂😂😂

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grade inflation + standardized test gaming/studying + a lot more domestic and intl’l students + activity/extracurricular inflation.

It’s pretty straightforward.

Many of the students lack the proper analytical and critical thinking skills that are necessary to function at a higher level. See, for example the original post of this thread.

Sounds like average students. You’d think the last generation was filled with Einsteins.

Agreed that the average seems to be quite idiotic for a while now. Look at the President. This same group of individuals lived through bush as president. Many of them likely supported the war in Iraq. They’re the white collar class that encouraged globalization. Now they want to rewrite history and blame their kids.

Ugh must we bring everyone back to Republicans? And politics? So intellectually lazy.

Let me guess, PP—you had a 4.0 GPA 😂😂😂

Yes because “kids are dumb” is such an intellectual conversation. Also education is extremely political- it’s where the money is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grade inflation + standardized test gaming/studying + a lot more domestic and intl’l students + activity/extracurricular inflation.

It’s pretty straightforward.

Many of the students lack the proper analytical and critical thinking skills that are necessary to function at a higher level. See, for example the original post of this thread.

Sounds like average students. You’d think the last generation was filled with Einsteins.

Agreed that the average seems to be quite idiotic for a while now. Look at the President. This same group of individuals lived through bush as president. Many of them likely supported the war in Iraq. They’re the white collar class that encouraged globalization. Now they want to rewrite history and blame their kids.

Ugh must we bring everyone back to Republicans? And politics? So intellectually lazy.

Let me guess, PP—you had a 4.0 GPA 😂😂😂

Grade inflation in k-12- what encourages it? Funding. Where does the money come from? Politics.

At the college level, grade inflation- what encourages it? A few things: A) student evaluations aid in promotion. But why do the students need such perfect grades? Well they want to work for top companies and they want fellowships and all that comes with that. Why do they feel that way? Maybe consider the economy, the pressure to join in on consulting/IB, the stress of not having a job- Politics. B) students have been receiving As and expect As. Why have they been receiving so many As, go back to grade inflation in k-12 C) the crop of students are coming in hyperspecialized and institutions have responded by chipping away the broad liberal arts curriculum. But why are students demanding this? Pre professionalism. Where is that coming from. Go back to A).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are kids these days way smarter than kids of our generation? (80s-90s)
Every kid seems to have top scores and all As. Whereas, at my rigorous public high school in the mid-90s, regular bright well-rounded kids with As/Bs but not Einstein-level grades, were going to Northwestern, Dartmouth, UPenn, Wellesley, etc. I had strong but not exceptional grades and got into Vassar. Now it seems in order to get into a T30, you need all As and all APs. Am I missing something here? How is this happening? Did this generation produce geniuses?

The SAT is able to be studied for now, and there is grade inflation.

The SAT that you took is very different than the SAT that your kids take. Previously, you could get a small edge by doing SAT prep and memorizing vocab. But the logic sections, i.r. kitten:cat::puppy:dog are gone.

Getting rid of analogies was a result of an intentional move to make the SATs more susceptible to study. This was a deliberate move to try improve diversity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wake up from your college coma grandma. It’s a whole new world!

I'm 46, not 96.

If this is indeed posted by OP, then she must be a super genius. Accepted at college at the age of 6! Move over Gen Z!