SUNY rankings

[Anonymous]

I have spent my whole life living in NYC or the NJ suburbs of NYC so know the schools well. The rankings above are very accurate.

I just find there to be a certain provincialism and lack of sophistication among many of the SUNYs. I think this is why many kids from New York go out of state, often to state schools that might cost a lot more and not actually be any better. You will get this to some degree at any state school, particularly a larger one, but it just seems more prevalent at SUNYs.

Sorry - hard to explain. But IYKYK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have spent my whole life living in NYC or the NJ suburbs of NYC so know the schools well. The rankings above are very accurate.

I just find there to be a certain provincialism and lack of sophistication among many of the SUNYs. I think this is why many kids from New York go out of state, often to state schools that might cost a lot more and not actually be any better. You will get this to some degree at any state school, particularly a larger one, but it just seems more prevalent at SUNYs.

Sorry - hard to explain. But IYKYK.

This is true. Definitely seen as a middle class option.

I think there are some great niche programs though, like at Delhi for carpentry/construction or ESF for forestry. Amazing they still offer but these programs lead to jobs.

[Anonymous]

I'd add SUNY Polytechnic to Tier 4

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have spent my whole life living in NYC or the NJ suburbs of NYC so know the schools well. The rankings above are very accurate.

I just find there to be a certain provincialism and lack of sophistication among many of the SUNYs. I think this is why many kids from New York go out of state, often to state schools that might cost a lot more and not actually be any better. You will get this to some degree at any state school, particularly a larger one, but it just seems more prevalent at SUNYs.

Sorry - hard to explain. But IYKYK.

Very true. It's a class division (with some exceptions). That said, this seems to be true of all non-flagship or non Top 50 public schools and is not unique to SUNYs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd rank them:

Tier 1: Binghamton, Stony Brook
Tier 2: Buffalo
Tier 3: Geneseo, Albany
Tier 4: New Paltz, Oswego, Oneonta, Purchase (if not studying the arts)
Tier 5: Potsdam, Brockport, Plattsburgh
Tier 6: Everything else
Niche: Purchase (for arts); ESF (for environmental science)

There are some notable programs at the different schools. The Crane School of music in Potsdam is highly regarded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Grew up in Long Island. Didn't even apply to Stony Brook because I wanted to get away. SB was a decent school then as #4 of SUNY, but its reputation has surpassed all but Binghamton's in recent years.

I graduated from Geneseo. Its origin is a teachers college, but I think a SUNY Liberal Arts college is a better term for it. Rural and pretty, and focused on teaching. Unfortunately its reputation has gone the other way apparently vs. SB in recent years.

Still a good choice for those who want liberal arts college education and small school feel at the SUNY tuition level.

Did you, though?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grew up in Long Island. Didn't even apply to Stony Brook because I wanted to get away. SB was a decent school then as #4 of SUNY, but its reputation has surpassed all but Binghamton's in recent years.

I graduated from Geneseo. Its origin is a teachers college, but I think a SUNY Liberal Arts college is a better term for it. Rural and pretty, and focused on teaching. Unfortunately its reputation has gone the other way apparently vs. SB in recent years.

Still a good choice for those who want liberal arts college education and small school feel at the SUNY tuition level.

Did you, though?

+1. I assumed that had to be a typo b/c no Long Islander would every say "in" Long Island.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grew up in Long Island. Didn't even apply to Stony Brook because I wanted to get away. SB was a decent school then as #4 of SUNY, but its reputation has surpassed all but Binghamton's in recent years.

I graduated from Geneseo. Its origin is a teachers college, but I think a SUNY Liberal Arts college is a better term for it. Rural and pretty, and focused on teaching. Unfortunately its reputation has gone the other way apparently vs. SB in recent years.

Still a good choice for those who want liberal arts college education and small school feel at the SUNY tuition level.

Did you, though?

LOL. Caught that too. Though I would argue that growing up ON Long Island could be compared to being sentence to living IN Jail. Very few places there I would want to live.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have spent my whole life living in NYC or the NJ suburbs of NYC so know the schools well. The rankings above are very accurate.

I just find there to be a certain provincialism and lack of sophistication among many of the SUNYs. I think this is why many kids from New York go out of state, often to state schools that might cost a lot more and not actually be any better. You will get this to some degree at any state school, particularly a larger one, but it just seems more prevalent at SUNYs.

Sorry - hard to explain. But IYKYK.

Very true. It's a class division (with some exceptions). That said, this seems to be true of all non-flagship or non Top 50 public schools and is not unique to SUNYs.

Agreed but at SUNY it is even applicable at the top schools while, like you said, in other states it is only generally at the non-flagships.

There's just a lack of a certain social refinement from SUNY grads. And a lack of awareness that they are lacking that social refinement. They aren't crass or anything like that. Just not people who would hold up well at a black tie event with a bunch of Ivy League types. Which creates a ceiling for them professionally. And don't get me wrong, that ceiling is fairly high. But there is a limit that you don't see from other top publics. I worked at a big bank in NYC. Lots of SUNY grads in mid-office making a very nice living, but very few making the big bucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grew up in Long Island. Didn't even apply to Stony Brook because I wanted to get away. SB was a decent school then as #4 of SUNY, but its reputation has surpassed all but Binghamton's in recent years.

I graduated from Geneseo. Its origin is a teachers college, but I think a SUNY Liberal Arts college is a better term for it. Rural and pretty, and focused on teaching. Unfortunately its reputation has gone the other way apparently vs. SB in recent years.

Still a good choice for those who want liberal arts college education and small school feel at the SUNY tuition level.

Did you, though?

She graduated from Geneseo. What do you expect? A lot of people have grammar issues, so I often see people say things like I live in the UWS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grew up in Long Island. Didn't even apply to Stony Brook because I wanted to get away. SB was a decent school then as #4 of SUNY, but its reputation has surpassed all but Binghamton's in recent years.

I graduated from Geneseo. Its origin is a teachers college, but I think a SUNY Liberal Arts college is a better term for it. Rural and pretty, and focused on teaching. Unfortunately its reputation has gone the other way apparently vs. SB in recent years.

Still a good choice for those who want liberal arts college education and small school feel at the SUNY tuition level.

Did you, though?

She graduated from Geneseo. What do you expect? A lot of people have grammar issues, so I often see people say things like I live in the UWS.

It is kind of interesting that some places are on, some are in? You live in the West Village, in Chelsea, in Queens, Brooklyn, the Bronx (don't get me started on "the" Bronx) but on Long Island, on the UWS, on Staten Island, on the UES. Why? These are the things that keep me up at night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grew up in Long Island. Didn't even apply to Stony Brook because I wanted to get away. SB was a decent school then as #4 of SUNY, but its reputation has surpassed all but Binghamton's in recent years.

I graduated from Geneseo. Its origin is a teachers college, but I think a SUNY Liberal Arts college is a better term for it. Rural and pretty, and focused on teaching. Unfortunately its reputation has gone the other way apparently vs. SB in recent years.

Still a good choice for those who want liberal arts college education and small school feel at the SUNY tuition level.

Did you, though?

She graduated from Geneseo. What do you expect? A lot of people have grammar issues, so I often see people say things like I live in the UWS.

It is kind of interesting that some places are on, some are in? You live in the West Village, in Chelsea, in Queens, Brooklyn, the Bronx (don't get me started on "the" Bronx) but on Long Island, on the UWS, on Staten Island, on the UES. Why? These are the things that keep me up at night.

I represent Queens, she was raised out in Brooklyn

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grew up in Long Island. Didn't even apply to Stony Brook because I wanted to get away. SB was a decent school then as #4 of SUNY, but its reputation has surpassed all but Binghamton's in recent years.

I graduated from Geneseo. Its origin is a teachers college, but I think a SUNY Liberal Arts college is a better term for it. Rural and pretty, and focused on teaching. Unfortunately its reputation has gone the other way apparently vs. SB in recent years.

Still a good choice for those who want liberal arts college education and small school feel at the SUNY tuition level.

Did you, though?

LOL. Caught that too. Though I would argue that growing up ON Long Island could be compared to being sentence to living IN Jail. Very few places there I would want to live.

I have to assume the PP had a typo. Otherwise fugeddaboudit.

Parts of LI are very beautiful. I grew up on the south shore in Suffolk County, and now in my middle age I realize what a beautiful spot that was to live. At the same time, I was delighted to move away from Long Island and get away from the people and all of the negative aspects of life there. Can’t beat NYC though!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grew up in Long Island.

Did you, though?

PP here. Good catch. I don't live on Long Island anymore. But I did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have spent my whole life living in NYC or the NJ suburbs of NYC so know the schools well. The rankings above are very accurate.

I just find there to be a certain provincialism and lack of sophistication among many of the SUNYs. I think this is why many kids from New York go out of state, often to state schools that might cost a lot more and not actually be any better. You will get this to some degree at any state school, particularly a larger one, but it just seems more prevalent at SUNYs.

Sorry - hard to explain. But IYKYK.

Very true. It's a class division (with some exceptions). That said, this seems to be true of all non-flagship or non Top 50 public schools and is not unique to SUNYs.

Agreed but at SUNY it is even applicable at the top schools while, like you said, in other states it is only generally at the non-flagships.

There's just a lack of a certain social refinement from SUNY grads. And a lack of awareness that they are lacking that social refinement. They aren't crass or anything like that. Just not people who would hold up well at a black tie event with a bunch of Ivy League types. Which creates a ceiling for them professionally. And don't get me wrong, that ceiling is fairly high. But there is a limit that you don't see from other top publics. I worked at a big bank in NYC. Lots of SUNY grads in mid-office making a very nice living, but very few making the big bucks.

You know there are several CEOs, many large law firm/Wall Street partners etc who are SUNY grads. I think they are mingling in those spaces just fine.