Pomona v Occidental

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No offense, but this debate sounds like who's the tallest midget. They both attract quality students. Not outstanding.

Pomona has fewer than 30 students getting 1560 or more on the SAT for its entire freshman class.

At Occidental, 108 students bothered to submit an SAT score. Of those who did, probably 2 or 3 actually scored above 1560. The 75% at Occidental is only 1510. So only 26 students in total scored above 1510.

These are both fine schools. Let's not make them out to be something different than each other.

This may sound crazy but maybe Pomona has many students it could choose with good SATs and *shocker* they don’t care.

Our 1590/4.0 kid was rejected. He’s going to Yale now. They aren’t hurting for high scoring students.

lol...sure he was. Liars gotta lie I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No offense, but this debate sounds like who's the tallest midget. They both attract quality students. Not outstanding.

Pomona has fewer than 30 students getting 1560 or more on the SAT for its entire freshman class.

At Occidental, 108 students bothered to submit an SAT score. Of those who did, probably 2 or 3 actually scored above 1560. The 75% at Occidental is only 1510. So only 26 students in total scored above 1510.

These are both fine schools. Let's not make them out to be something different than each other.

This may sound crazy but maybe Pomona has many students it could choose with good SATs and *shocker* they don’t care.

Our 1590/4.0 kid was rejected. He’s going to Yale now. They aren’t hurting for high scoring students.

lol...sure he was. Liars gotta lie I guess.

Pomona cares a ton about diversity (maybe even too much) so chances for the unhooked are slim.

[Anonymous]

Wow, this Oxy vs Pomona beef is serious! I guess close rivals are the source of some of the strongest clashes, so it does make sense. No dog in this fight, but man these two go hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No offense, but this debate sounds like who's the tallest midget. They both attract quality students. Not outstanding.

Pomona has fewer than 30 students getting 1560 or more on the SAT for its entire freshman class.

At Occidental, 108 students bothered to submit an SAT score. Of those who did, probably 2 or 3 actually scored above 1560. The 75% at Occidental is only 1510. So only 26 students in total scored above 1510.

These are both fine schools. Let's not make them out to be something different than each other.

This may sound crazy but maybe Pomona has many students it could choose with good SATs and *shocker* they don’t care.

According to all statistical analysis, the majority (more than 50%) of high scorers (1560+) attend Ivy, Stanford or MIT.

There’s only a class of about 400 at Pomona.

Yeah, and they have fewer than 30 who even got higher than a 1560 on the SAT. Your point?

[Anonymous]

Pomona has a higher percent of low income and first gen students than most elite schools, who traditionally do worse on test scores. I respect their commitment to making sure they’re taking all sorts of students rather than hyperfixating on people who do good on one exam.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pomona has a higher percent of low income and first gen students than most elite schools, who traditionally do worse on test scores. I respect their commitment to making sure they’re taking all sorts of students rather than hyperfixating on people who do good on one exam.

Does anyone know if this "hyperfixation" on FGLI is new or longstanding? I know very successful alums from Pomona, wondering if results will start to get diluted or if they have always done this and still got great results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pomona has a higher percent of low income and first gen students than most elite schools, who traditionally do worse on test scores. I respect their commitment to making sure they’re taking all sorts of students rather than hyperfixating on people who do good on one exam.

Does anyone know if this "hyperfixation" on FGLI is new or longstanding? I know very successful alums from Pomona, wondering if results will start to get diluted or if they have always done this and still got great results.

They’ve been doing this for almost 2 decades now. Being broke doesn’t make you dumb for Christ sakes.

[Anonymous]

Pitzer is also half the size of Oxy.

I have a student at Oxy who is doing very well there. I also know numerous kids at Pitzer and Scripps. DC was a strong student that got a good merit scholarship from Oxy.

On prestige, Pomona is a different league than Oxy. It just is.

I personally think the 5 Cs is a great consortium and would expect most to accept a Pomona offer over Oxy.

Having grown up in the LA area (west side), Oxy is an infinitely better location than Claremont.

Socially at school I would expect the 5 Cs schools to be better, and that is consistent with what I hear happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pitzer is also half the size of Oxy.

I have a student at Oxy who is doing very well there. I also know numerous kids at Pitzer and Scripps. DC was a strong student that got a good merit scholarship from Oxy.

On prestige, Pomona is a different league than Oxy. It just is.

I personally think the 5 Cs is a great consortium and would expect most to accept a Pomona offer over Oxy.

Having grown up in the LA area (west side), Oxy is an infinitely better location than Claremont.

Socially at school I would expect the 5 Cs schools to be better, and that is consistent with what I hear happening.

I’d rather live in Claremont than eagle rock. You spend most of your time in your campus, not commuting around LA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pitzer is also half the size of Oxy.

I have a student at Oxy who is doing very well there. I also know numerous kids at Pitzer and Scripps. DC was a strong student that got a good merit scholarship from Oxy.

On prestige, Pomona is a different league than Oxy. It just is.

I personally think the 5 Cs is a great consortium and would expect most to accept a Pomona offer over Oxy.

Having grown up in the LA area (west side), Oxy is an infinitely better location than Claremont.

Socially at school I would expect the 5 Cs schools to be better, and that is consistent with what I hear happening.

PP, what is Pomona's reputation to locals and the west coast in general? Here in the east coast, the general public and some professionals have not heard of the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pitzer is also half the size of Oxy.

I have a student at Oxy who is doing very well there. I also know numerous kids at Pitzer and Scripps. DC was a strong student that got a good merit scholarship from Oxy.

On prestige, Pomona is a different league than Oxy. It just is.

I personally think the 5 Cs is a great consortium and would expect most to accept a Pomona offer over Oxy.

Having grown up in the LA area (west side), Oxy is an infinitely better location than Claremont.

Socially at school I would expect the 5 Cs schools to be better, and that is consistent with what I hear happening.

PP, what is Pomona's reputation to locals and the west coast in general? Here in the east coast, the general public and some professionals have not heard of the school.

it's not well-known on the west coast to most locals. the school is tiny- Claremont High School has more students than it does- and 67% of their students are from out-of-state.

[Anonymous]

How is in not well known when every other post on this board references WASP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pitzer is also half the size of Oxy.

I have a student at Oxy who is doing very well there. I also know numerous kids at Pitzer and Scripps. DC was a strong student that got a good merit scholarship from Oxy.

On prestige, Pomona is a different league than Oxy. It just is.

I personally think the 5 Cs is a great consortium and would expect most to accept a Pomona offer over Oxy.

Having grown up in the LA area (west side), Oxy is an infinitely better location than Claremont.

Socially at school I would expect the 5 Cs schools to be better, and that is consistent with what I hear happening.

PP, what is Pomona's reputation to locals and the west coast in general? Here in the east coast, the general public and some professionals have not heard of the school.

It’s no less well known than Williams or Swarthmore is to the general public. That is, not at all.

[Anonymous]

Pomona is very well known and respected here in our area in Southern CA. I think it's an amazing school, although DC didn't apply and is headed to the East Coast.

I will say - everyone always talks about how impossible it is to get into Pomona but our high school has an admit or two each year. This year two. And we're not at a particularly fancy school. A pretty good, well-regarded public school in So Cal. Is it not as hard as it seems? We have a fair number of students headed to Ivy and Top 20 schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pomona is very well known and respected here in our area in Southern CA. I think it's an amazing school, although DC didn't apply and is headed to the East Coast.

I will say - everyone always talks about how impossible it is to get into Pomona but our high school has an admit or two each year. This year two. And we're not at a particularly fancy school. A pretty good, well-regarded public school in So Cal. Is it not as hard as it seems? We have a fair number of students headed to Ivy and Top 20 schools.

It’s much easier in California, because they target students from California. It’s a long term plan for the college now that international dollars are drying up