GTM Architects getting sloppy...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is OP. Ya'll are crazy. No foyer, PR off the dining room (and looks small and ugly), weird entry off back to kitchen, terrible basement layout, cheap sliding doors, bad window placement upstairs, horribly small deck, no patio, overwhelming large on a hill, crazy roof line, and on....They want $3.4M.

LOL on people saying they were inspired by the 1920s.

Why are you upset there is no foyer? My 1930s house doesn't have a foyer either. Front door opens into the center hall, similar to this house. Most houses back then didn’t have a foyer in addition to an entry hall. This isn't a Victorian rowhouse. Of all the houses I've been in my neighborhood of 20s-30s houses of 3-5k sq ft, the only ones with a "foyer" are those with the staircase rising above the front door, creating a little entry niche separate from the hall.

As for the powder room, it's not off the dining room. It opens into the passage between the hall and dining room. I can see a point that it's still visible to those at the dining table and I wondered why it wasn't placed where the big closet is off the hall, then I realized that closet is situated as an elevator space if future owners wanted to install one, as this closet has identical ones in the same location on the second and third floors.

The kitchen has a nice mudroom to the back. Don't see a problem with it.

Everything else you claimed is just nitpicking. I'm looking at the floor plan and as someone with the classic center hall colonial of the 20s-30s, this house is more livable and I'm a bit jealous. My house is big but the wrong rooms are big for today's lifestyle and I'd love to have the same open kitchen family room combination. And the upper floors are well laid out with none of the wasted spaces typical of mcmansions. As I said in my first post, for a professional family with two busy parents likely partly working at home and 2-3 teens, this is really a great layout if you're seeking to marry modern lifestyle conveniences with some of the charms of older houses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's just a typical nice new house, OP. They almost defintely had a budget which limits a lot of what you can do, and they certainly had a client who directed the work (or nixed some suggestions). It's totally fine. I'm an architecture professor, by the way.

What's your beef with GTM? This seems like a "stealth" competitor post.

LOL. What was their budget if selling the house for $3.4? It's been on the market since last year -- probably because it sucks.

If you think a powder room off the dining room is fine, then you are a terrible at design.

Like PP said if you live in the neighborhood you know GTM. There are enough builders of shitty spindly houses here, we don't need to add a formerly-reputable firm to the mix.

DP
It’s in the market since last year because it is over-improved for the immediate block.
The builder built $3.4M house where most buyers are looking to spend $2.5M.

[Anonymous]

It looks like the design and layout was limited by the narrow lot, but you get a yard and a carriage house. Family room space seems tight and no space for built-ins. Other than that I like it.

[Anonymous]

While bland and characterless, it looks like a good use of the space. It's practical, and if the materials are good quality, it should make its owners happy.

But I agree, not very exciting to look at.
A lot of exciting houses are nightmares to actually live in, OP...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is OP. Ya'll are crazy. No foyer, PR off the dining room (and looks small and ugly), weird entry off back to kitchen, terrible basement layout, cheap sliding doors, bad window placement upstairs, horribly small deck, no patio, overwhelming large on a hill, crazy roof line, and on....They want $3.4M.

LOL on people saying they were inspired by the 1920s.

Why are you upset there is no foyer? My 1930s house doesn't have a foyer either. Front door opens into the center hall, similar to this house. Most houses back then didn’t have a foyer in addition to an entry hall. This isn't a Victorian rowhouse. Of all the houses I've been in my neighborhood of 20s-30s houses of 3-5k sq ft, the only ones with a "foyer" are those with the staircase rising above the front door, creating a little entry niche separate from the hall.

As for the powder room, it's not off the dining room. It opens into the passage between the hall and dining room. I can see a point that it's still visible to those at the dining table and I wondered why it wasn't placed where the big closet is off the hall, then I realized that closet is situated as an elevator space if future owners wanted to install one, as this closet has identical ones in the same location on the second and third floors.

The kitchen has a nice mudroom to the back. Don't see a problem with it.

Everything else you claimed is just nitpicking. I'm looking at the floor plan and as someone with the classic center hall colonial of the 20s-30s, this house is more livable and I'm a bit jealous. My house is big but the wrong rooms are big for today's lifestyle and I'd love to have the same open kitchen family room combination. And the upper floors are well laid out with none of the wasted spaces typical of mcmansions. As I said in my first post, for a professional family with two busy parents likely partly working at home and 2-3 teens, this is really a great layout if you're seeking to marry modern lifestyle conveniences with some of the charms of older houses.

It's a $3M+ house. My 1930's house has one, so I guess I cancel out your anecdote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is OP. Ya'll are crazy. No foyer, PR off the dining room (and looks small and ugly), weird entry off back to kitchen, terrible basement layout, cheap sliding doors, bad window placement upstairs, horribly small deck, no patio, overwhelming large on a hill, crazy roof line, and on....They want $3.4M.

LOL on people saying they were inspired by the 1920s.

Why are you upset there is no foyer? My 1930s house doesn't have a foyer either. Front door opens into the center hall, similar to this house. Most houses back then didn’t have a foyer in addition to an entry hall. This isn't a Victorian rowhouse. Of all the houses I've been in my neighborhood of 20s-30s houses of 3-5k sq ft, the only ones with a "foyer" are those with the staircase rising above the front door, creating a little entry niche separate from the hall.

As for the powder room, it's not off the dining room. It opens into the passage between the hall and dining room. I can see a point that it's still visible to those at the dining table and I wondered why it wasn't placed where the big closet is off the hall, then I realized that closet is situated as an elevator space if future owners wanted to install one, as this closet has identical ones in the same location on the second and third floors.

The kitchen has a nice mudroom to the back. Don't see a problem with it.

Everything else you claimed is just nitpicking. I'm looking at the floor plan and as someone with the classic center hall colonial of the 20s-30s, this house is more livable and I'm a bit jealous. My house is big but the wrong rooms are big for today's lifestyle and I'd love to have the same open kitchen family room combination. And the upper floors are well laid out with none of the wasted spaces typical of mcmansions. As I said in my first post, for a professional family with two busy parents likely partly working at home and 2-3 teens, this is really a great layout if you're seeking to marry modern lifestyle conveniences with some of the charms of older houses.

It's a $3M+ house. My 1930's house has one, so I guess I cancel out your anecdote.

Sure, OP.