Elrich slate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:More like term-limited by politicians who otherwise couldn't keep him out of office because his constituents kept voting him in. Many at the polls don't make the connection between an abstract idea, like term limits, and the effect, like term-limiting the County Executive position without grandfathering in prior periods of service meaning that the candidates for that office at the next election may well be less desirable than the incumbent one had preferred to that point.

Honestly, the way the prior post is written, "term-limited by his constituents" sounds like a shill for Friedson, trying to cast a shade at his opponent, Jawando, whom Elrich decided to support, instead.

No. 68% of the voters in the county approved that referendum to kick him out after two terms. 68%


Elrich historically only wins by a tiny plurality. That's why we need rank choice voting so these crappy primaries give us what the people truly want.

404,000 registered democrats in MoCo in 2022.
143,000 voted in 2022 primary.
55,000 voted for Elrich.

People don't like Elrich.
The system does.

Those who are registered unaffiliated (independent) and actually care about who runs this county, need to switch to Democrat for the primary and vote.

+1 that's what I did. If you are not registered as a Dem in this county, your vote is a throw away.

25% of all registered voters in MoCo have no party affiliation, including myself. We need open primaries, not for such a large group of voters to choose a party affiliation to get around the "system".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More like term-limited by politicians who otherwise couldn't keep him out of office because his constituents kept voting him in. Many at the polls don't make the connection between an abstract idea, like term limits, and the effect, like term-limiting the County Executive position without grandfathering in prior periods of service meaning that the candidates for that office at the next election may well be less desirable than the incumbent one had preferred to that point.

Honestly, the way the prior post is written, "term-limited by his constituents" sounds like a shill for Friedson, trying to cast a shade at his opponent, Jawando, whom Elrich decided to support, instead.

No. 68% of the voters in the county approved that referendum to kick him out after two terms. 68%


Elrich historically only wins by a tiny plurality. That's why we need rank choice voting so these crappy primaries give us what the people truly want.

404,000 registered democrats in MoCo in 2022.
143,000 voted in 2022 primary.
55,000 voted for Elrich.

People don't like Elrich.
The system does.

Those who are registered unaffiliated (independent) and actually care about who runs this county, need to switch to Democrat for the primary and vote.

+1 that's what I did. If you are not registered as a Dem in this county, your vote is a throw away.

25% of all registered voters in MoCo have no party affiliation, including myself. We need open primaries, not for such a large group of voters to choose a party affiliation to get around the "system".

County council offices should be nonpartisan and public financing should be limited to nonpartisan offices or elections with open primaries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More like term-limited by politicians who otherwise couldn't keep him out of office because his constituents kept voting him in. Many at the polls don't make the connection between an abstract idea, like term limits, and the effect, like term-limiting the County Executive position without grandfathering in prior periods of service meaning that the candidates for that office at the next election may well be less desirable than the incumbent one had preferred to that point.

Honestly, the way the prior post is written, "term-limited by his constituents" sounds like a shill for Friedson, trying to cast a shade at his opponent, Jawando, whom Elrich decided to support, instead.

No. 68% of the voters in the county approved that referendum to kick him out after two terms. 68%


Elrich historically only wins by a tiny plurality. That's why we need rank choice voting so these crappy primaries give us what the people truly want.

404,000 registered democrats in MoCo in 2022.
143,000 voted in 2022 primary.
55,000 voted for Elrich.

People don't like Elrich.
The system does.

Those who are registered unaffiliated (independent) and actually care about who runs this county, need to switch to Democrat for the primary and vote.

+1 that's what I did. If you are not registered as a Dem in this county, your vote is a throw away.

25% of all registered voters in MoCo have no party affiliation, including myself. We need open primaries, not for such a large group of voters to choose a party affiliation to get around the "system".

You can fight for open primaries (at state level, nobody can do it here) and still register Democrat this election to have some say in local government. Failure to act is the same as not voting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Technically, he can't run with others as a slate because he is using public campaign financing. But Debbie Spielberg is running in district 1, and she is his long-time employee. Both when he was at council and for his entire term as executive. He definitely wants her to win.

Don't know about the others but my guess would be Izola Shaw for district 3 and Josie Caballero at large.

What is Josie Caballero's experience to recommend her for the county council? I have not heard of her previously.

I don't know. She seems nice but she's DSA and that's not my preferred approach to governance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The developers seem to already be out in full force already in this thread. Let's be clear: lots of people support term limits regardless of which candidate it affects. I enthusiastically support Elrich, but I think two terms is enough for anyone. Just think about it: tons of people like their Congressperson but think Congress needs term limits. Same idea. Just because you like a candidate, that doesn't mean you believe they are entitled to hold an office forever.

The developers have a tough time understanding this concept because their hatred of Elrich runs so deep and so they think everyone else must hate him also. But the truth is that developers are truly reviled by the majority of voters, and Elrich is very popular. He easily would have won a third term, which is why the developers put forth the term limits idea.

Um, people care about a lot of different issues. Not just housing. You are the only monomaniacal poster here.

+1. I have plenty of progressive friends who revile Elrich. Apart from his track record on affordable housing, he also has a history of being needlessly combative with other local elected officials, almost all of whom belong to his party. With Trump in the White House, now is the time for unity, not petty infighting, in the Democratic Party.

-1

I have plenty of progressive friends who like Elrich a lot. He actually did a great job reigning in the superintendent's irrational capital budget for new schools.

- -1 (so +1)? Of course there are progressives who like Elrich a lot. His relationship with unions is pretty baller, for example. However, there are many progressives who realize his leadership is not helpful for the cause and that he cares more about building data centers than affordable housing. Those priorities are seriously off.

That man inflated the capital budget costs by 5% or more by insisting on "Net Zero," because he's so environmentally conscious. Yet he wants data centers here? How damaging to the environment can you get?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More like term-limited by politicians who otherwise couldn't keep him out of office because his constituents kept voting him in. Many at the polls don't make the connection between an abstract idea, like term limits, and the effect, like term-limiting the County Executive position without grandfathering in prior periods of service meaning that the candidates for that office at the next election may well be less desirable than the incumbent one had preferred to that point.

Honestly, the way the prior post is written, "term-limited by his constituents" sounds like a shill for Friedson, trying to cast a shade at his opponent, Jawando, whom Elrich decided to support, instead.

No. 68% of the voters in the county approved that referendum to kick him out after two terms. 68%


Elrich historically only wins by a tiny plurality. That's why we need rank choice voting so these crappy primaries give us what the people truly want.

404,000 registered democrats in MoCo in 2022.
143,000 voted in 2022 primary.
55,000 voted for Elrich.

People don't like Elrich.
The system does.

Those who are registered unaffiliated (independent) and actually care about who runs this county, need to switch to Democrat for the primary and vote.

+1 that's what I did. If you are not registered as a Dem in this county, your vote is a throw away.

25% of all registered voters in MoCo have no party affiliation, including myself. We need open primaries, not for such a large group of voters to choose a party affiliation to get around the "system".

Open primaries - that is a system that I wish would gain favor here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More like term-limited by politicians who otherwise couldn't keep him out of office because his constituents kept voting him in. Many at the polls don't make the connection between an abstract idea, like term limits, and the effect, like term-limiting the County Executive position without grandfathering in prior periods of service meaning that the candidates for that office at the next election may well be less desirable than the incumbent one had preferred to that point.

Honestly, the way the prior post is written, "term-limited by his constituents" sounds like a shill for Friedson, trying to cast a shade at his opponent, Jawando, whom Elrich decided to support, instead.

No. 68% of the voters in the county approved that referendum to kick him out after two terms. 68%


Elrich historically only wins by a tiny plurality. That's why we need rank choice voting so these crappy primaries give us what the people truly want.

404,000 registered democrats in MoCo in 2022.
143,000 voted in 2022 primary.
55,000 voted for Elrich.

People don't like Elrich.
The system does.

Those who are registered unaffiliated (independent) and actually care about who runs this county, need to switch to Democrat for the primary and vote.

+1 that's what I did. If you are not registered as a Dem in this county, your vote is a throw away.

25% of all registered voters in MoCo have no party affiliation, including myself. We need open primaries, not for such a large group of voters to choose a party affiliation to get around the "system".

Open primaries - that is a system that I wish would gain favor here.

That will never happen with a party that just appoints its way out of special elections after seats are vacated mid-term.

[Anonymous]

To answer OP's question, in part, I know that Debbie Spielberg, who is running in District 1, is currently a "special aide" (or some similar job title) to Elrich. However looks like Julie Yang probably has District 1 wrapped up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More like term-limited by politicians who otherwise couldn't keep him out of office because his constituents kept voting him in. Many at the polls don't make the connection between an abstract idea, like term limits, and the effect, like term-limiting the County Executive position without grandfathering in prior periods of service meaning that the candidates for that office at the next election may well be less desirable than the incumbent one had preferred to that point.

Honestly, the way the prior post is written, "term-limited by his constituents" sounds like a shill for Friedson, trying to cast a shade at his opponent, Jawando, whom Elrich decided to support, instead.

No. 68% of the voters in the county approved that referendum to kick him out after two terms. 68%


Elrich historically only wins by a tiny plurality. That's why we need rank choice voting so these crappy primaries give us what the people truly want.

404,000 registered democrats in MoCo in 2022.
143,000 voted in 2022 primary.
55,000 voted for Elrich.

People don't like Elrich.
The system does.

Those who are registered unaffiliated (independent) and actually care about who runs this county, need to switch to Democrat for the primary and vote.

+1 that's what I did. If you are not registered as a Dem in this county, your vote is a throw away.

25% of all registered voters in MoCo have no party affiliation, including myself. We need open primaries, not for such a large group of voters to choose a party affiliation to get around the "system".

You can fight for open primaries (at state level, nobody can do it here) and still register Democrat this election to have some say in local government. Failure to act is the same as not voting.

Party primary importance is an artifice of the two-party political duopoly which stifles thought, institutionalizes accriual of power to the few (amd typically wealthy) and steers things toward the extremes. There should not be public funding for such primaries, and "not voting" should only matter in a general election.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To answer OP's question, in part, I know that Debbie Spielberg, who is running in District 1, is currently a "special aide" (or some similar job title) to Elrich. However looks like Julie Yang probably has District 1 wrapped up.

Let's hope not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More like term-limited by politicians who otherwise couldn't keep him out of office because his constituents kept voting him in. Many at the polls don't make the connection between an abstract idea, like term limits, and the effect, like term-limiting the County Executive position without grandfathering in prior periods of service meaning that the candidates for that office at the next election may well be less desirable than the incumbent one had preferred to that point.

Honestly, the way the prior post is written, "term-limited by his constituents" sounds like a shill for Friedson, trying to cast a shade at his opponent, Jawando, whom Elrich decided to support, instead.

No. 68% of the voters in the county approved that referendum to kick him out after two terms. 68%


Elrich historically only wins by a tiny plurality. That's why we need rank choice voting so these crappy primaries give us what the people truly want.

404,000 registered democrats in MoCo in 2022.
143,000 voted in 2022 primary.
55,000 voted for Elrich.

People don't like Elrich.
The system does.

Those who are registered unaffiliated (independent) and actually care about who runs this county, need to switch to Democrat for the primary and vote.

Maryland voting totaled more than 50% of those eligible in exactly one non-presidential general[i] election since the turn of the century. Getting over a third of the constituency to vote in the 2022 [i]primary likely is pretty high in relation to comparable years. And I would not be surprised if there was disproportionate representation among those voters of those supporting the challengers (when compared to the whole body of registered Dems), as they tended to represent more concentrated interests of the moment.

Still, fewer voted for David Blair. Many, many fewer voted for Hans Reimer. Elrich had 20+ times as many vote for him as voted for Peter James. People didn't like what they represented.

I think ranked-choice instant-runoff until a majority is reached would be good (and better as open, if that election mechanism was supported with public resources), but I bet that majority would have accrued to Elrich.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More like term-limited by politicians who otherwise couldn't keep him out of office because his constituents kept voting him in. Many at the polls don't make the connection between an abstract idea, like term limits, and the effect, like term-limiting the County Executive position without grandfathering in prior periods of service meaning that the candidates for that office at the next election may well be less desirable than the incumbent one had preferred to that point.

Honestly, the way the prior post is written, "term-limited by his constituents" sounds like a shill for Friedson, trying to cast a shade at his opponent, Jawando, whom Elrich decided to support, instead.

Can you answer the question instead of virtue signaling?

Maybe ask the question without virtue-signaling?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The developers seem to already be out in full force already in this thread. Let's be clear: lots of people support term limits regardless of which candidate it affects. I enthusiastically support Elrich, but I think two terms is enough for anyone. Just think about it: tons of people like their Congressperson but think Congress needs term limits. Same idea. Just because you like a candidate, that doesn't mean you believe they are entitled to hold an office forever.

The developers have a tough time understanding this concept because their hatred of Elrich runs so deep and so they think everyone else must hate him also. But the truth is that developers are truly reviled by the majority of voters, and Elrich is very popular. He easily would have won a third term, which is why the developers put forth the term limits idea.

Um, people care about a lot of different issues. Not just housing. You are the only monomaniacal poster here.

+1. I have plenty of progressive friends who revile Elrich. Apart from his track record on affordable housing, he also has a history of being needlessly combative with other local elected officials, almost all of whom belong to his party. With Trump in the White House, now is the time for unity, not petty infighting, in the Democratic Party.

-1

I have plenty of progressive friends who like Elrich a lot. He actually did a great job reigning in the superintendent's irrational capital budget for new schools.

- -1 (so +1)? Of course there are progressives who like Elrich a lot. His relationship with unions is pretty baller, for example. However, there are many progressives who realize his leadership is not helpful for the cause and that he cares more about building data centers than affordable housing. Those priorities are seriously off.

The data centers would pay a lot of property tax and not consume many county services. That would give the county more money to build things such as affordable housing. I agree that we need to pause allowing new data centers for a year or two until we come up with good rules for them but I can also see their appeal from a budget standpoint.

Data centers use excessive amounts of water, seriously overload electrical grids, and heat the ground - in short, they are an environmental disaster. And these consequences will cost the county, a lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To answer OP's question, in part, I know that Debbie Spielberg, who is running in District 1, is currently a "special aide" (or some similar job title) to Elrich. However looks like Julie Yang probably has District 1 wrapped up.

Let's hope not.

What's wrong with Yang? I don't know anything about her, but every time I drive through district 1, there are Yang yard signs everywhere.

[Anonymous]

At this point it looks like Friedson needs to put together a slate just to stay relevant.