Unpaid Tickets from Non-DC Drivers

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hello Karens!

You know the vast majority of out of state drivers pay their tickets, right? We have oodles of data on who gets tickets and who pays them. You can obsess about some random guy, but you should recognize that you're obsessing about a statistical outlier.

41 percent of tickets go to Maryland drivers, and 38 percent of tickets paid are paid by Marylanders. Virginians are worse. They get 27 percent of the tickets and pay 18 percent of the traffic fines.

The people who pay the least are the ones from outside the DMV, i.e. tourists.

We're not talking about people who pay their tickets. The people who are issued tickets and pay them are responsible citizens.

We are talking about the people who do NOT pay their tickets. Those people tend to not be responsible and thus, are not responsible drivers.

No one is obsessing over some random housewife from Chevy Chase or a "random dude from Bowie" who got caught speeding one time and paid her ticket. We're saying that habitual offenders, who continue to ignore tickets and continue to drive poorly, need to face some kind of consequence.


The number of people who don't pay their tickets is very small, and there can be a whole constellation of reasons why they haven't paid that have nothing to do with how they happen to drive.


Tickets in DC are crazy expensive, and they grow quickly if you don't pay right away. The costs, especailly when collections start getting involved, can snowball really fast and that probably deters a lot of people from paying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP's post is inaccurate -- it's three tickets totaling $760:

One for 11-15 over the speed limit
One for 16-20 over the speed limit
One stop sign violation

Even if there was an effort to impound vehicles or take away licenses, this person would never be a priority.

It's not inaccurate. She said it's nearly a thousand dollars of tickets related to moving violations. $760 is nearly a thousand dollars and those are all moving violations.


I agree with this poster. The tickets themselves were probably less than 150 each. There’s a total of 3.
The rest are fines for non payment.

Per the reddit poster who found them and posted a pic, they are:

11/29/2025 - Speeding 11-15 Over Limit - $200

10/25/2025 - Running Stop Sign - $200

07/24/2025 - Speeding 16-20 Over Limit - $360


Only three tickets? This probably puts this driver in the top 10% best drivers in DC.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you guys also go through court records in search of people who've been arrested 40 times? And then worry that maybe you'll be their next victim? Like, maybe tomorrow they'll show up at your house and rob you?

I mean, yeah, if someone's been arrested 40 times, I would wonder why they hadn't faced serious consequences yet.


Are you serious? Do you even live in DC? They don't prosecute anyone for anything. The *average* murder suspect has previously been arrested 11 times.

Yes, I am serious. I do live in DC and I have a problem with how we handle crime in this city, as do many people. Step out of your bubble and talk to people.


And yet you will surely vote for Janeese for mayor. They don't make 'em any softer on crime than JLG.

LOL. You are such an a hole. You know nothing about how I vote, but I assure you, I will not be voting for JLG for mayor. I would write my cat in before I voted for her.

I recently switched my party affiliation to Democrat so I could sign petitions to get moderate Democrats on the ballot. I already signed one for Gary Goodweather and Hope Solomon, so hopefully one of them has a chance, otherwise we're cooked.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hello Karens!

You know the vast majority of out of state drivers pay their tickets, right? We have oodles of data on who gets tickets and who pays them. You can obsess about some random guy, but you should recognize that you're obsessing about a statistical outlier.

41 percent of tickets go to Maryland drivers, and 38 percent of tickets paid are paid by Marylanders. Virginians are worse. They get 27 percent of the tickets and pay 18 percent of the traffic fines.

The people who pay the least are the ones from outside the DMV, i.e. tourists.

We're not talking about people who pay their tickets. The people who are issued tickets and pay them are responsible citizens.

We are talking about the people who do NOT pay their tickets. Those people tend to not be responsible and thus, are not responsible drivers.

No one is obsessing over some random housewife from Chevy Chase or a "random dude from Bowie" who got caught speeding one time and paid her ticket. We're saying that habitual offenders, who continue to ignore tickets and continue to drive poorly, need to face some kind of consequence.


The number of people who don't pay their tickets is very small, and there can be a whole constellation of reasons why they haven't paid that have nothing to do with how they happen to drive.


Tickets in DC are crazy expensive, and they grow quickly if you don't pay right away. The costs, especailly when collections start getting involved, can snowball really fast and that probably deters a lot of people from paying.

What collections? The person who hit the bus at Ambar this morning has a ticket from July. It's April. Clearly no collection effort has been made.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hello Karens!

You know the vast majority of out of state drivers pay their tickets, right? We have oodles of data on who gets tickets and who pays them. You can obsess about some random guy, but you should recognize that you're obsessing about a statistical outlier.

41 percent of tickets go to Maryland drivers, and 38 percent of tickets paid are paid by Marylanders. Virginians are worse. They get 27 percent of the tickets and pay 18 percent of the traffic fines.

The people who pay the least are the ones from outside the DMV, i.e. tourists.

We're not talking about people who pay their tickets. The people who are issued tickets and pay them are responsible citizens.

We are talking about the people who do NOT pay their tickets. Those people tend to not be responsible and thus, are not responsible drivers.

No one is obsessing over some random housewife from Chevy Chase or a "random dude from Bowie" who got caught speeding one time and paid her ticket. We're saying that habitual offenders, who continue to ignore tickets and continue to drive poorly, need to face some kind of consequence.


The number of people who don't pay their tickets is very small, and there can be a whole constellation of reasons why they haven't paid that have nothing to do with how they happen to drive.


Tickets in DC are crazy expensive, and they grow quickly if you don't pay right away. The costs, especailly when collections start getting involved, can snowball really fast and that probably deters a lot of people from paying.

What collections? The person who hit the bus at Ambar this morning has a ticket from July. It's April. Clearly no collection effort has been made.


Have you ever gotten a traffic ticket? It does not take long before collections starting calling you. This idea that DC doesn't care if people don't pay your tickets is complete bullshit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don't need a driver's license to drive. They aren't going to lock someone up in Fairfax County, Arlington, or Alexandria for unpaid tickets.

I don't expect them to lock people up. Start with suspending licenses and since you're right, these people will continue to drive with a suspended license, move on to booting or impounding the cars.


So your solution to scofflaw drivers is to … suspend their license?

Yes, that will surely fix things. Perhaps a sternly worded letter as well?


A strongly worded letter is what we need.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hello Karens!

You know the vast majority of out of state drivers pay their tickets, right? We have oodles of data on who gets tickets and who pays them. You can obsess about some random guy, but you should recognize that you're obsessing about a statistical outlier.

41 percent of tickets go to Maryland drivers, and 38 percent of tickets paid are paid by Marylanders. Virginians are worse. They get 27 percent of the tickets and pay 18 percent of the traffic fines.

The people who pay the least are the ones from outside the DMV, i.e. tourists.

We're not talking about people who pay their tickets. The people who are issued tickets and pay them are responsible citizens.

We are talking about the people who do NOT pay their tickets. Those people tend to not be responsible and thus, are not responsible drivers.

No one is obsessing over some random housewife from Chevy Chase or a "random dude from Bowie" who got caught speeding one time and paid her ticket. We're saying that habitual offenders, who continue to ignore tickets and continue to drive poorly, need to face some kind of consequence.


The number of people who don't pay their tickets is very small, and there can be a whole constellation of reasons why they haven't paid that have nothing to do with how they happen to drive.


Tickets in DC are crazy expensive, and they grow quickly if you don't pay right away. The costs, especailly when collections start getting involved, can snowball really fast and that probably deters a lot of people from paying.

What collections? The person who hit the bus at Ambar this morning has a ticket from July. It's April. Clearly no collection effort has been made.


Have you ever gotten a traffic ticket? It does not take long before collections starting calling you. This idea that DC doesn't care if people don't pay your tickets is complete bullshit.

I have gotten a traffic ticket. Collections never called bc I paid it before the due date. Hope this helps.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP's post is inaccurate -- it's three tickets totaling $760:

One for 11-15 over the speed limit
One for 16-20 over the speed limit
One stop sign violation

Even if there was an effort to impound vehicles or take away licenses, this person would never be a priority.

It's not inaccurate. She said it's nearly a thousand dollars of tickets related to moving violations. $760 is nearly a thousand dollars and those are all moving violations.


I agree with this poster. The tickets themselves were probably less than 150 each. There’s a total of 3.
The rest are fines for non payment.

Per the reddit poster who found them and posted a pic, they are:

11/29/2025 - Speeding 11-15 Over Limit - $200

10/25/2025 - Running Stop Sign - $200

07/24/2025 - Speeding 16-20 Over Limit - $360


Virginia isn't going to lock up someone for that. You might need to retake the written exam. It's super easy to pass. I think you need a 85%.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP's post is inaccurate -- it's three tickets totaling $760:

One for 11-15 over the speed limit
One for 16-20 over the speed limit
One stop sign violation

Even if there was an effort to impound vehicles or take away licenses, this person would never be a priority.

It's not inaccurate. She said it's nearly a thousand dollars of tickets related to moving violations. $760 is nearly a thousand dollars and those are all moving violations.


I agree with this poster. The tickets themselves were probably less than 150 each. There’s a total of 3.
The rest are fines for non payment.

Per the reddit poster who found them and posted a pic, they are:

11/29/2025 - Speeding 11-15 Over Limit - $200

10/25/2025 - Running Stop Sign - $200

07/24/2025 - Speeding 16-20 Over Limit - $360


Virginia isn't going to lock up someone for that. You might need to retake the written exam. It's super easy to pass. I think you need a 85%.

Why does everyone think we want people locked up? Even OP has said she doesn't want to see people sent to jail for this.

And the driver isn't from Virginia. They're Maryland plates. Not sure why everyone keeps citing Virginia.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP's post is inaccurate -- it's three tickets totaling $760:

One for 11-15 over the speed limit
One for 16-20 over the speed limit
One stop sign violation

Even if there was an effort to impound vehicles or take away licenses, this person would never be a priority.

It's not inaccurate. She said it's nearly a thousand dollars of tickets related to moving violations. $760 is nearly a thousand dollars and those are all moving violations.


I agree with this poster. The tickets themselves were probably less than 150 each. There’s a total of 3.
The rest are fines for non payment.

Per the reddit poster who found them and posted a pic, they are:

11/29/2025 - Speeding 11-15 Over Limit - $200

10/25/2025 - Running Stop Sign - $200

07/24/2025 - Speeding 16-20 Over Limit - $360


Virginia isn't going to lock up someone for that. You might need to retake the written exam. It's super easy to pass. I think you need a 85%.

Why does everyone think we want people locked up? Even OP has said she doesn't want to see people sent to jail for this.

And the driver isn't from Virginia. They're Maryland plates. Not sure why everyone keeps citing Virginia.


Probably because two-thirds of the drivers with the most outstanding tickets in DC are from Virginia, so we need to get Virginia drivers under control.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hello Karens!

You know the vast majority of out of state drivers pay their tickets, right? We have oodles of data on who gets tickets and who pays them. You can obsess about some random guy, but you should recognize that you're obsessing about a statistical outlier.

41 percent of tickets go to Maryland drivers, and 38 percent of tickets paid are paid by Marylanders. Virginians are worse. They get 27 percent of the tickets and pay 18 percent of the traffic fines.

The people who pay the least are the ones from outside the DMV, i.e. tourists.

We're not talking about people who pay their tickets. The people who are issued tickets and pay them are responsible citizens.

We are talking about the people who do NOT pay their tickets. Those people tend to not be responsible and thus, are not responsible drivers.

No one is obsessing over some random housewife from Chevy Chase or a "random dude from Bowie" who got caught speeding one time and paid her ticket. We're saying that habitual offenders, who continue to ignore tickets and continue to drive poorly, need to face some kind of consequence.


The number of people who don't pay their tickets is very small, and there can be a whole constellation of reasons why they haven't paid that have nothing to do with how they happen to drive.


Tickets in DC are crazy expensive, and they grow quickly if you don't pay right away. The costs, especailly when collections start getting involved, can snowball really fast and that probably deters a lot of people from paying.

What collections? The person who hit the bus at Ambar this morning has a ticket from July. It's April. Clearly no collection effort has been made.


Have you ever gotten a traffic ticket? It does not take long before collections starting calling you. This idea that DC doesn't care if people don't pay your tickets is complete bullshit.

I have gotten a traffic ticket. Collections never called bc I paid it before the due date. Hope this helps.


Thank you for sharing your non-relevant anecdote. Get a ticket. Don't pay it. You will see the collections process is real.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP's post is inaccurate -- it's three tickets totaling $760:

One for 11-15 over the speed limit
One for 16-20 over the speed limit
One stop sign violation

Even if there was an effort to impound vehicles or take away licenses, this person would never be a priority.

It's not inaccurate. She said it's nearly a thousand dollars of tickets related to moving violations. $760 is nearly a thousand dollars and those are all moving violations.


I agree with this poster. The tickets themselves were probably less than 150 each. There’s a total of 3.
The rest are fines for non payment.

Per the reddit poster who found them and posted a pic, they are:

11/29/2025 - Speeding 11-15 Over Limit - $200

10/25/2025 - Running Stop Sign - $200

07/24/2025 - Speeding 16-20 Over Limit - $360


Virginia isn't going to lock up someone for that. You might need to retake the written exam. It's super easy to pass. I think you need a 85%.

Why does everyone think we want people locked up? Even OP has said she doesn't want to see people sent to jail for this.

And the driver isn't from Virginia. They're Maryland plates. Not sure why everyone keeps citing Virginia.


Probably because two-thirds of the drivers with the most outstanding tickets in DC are from Virginia, so we need to get Virginia drivers under control.


Keep in mind a fair number of the Virginia tags were likely owned by people who live in Maryland. The post ran a story about that the other day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hello Karens!

You know the vast majority of out of state drivers pay their tickets, right? We have oodles of data on who gets tickets and who pays them. You can obsess about some random guy, but you should recognize that you're obsessing about a statistical outlier.

41 percent of tickets go to Maryland drivers, and 38 percent of tickets paid are paid by Marylanders. Virginians are worse. They get 27 percent of the tickets and pay 18 percent of the traffic fines.

The people who pay the least are the ones from outside the DMV, i.e. tourists.

We're not talking about people who pay their tickets. The people who are issued tickets and pay them are responsible citizens.

We are talking about the people who do NOT pay their tickets. Those people tend to not be responsible and thus, are not responsible drivers.

No one is obsessing over some random housewife from Chevy Chase or a "random dude from Bowie" who got caught speeding one time and paid her ticket. We're saying that habitual offenders, who continue to ignore tickets and continue to drive poorly, need to face some kind of consequence.


The number of people who don't pay their tickets is very small, and there can be a whole constellation of reasons why they haven't paid that have nothing to do with how they happen to drive.


Tickets in DC are crazy expensive, and they grow quickly if you don't pay right away. The costs, especailly when collections start getting involved, can snowball really fast and that probably deters a lot of people from paying.


This is probably a big factor. DC tickets are obscenely expensive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hello Karens!

You know the vast majority of out of state drivers pay their tickets, right? We have oodles of data on who gets tickets and who pays them. You can obsess about some random guy, but you should recognize that you're obsessing about a statistical outlier.

41 percent of tickets go to Maryland drivers, and 38 percent of tickets paid are paid by Marylanders. Virginians are worse. They get 27 percent of the tickets and pay 18 percent of the traffic fines.

The people who pay the least are the ones from outside the DMV, i.e. tourists.

We're not talking about people who pay their tickets. The people who are issued tickets and pay them are responsible citizens.

We are talking about the people who do NOT pay their tickets. Those people tend to not be responsible and thus, are not responsible drivers.

No one is obsessing over some random housewife from Chevy Chase or a "random dude from Bowie" who got caught speeding one time and paid her ticket. We're saying that habitual offenders, who continue to ignore tickets and continue to drive poorly, need to face some kind of consequence.


The number of people who don't pay their tickets is very small, and there can be a whole constellation of reasons why they haven't paid that have nothing to do with how they happen to drive.


Tickets in DC are crazy expensive, and they grow quickly if you don't pay right away. The costs, especailly when collections start getting involved, can snowball really fast and that probably deters a lot of people from paying.


This is probably a big factor. DC tickets are obscenely expensive.



"Advocates for changing the District’s system of fees and fines say the disparities show that the city’s ticketing and traffic enforcement policies not only target Black drivers but criminalize poverty. When a person in the District cannot pay their infractions, the amounts double. The city can then put a hold on license and vehicle renewals and registrations before calling on debt collection agencies that tack on additional surcharges to capture overdue fines. The result over time becomes a financial and bureaucratic black hole where people like Scott lose their vehicles and jobs, making it that much more difficult to crawl out of debt."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/08/06/dc-traffic-parking-tickets-black-neighborhoods/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP's post is inaccurate -- it's three tickets totaling $760:

One for 11-15 over the speed limit
One for 16-20 over the speed limit
One stop sign violation

Even if there was an effort to impound vehicles or take away licenses, this person would never be a priority.

It's not inaccurate. She said it's nearly a thousand dollars of tickets related to moving violations. $760 is nearly a thousand dollars and those are all moving violations.


I agree with this poster. The tickets themselves were probably less than 150 each. There’s a total of 3.
The rest are fines for non payment.

Per the reddit poster who found them and posted a pic, they are:

11/29/2025 - Speeding 11-15 Over Limit - $200

10/25/2025 - Running Stop Sign - $200

07/24/2025 - Speeding 16-20 Over Limit - $360


Virginia isn't going to lock up someone for that. You might need to retake the written exam. It's super easy to pass. I think you need a 85%.

Why does everyone think we want people locked up? Even OP has said she doesn't want to see people sent to jail for this.

And the driver isn't from Virginia. They're Maryland plates. Not sure why everyone keeps citing Virginia.


Probably because two-thirds of the drivers with the most outstanding tickets in DC are from Virginia, so we need to get Virginia drivers under control.


Keep in mind a fair number of the Virginia tags were likely owned by people who live in Maryland. The post ran a story about that the other day.


Sorry, I don't buy it. It actually works the opposite way, where VA drivers often try to dodge the car tax by registering their cars in MD.
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