More All-Affordable Housing for Marshall.

[Anonymous]

By affordable housing do they mean the kind that was build near the Wharf in SW DC? $4000+ for a two BR. The revitalization of that area was supposed to include affordable housing. It doesn't.
And also, McLean and Longfellow have been overcrowded for at least 20 years. Why do kids ride the bus right past Langley to the other side of McLean to go to MHS? They were redistricted to McLean in 1984.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:By affordable housing do they mean the kind that was build near the Wharf in SW DC? $4000+ for a two BR. The revitalization of that area was supposed to include affordable housing. It doesn't.
And also, McLean and Longfellow have been overcrowded for at least 20 years. Why do kids ride the bus right past Langley to the other side of McLean to go to MHS? They were redistricted to McLean in 1984.

The affordable housing in the two projects (Exchange at Spring Hill and Somos) going up in the Marshall district is 100% income-restricted. Only those with incomes ranging from 30 to 70% of the area median income will be eligible.

Your claims about McLean/Longfellow seem off. McLean has been overcrowded, but not Longfellow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The demographics at Marshall are slowly changing. Move a few high income kids, move a few low income kids in and no one complains. Move a few more, no one complains. Repeat. Then 10 years from now people will be saying how they remember when Marshall was a decent school; and too bad how it has changed. It is an IB school, so I assume FCPS assumes it it is destined for the toilet.

But won’t the ongoing transition of Pimmit Hills from its rough, working class past into a more-or-less posh neighborhood with expensive homes balance all that out demographically?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By affordable housing do they mean the kind that was build near the Wharf in SW DC? $4000+ for a two BR. The revitalization of that area was supposed to include affordable housing. It doesn't.
And also, McLean and Longfellow have been overcrowded for at least 20 years. Why do kids ride the bus right past Langley to the other side of McLean to go to MHS? They were redistricted to McLean in 1984.

The affordable housing in the two projects (Exchange at Spring Hill and Somos) going up in the Marshall district is 100% income-restricted. Only those with incomes ranging from 30 to 70% of the area median income will be eligible.

Your claims about McLean/Longfellow seem off. McLean has been overcrowded, but not Longfellow.

My apologies - Longfellow may not be over capacity now since AAP kids are no longer shipped there instead of Cooper. However, it was over capacity for a number of years. Including the day the renovation was completed which I'm now realizing was about 15 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The demographics at Marshall are slowly changing. Move a few high income kids, move a few low income kids in and no one complains. Move a few more, no one complains. Repeat. Then 10 years from now people will be saying how they remember when Marshall was a decent school; and too bad how it has changed. It is an IB school, so I assume FCPS assumes it it is destined for the toilet.

But won’t the ongoing transition of Pimmit Hills from its rough, working class past into a more-or-less posh neighborhood with expensive homes balance all that out demographically?

It will slightly offset it but not balance out what FCPS and the county are doing to GCM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The demographics at Marshall are slowly changing. Move a few high income kids, move a few low income kids in and no one complains. Move a few more, no one complains. Repeat. Then 10 years from now people will be saying how they remember when Marshall was a decent school; and too bad how it has changed. It is an IB school, so I assume FCPS assumes it it is destined for the toilet.

But won’t the ongoing transition of Pimmit Hills from its rough, working class past into a more-or-less posh neighborhood with expensive homes balance all that out demographically?

It will slightly offset it but not balance out what FCPS and the county are doing to GCM.

That's a shame. The older parents here remember what Marshall was like in the 1990s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The demographics at Marshall are slowly changing. Move a few high income kids, move a few low income kids in and no one complains. Move a few more, no one complains. Repeat. Then 10 years from now people will be saying how they remember when Marshall was a decent school; and too bad how it has changed. It is an IB school, so I assume FCPS assumes it it is destined for the toilet.

But won’t the ongoing transition of Pimmit Hills from its rough, working class past into a more-or-less posh neighborhood with expensive homes balance all that out demographically?

It will not. Those people will send their kids to private school as low-income percentage increases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The largest 100% affordable housing complex being built in the county right now is The Exchange at Spring Hill Station (Westbriar/Kilmer/Marshall), followed by the Indigo at McLean Station (Westgate/Kilmer/Marshall).

The county is budgeting over $45 million to build a new Tysons Community Center that will be situated at the Exchange low-income project. For that amount of money they could have easily expanded Kilmer MS, and not cannibalized the Marshall pyramid.

If you don’t want the affordable housing clustered in one area, then you have to support better public transportation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The largest 100% affordable housing complex being built in the county right now is The Exchange at Spring Hill Station (Westbriar/Kilmer/Marshall), followed by the Indigo at McLean Station (Westgate/Kilmer/Marshall).

The county is budgeting over $45 million to build a new Tysons Community Center that will be situated at the Exchange low-income project. For that amount of money they could have easily expanded Kilmer MS, and not cannibalized the Marshall pyramid.

If you don’t want the affordable housing clustered in one area, then you have to support better public transportation.

No don’t advocate for more public transportation. It will be used an excuse to upzone your neighborhood to super high density development later. It’s a trap.

[Anonymous]

Marshall has never been an affluent zone , it is maybe by accident because of people seeking out close in housing from being priced out of McLean and langley but not be zoning designation. It should go back to its middle to low class income roots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The largest 100% affordable housing complex being built in the county right now is The Exchange at Spring Hill Station (Westbriar/Kilmer/Marshall), followed by the Indigo at McLean Station (Westgate/Kilmer/Marshall).

The county is budgeting over $45 million to build a new Tysons Community Center that will be situated at the Exchange low-income project. For that amount of money they could have easily expanded Kilmer MS, and not cannibalized the Marshall pyramid.

If you don’t want the affordable housing clustered in one area, then you have to support better public transportation.

Thanks, pompous public policy guru.

There are areas near Metro stations in Tysons zoned now to Marshall, McLean, and Langley. The area near the Vienna Metro station feeds to Madison and Oakton.

But they put all the new 100% affordable housing complexes in the Marshall zone, even though it already has more poverty than the other four schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you all hate poor people so much?

No one here has said anything hateful.

No one wants to deal with the quality of life issues associated with lower income households, and anyone claiming otherwise is either naive or lying.

NIMBY much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you all hate poor people so much?

No one here has said anything hateful.

No one wants to deal with the quality of life issues associated with lower income households, and anyone claiming otherwise is either naive or lying.

NIMBY much?

DP. NIMBY is understandable when YIMBY is really YIYBY: “Yes In Your Back Yard” (not the politicians’ back yards).

They are ripping up Marshall by moving wealthy kids to Madison, creating a stranded Kilmer/Marshall attendance island, and loading Marshall up with low-income units.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you all hate poor people so much?

No one here has said anything hateful.

No one wants to deal with the quality of life issues associated with lower income households, and anyone claiming otherwise is either naive or lying.

NIMBY much?

DP. NIMBY is understandable when YIMBY is really YIYBY: “Yes In Your Back Yard” (not the politicians’ back yards).

They are ripping up Marshall by moving wealthy kids to Madison, creating a stranded Kilmer/Marshall attendance island, and loading Marshall up with low-income units.

I think the Marshall parents were distracted by the potential rezoning of the townhouses next to Marshall to McLean--an insane boundary proposal--and after that battle, they were simply too tired to launch another effort to keep the upper income kids at Marshall.

I don't think Marshall will become like Annandale overnight, but I am shocked and surprised that the FCPS officials and board members conveniently forgot what happens when upper income areas are rezoned from less affluent schools to neighboring affluent schools. There's at least two current school board members that voted for the Annandale boundaries years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you all hate poor people so much?

No one here has said anything hateful.

No one wants to deal with the quality of life issues associated with lower income households, and anyone claiming otherwise is either naive or lying.

NIMBY much?

DP. NIMBY is understandable when YIMBY is really YIYBY: “Yes In Your Back Yard” (not the politicians’ back yards).

They are ripping up Marshall by moving wealthy kids to Madison, creating a stranded Kilmer/Marshall attendance island, and loading Marshall up with low-income units.

I think the Marshall parents were distracted by the potential rezoning of the townhouses next to Marshall to McLean--an insane boundary proposal--and after that battle, they were simply too tired to launch another effort to keep the upper income kids at Marshall.

I don't think Marshall will become like Annandale overnight, but I am shocked and surprised that the FCPS officials and board members conveniently forgot what happens when upper income areas are rezoned from less affluent schools to neighboring affluent schools. There's at least two current school board members that voted for the Annandale boundaries years ago.

The two parents representing Marshall on BRAC are both from Westbriar. Notice that Tysons Green, the primary SFH neighborhood in Westbriar is actively trying to abandon ship. It would be nice for Marshall to have reps on both sides of the Beltway to advocate for its boundaries.