DD 17 reading inappropriate stories during computer science

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Anonymous wrote:My teen daughter has always read in class, and there was a time when she was reading young adult novels on her chromebook that by her own admission were pretty trashy - but at least they were published works. It took years for me to persuade her (and perhaps the exhaustion of most YA crap on Sora, her school's online library), but this year she's finally reading classics, and I am so happy.

So there's hope, OP. Talk her into some classics.

OP here. How should I do this? I just don’t know to bridge the gap between fan fick and Tolstoy!


I'm a grownup and I went through a three year fan fiction phase. A lot of it is written by bored women in their 20s who are quite literate. Some of the fanfics I read have since been transformed into novels published by major publishers. Or their authors got contracts to write original fiction.

Two examples are Olivie Blake and Ali Hazelwood.

Most of these fics are not worse than the stamped out Harlequin romance novels and Judith Krantz novels of my middle school years. Consistent with the training of today's young people, a lot of them are full of "consent is sexy" language that really sticks out to me as an older reader.

I'm actually a bit suspicious that OP is faking being a parent. Because it should be obvious that fic is short for fiction. But I'm happy to share my POV on fanfics anyway.

The reason these are likely chosen is that there's an endless surfable supply on the Internet that only requires browser access. Nothing needs to be downloaded.

OP here, thank you. This is reassuring. About the “fic” mix up, please keep in mind that my first language is German, so that’s probably why it wasn’t clear to me, sorry.


PP. Do you know what fandoms your kid is reading in? There is a lot of Harry Potter and Star Wars (Reylo).

Of course there is romance and sex in these fics, but as mentioned that also appears in published novels and books. For example, Sarah Maas's published "A Court of Thorns and Roses" young adult series. Hunger Games is fairly G-rated but one of the main characters admits to being a paid courtesan (Finnick). There's a book about a dog and a widowed dad called "Art of Racing in the Rain" that has a seedy sub-plot about a teenage relative falsely accusing the dad of sexual assault.

Here's some info on Ali Hazelwood.

"Ali Hazelwood is the pen name of an Italian romance novelist and neuroscience professor based in the United States."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Hazelwood

Fics range from trash to right up there with some of the best contemporary novels I've read.

The nature of the writers (mostly female, educated, with large vocabularies) really resonated with me. And in their communities, they cheer each other on. By following their social media, you can learn more about them.

Here is another lady who is breaking out with a rewrite of a Harry Potter fanfiction. Yes, there's some sex in it for sure.

https://brigitteknightley.com/

I do think that a lot of the Harry Potter fanfiction that women enjoy places Hermione at the center of the story. So the elaborated fan stories celebrate her character, choices, career options, etc. And she ends up with somebody who is less goofy and oafish than Ron Weasley. So...basic escapism fantasy with all good things flowing to the heroine in the end.

I have read a couple of completely G-rated fan fics that provided a far more satisfying end to stories with ambiguous endings.

My son has crossed over into fan fics via anime. He's in college now and actually reads regular books now.

I think this will turn out okay.

If you want your daughter to do something else during class maybe ask her to study for the SATs.


Wow you are really passionate about this subject


I like to read and I've been very disappointed in contemporary published fiction.

Fanfiction is actually a very interesting pop culture phenomenon. The scope and scale of it can be quite surprising to people who are unaware of it.

And as I mentioned, it's very aligned with the interests of literary-minded women of a certain age.

Some say that romance writing is not as respected by the publishing world because it is a genre mainly authored by women for women. So, it's interesting to watch this fanfic "folk craft" bleed into professional publishing.

I never followed author's careers before I started reading fanfic. I would say there are analogies with the rags to riches stories in professional music and sports careers. Seeing these authors succeed is like having been a person who saw Ed Sheeran busking on a street corner as a teen.

Speaking of which, I have an underrated musician recommendation I’d like to give to this site. Her name is Meg Smith and she is so talented! DD 15 introduced me to her. Her tune “Jesus Christ in a Mini Skirt” is a bop!

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. Don’t let your child read highly sexed fan fiction during class. It’s not appropriate.


OK then no classics either. No Anna Karenina, no Madame Bovary, no Scarlet Letter, no Dracula, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:Nope. Don’t let your child read highly sexed fan fiction during class. It’s not appropriate.


OK then no classics either. No Anna Karenina, no Madame Bovary, no Scarlet Letter, no Dracula, etc.

Not during computer science, no. She can read what she’d like on her own time, but during computer science she should be doing computer science. End of story!
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I think most older kids (especially 17!) should be able to read what they want but not during class when they’re supposed to be doing something else
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You're daughter reads??? Ewww!!!
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Tell her to start writing "fan ficks"
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Anonymous wrote:Nope. Don’t let your child read highly sexed fan fiction during class. It’s not appropriate.


OK then no classics either. No Anna Karenina, no Madame Bovary, no Scarlet Letter, no Dracula, etc.

Not during computer science, no. She can read what she’d like on her own time, but during computer science she should be doing computer science. End of story!


It's tech ed, not computer science. There nothing to do. It's your fault for putting your 17 year old in a class designed for 12 year olds.
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