Why is med school so hard to get into if there is a shortage of doctors?

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There are plenty of doctors, just no one the average American would want to see. I know I’m not the only one that looks at a doctors credentials and skip over any that have a degree from an unknown school or one from the Caribbean.
On the flipside, I took my dd to a pediatric practice that had 3 Harvard grads and one from Cornell. Saw all of them before moving on. They were terrible. I told one in private to subtly bring up my dd’s weight problem and the first thing she told her was “your mom is worried about your weight gain”. Another one ignored a symptom that was later diagnosed as something serious, and the 3rd one couldn’t have been more disinterested.
So we have a lot of doctors but many of them are not that good.

[Anonymous]

It's not just medical school slots, it's residency slots. There just aren't enough to train the number of doctors we need. They're increasing them gradually, but they were frozen for years. They're supported by Medicare so it takes legislation to do this.

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Anonymous wrote:If you're willing to go DO, it's not nearly as hard.
https://www.aacom.org/searches/reports/report/aacomas-applicants-and-matriculants-average-gpa-2016-2023#:~:text=The%20report%20*Applicants%20Matriculants%20Trends*%20summarizes%20the,respectively%20*%20Science:%203.44%20and%203.49%2C%20respectively

there's a reason for that...don't go DO

Why? Mine is great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:thats ok, your NP with the online for profit six month degree, no official tests, no official training beats any doctor, "mind of a doctor, heart of a nurse".....

My aunt is an emergency room NP. She has a great salary and a beautiful new Infiniti, but I can assure you she does not have a heart.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's cheaper to farm in a bunch of Indian and Chinese med school graduates.

yep. It's much cheaper

Cheaper for who exactly?

United Healthcare

Such an ignorant answer. Are you under the impression that United Healthcare cares where the billing doctor went to school?

You definitely missed the point. Provider wages (paid by insurance companies) can be suppressed if you bring in labor from the developing world.

So-called shortages in U.S. labor are often pressed as a political issue with the proposed solution of importing cheaper labor. This is in every sector of the economy.

Please provide any semblance of proof for the statement you made.

This poster needs to be ignored. They are either delusional about the reality of foreign-trained doctors in the US, or is a foreign-trained doctor and is defensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you're willing to go DO, it's not nearly as hard.
https://www.aacom.org/searches/reports/report/aacomas-applicants-and-matriculants-average-gpa-2016-2023#:~:text=The%20report%20*Applicants%20Matriculants%20Trends*%20summarizes%20the,respectively%20*%20Science:%203.44%20and%203.49%2C%20respectively

You’d be surprised. There are far less DO schools, and many are just competitive as MD.
However, some of the carribean med schools are test optional or easy to get into. Will you get a residency? Maybe not. But half of the MAHA docs never passed their boards or did a residency so…,

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's cheaper to farm in a bunch of Indian and Chinese med school graduates.

yep. It's much cheaper

Cheaper for who exactly?

United Healthcare

Such an ignorant answer. Are you under the impression that United Healthcare cares where the billing doctor went to school?

You definitely missed the point. Provider wages (paid by insurance companies) can be suppressed if you bring in labor from the developing world.

So-called shortages in U.S. labor are often pressed as a political issue with the proposed solution of importing cheaper labor. This is in every sector of the economy.

Please provide any semblance of proof for the statement you made.

If you do not understand this from following U.S. news and policy over the last 30 years, it is because you choose not to.

I understand perfectly that you've been told a lot of nonsense by Fox news that you now believe without any actual proof. Either produce the evidence or shut up.

I'm definitely left of center and I probably hate faux news more than you do. But I am annoyed that wages have been suppressed by large corporations through lobbying congress for special visa exemptions that just so happen to increase their profit margins. Those are just facts. You can choose to like or not like them.

Again, provide evidence or shut up. If it's so evident, why haven't you done it yet?

Because I'm not your browbeaten child or your slave, so you can do your own research or not.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's cheaper to farm in a bunch of Indian and Chinese med school graduates.

yep. It's much cheaper

Cheaper for who exactly?

United Healthcare

Such an ignorant answer. Are you under the impression that United Healthcare cares where the billing doctor went to school?

You definitely missed the point. Provider wages (paid by insurance companies) can be suppressed if you bring in labor from the developing world.

So-called shortages in U.S. labor are often pressed as a political issue with the proposed solution of importing cheaper labor. This is in every sector of the economy.

Please provide any semblance of proof for the statement you made.

If you do not understand this from following U.S. news and policy over the last 30 years, it is because you choose not to.

I understand perfectly that you've been told a lot of nonsense by Fox news that you now believe without any actual proof. Either produce the evidence or shut up.

I'm definitely left of center and I probably hate faux news more than you do. But I am annoyed that wages have been suppressed by large corporations through lobbying congress for special visa exemptions that just so happen to increase their profit margins. Those are just facts. You can choose to like or not like them.

Again, provide evidence or shut up. If it's so evident, why haven't you done it yet?

Because I'm not your browbeaten child or your slave, so you can do your own research or not.

Cool, cool. Glad we established that you have zero idea what you're talking about and that no one should listen to your ignorant nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Crazy GPA preferences miles ahead of ones needed for Big Law, consulting, banking etc.

because we can't have incompetant doctors, lives are at stake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of doctors, just no one the average American would want to see. I know I’m not the only one that looks at a doctors credentials and skip over any that have a degree from an unknown school or one from the Caribbean.
On the flipside, I took my dd to a pediatric practice that had 3 Harvard grads and one from Cornell. Saw all of them before moving on. They were terrible. I told one in private to subtly bring up my dd’s weight problem and the first thing she told her was “your mom is worried about your weight gain”. Another one ignored a symptom that was later diagnosed as something serious, and the 3rd one couldn’t have been more disinterested.
So we have a lot of doctors but many of them are not that good.

You don't need an Ivy League educated physician to get your kid to stop stuffing her face.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because you have to attend 8 years of university before several editions years’ residency. It’s ridiculous and unlike the rest of the world. It should be an undergrad degree like everywhere else, 5 years at most, then residency.

There’s tons of cost savings right there.

Please tell your kid to go to another country for med school. People are so sure they have a better way like to hear themselves talk.

[Anonymous]

There's a shortage because it's hard.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of doctors, just no one the average American would want to see. I know I’m not the only one that looks at a doctors credentials and skip over any that have a degree from an unknown school or one from the Caribbean.
On the flipside, I took my dd to a pediatric practice that had 3 Harvard grads and one from Cornell. Saw all of them before moving on. They were terrible. I told one in private to subtly bring up my dd’s weight problem and the first thing she told her was “your mom is worried about your weight gain”. Another one ignored a symptom that was later diagnosed as something serious, and the 3rd one couldn’t have been more disinterested.
So we have a lot of doctors but many of them are not that good.

One of my doctors went to school in the Caribbean. She’s fantastic. I never thought to check credentials until I kept seeing it on here and looked up my regular doctors and specialists. At that point, I had been going to her for years. I’m glad I didn’t use this as a reason to never make that initial appointment.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a shortage because it's hard.

Nope- factually incorrect!!

In the 80s Congress and the AMA decided that there were wayyy too many doctors and purposefully decided to create this shortage- look it up!

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of doctors, just no one the average American would want to see. I know I’m not the only one that looks at a doctors credentials and skip over any that have a degree from an unknown school or one from the Caribbean.
On the flipside, I took my dd to a pediatric practice that had 3 Harvard grads and one from Cornell. Saw all of them before moving on. They were terrible. I told one in private to subtly bring up my dd’s weight problem and the first thing she told her was “your mom is worried about your weight gain”. Another one ignored a symptom that was later diagnosed as something serious, and the 3rd one couldn’t have been more disinterested.
So we have a lot of doctors but many of them are not that good.

One of my doctors went to school in the Caribbean. She’s fantastic. I never thought to check credentials until I kept seeing it on here and looked up my regular doctors and specialists. At that point, I had been going to her for years. I’m glad I didn’t use this as a reason to never make that initial appointment.

"He graduated from the University of ... Grenada! ... And his graduate work was done in... Aruba!"

"An all-Caribbean schooling... well, tally me banana!"

Frasier