Measles confirmed - exposure to thousands in NoVA and DC

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Anonymous wrote:If you're vaccinated, it shouldn't matter. If you're not, well, good luck.

The people who were vaccinated and only had passing exposure will be fine. But whoever was next to them taking in that overwhelming viral assault for several hours might want to keep a lookout for symptoms.

Wrong. Vaccines work. If you are vaccinated you are completely protected. If you can’t be vaccinated for a legitimate reason, the you rely on others to do it for you and that’s where the problem is.

No one hates maha more than me (or is more pro-vax) but the whole point is that it doesn’t work completely…that’s why we need herd immunity!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're vaccinated, it shouldn't matter. If you're not, well, good luck.

The people who were vaccinated and only had passing exposure will be fine. But whoever was next to them taking in that overwhelming viral assault for several hours might want to keep a lookout for symptoms.

Wrong. Vaccines work. If you are vaccinated you are completely protected. If you can’t be vaccinated for a legitimate reason, the you rely on others to do it for you and that’s where the problem is.

Actually, if you’ve had one dose, you’re about 93% protected and if you’ve had two doses, you are 97% protected. Even vaccinated individuals are not “completely protected”. And I say this as someone who was recently informed
by the state health department that since I was identified as a potential contact of someone with measles, I am considered “protected” since I’m vaccinated, but I still need to monitor for symptoms for 21 days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My youngest is under 6 months and this terrifies me.

I’m really sorry. I sincerely feel so sad for people with young kids who now have to worry about this type of thing. Just incredibly sad for us all.

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Anonymous wrote:They are at the March of Life because of course they were. Hope all of the unvaccinated MAHA forced birthers get the measles. I can’t wish ill on their kids though because it is not their fault but if one of those 18 year old boys gets it, it gonna cry.

They only care about unborn life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're vaccinated, it shouldn't matter. If you're not, well, good luck.

The people who were vaccinated and only had passing exposure will be fine. But whoever was next to them taking in that overwhelming viral assault for several hours might want to keep a lookout for symptoms.

Wrong. Vaccines work. If you are vaccinated you are completely protected. If you can’t be vaccinated for a legitimate reason, the you rely on others to do it for you and that’s where the problem is.

Actually, if you’ve had one dose, you’re about 93% protected and if you’ve had two doses, you are 97% protected. Even vaccinated individuals are not “completely protected”. And I say this as someone who was recently informed
by the state health department that since I was identified as a potential contact of someone with measles, I am considered “protected” since I’m vaccinated, but I still need to monitor for symptoms for 21 days.

Except if the virus mutates. Whooping cough was going around a year ago. My kids got it despite being vaccinated and gave it to me. I was newly vaccinated from a few months before with an updated dose and still got it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are at the March of Life because of course they were. Hope all of the unvaccinated MAHA forced birthers get the measles. I can’t wish ill on their kids though because it is not their fault but if one of those 18 year old boys gets it, it gonna cry.

They only care about unborn life.

Once the babies are born they don’t care but it’s a silly talking point as look how many here brag about going out sick, unmasked, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Back in 2020-22 covid days people quickly stopped worrying or even being performative about not infecting others, including the elderly or immunocompromised.

People "needed to live their lives."
I privately wondered if it would have been different if it were children, not elders, at high risk.

Well, now we have measles. Yes, kids. Yes, babies. Yes, this time actually preventable with vaccines...but my freedoms!

Eventually measles exposure won't be reported. People will "live their lives."

Welcome to the 1950s. I remember them well. Got measles. Got glasses after.

I get your point but FYI three and under are high risk for covid. And babies one years old and younger are so high risk for the covid complications that their risk level is the same as people over 65.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you're vaccinated, it shouldn't matter. If you're not, well, good luck.

Also, there is a failure rate for all vaccines. It's low enough to not matter if there is sufficient herd immunity, but you knew that. People have been telling you that for decades, but you don't listen. Why? I don't know.

Measles Vaccine Efficacy

- Antibodies develop in approximately 95% of children vaccinated at age 12 months and over 99% of children who receive 2 doses

Immunity long-term and probably lifelong in most persons

Measles antibodies develop in approximately 95% of children vaccinated at age 12 months. Seroconversion rates are similar for single-antigen measles, MMR vaccine, and MMRV vaccine. Approximately 2% to 7% of children who receive only 1 dose of MMR vaccine fail to respond to it, i.e., they experience primary vaccine failure. MMR vaccine failure can occur because of passive antibody in the vaccine recipient, immaturity of the immune system, damaged vaccine, or other reasons. Most persons who fail to respond to the first dose will respond to a second dose. Studies indicate that more than 99% of persons who receive 2 doses of measles vaccine (with the first dose administered no earlier than the first birthday) develop serologic evidence of measles immunity.

https://www.cdc.gov/pinkbook/hcp/table-of-contents/chapter-13-measles.html

Let's say the failure rate is 0.3%. The US population is about 338 million. Out of 330 million, 0.3% is still 990,000 -- or close to a million.

It's a very good vaccine, but there is a failure rate, and there are immunocompromised people, and little babies. You know this, but for some reason, you just don't care. That's hideous.

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Anonymous wrote:My youngest is under 6 months and this terrifies me.

This is why you don’t take infants who can’t be vaccinated to crowded places.

You can't take a 6 month old to the grocery store? Even if there is nobody else in it? The measles vaccine lingers in the air and is contagious for 3-4 hours after an infected person has left the area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're vaccinated, it shouldn't matter. If you're not, well, good luck.

The people who were vaccinated and only had passing exposure will be fine. But whoever was next to them taking in that overwhelming viral assault for several hours might want to keep a lookout for symptoms.

Wrong. Vaccines work. If you are vaccinated you are completely protected. If you can’t be vaccinated for a legitimate reason, the you rely on others to do it for you and that’s where the problem is.

Why do you ignore the known (small, but very real, and very well known) failure rate?

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter has lupus and is immuno-depressed. My best friend's spouse had a bone marrow transplant and until he could get all his childhood vaccines, was entirely vulnerable. There are people like this all over the world.

Our duty is to be careful how we approach families with vulnerable people in them. If you see someone wearing a mask, don't laugh and point. They have good reason to.

Who on earth is laughing and pointing at people in masks? I don't even notice it; it's so normalized (but I guess I live in a purple ish city). I'm hoping this mocking only happens online, anonymously. Only ones being mocked are ICE maskers who are hypocrites.

I don't even go near babies now ever. I just say "cute baby" and stay really far back. Keep those covid distancing rules! 😂

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This is so sad and was completely avoidable.

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You are correct. It is terrible and sad. We had this kicked before the nonsense bubbling up about "it wasn't the vaccines, it was plumbing! better hygiene!"

Such BS. Entirely preventable.

Measles elimination in the United States

In 1978, CDC set a goal to eliminate measles from the United States by 1982. Although this goal was not met, widespread use of measles vaccine drastically reduced the disease rates. By 1981, the number of reported measles cases was 80% less compared with the previous year.

However, a 1989 measles outbreaks among vaccinated school-aged children prompted the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), and the American Academy of Family Physicians (AAFP) to recommend a second dose of MMR vaccine for all children. Following widespread implementation of this recommendation and improvements in first-dose MMR vaccine coverage, reported measles cases declined even more.

Historic achievement

Measles was declared eliminated from the United States in 2000. This meant the absence of the continuous spread of disease was greater than 12 months. This was thanks to a highly effective vaccination program in the United States, as well as better measles control in the Americas region.

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My youngest is under 6 months and this terrifies me.

I'm sorry. Some people are both selfish and stupid these days, and it's a deadly combination.

[Anonymous]

It is so terrible that people are willing to risk little babies for absolutely no reason at all.

Pneumonia. As many as 1 out of every 20 children with measles gets pneumonia, the most common cause of death from measles in young children.

Encephalitis. About 1 child out of every 1,000 who get measles will develop encephalitis (swelling of the brain). This can lead to convulsions and leave the child deaf or with intellectual disability.

Death. Nearly 1 to 3 of every 1,000 children who become infected with measles will die from respiratory and neurologic complications.
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Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE) is a very rare, but fatal disease of the central nervous system. It results from a measles virus infection acquired earlier in life.
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SSPE generally develops 7 to 10 years after a person has measles, even though the person seems to have fully recovered from the illness.
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Among people who contracted measles during the resurgence in the United States in 1989 to 1991, 7 to 11 out of every 100,000 were estimated to be at risk for developing SSPE. The risk of developing SSPE may be higher for a person who gets measles before they are 2 years of age.

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/signs-symptoms/index.html