God and orthodontics

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Almost like we weren’t “designed” by a god right ?


Or there really was a fall that messed things up...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Almost like we weren’t “designed” by a god right ?


Or there really was a fall that messed things up...




So god changed the design of Adam and Eve after they ate the forbidden fruit?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Almost like we weren’t “designed” by a god right ?


Or there really was a fall that messed things up...




So god changed the design of Adam and Eve after they ate the forbidden fruit?



Yeah - hadn't you heard? At least he told Eve that all women would henceforth bring children into the world in great pain.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Almost like we weren’t “designed” by a god right ?


Or there really was a fall that messed things up...




So god changed the design of Adam and Eve after they ate the forbidden fruit?



Yeah - hadn't you heard? At least he told Eve that all women would henceforth bring children into the world in great pain.


A religion created by men that blames all women forever, and for all time. There is nothing misogynistic about it.
Anonymous
Eh, the human body was only 'designed' to last 40 or 50 years. In the olden days, people died of natural causes or got eaten by tigers by then. Our teeth and hips are good for 50 years, so the design meets the requirements. God was one heck of an engineer.

It's only as humans began living longer through artificial intervention that these parts started wearing out.

We're like cars that were delivered with a 100,000 mile warranty. With lots of maintenence and perhaps a new engine, we've made it to 200,000 miles ... but the door hinges are creaking and the seats are wearing thin.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Eh, the human body was only 'designed' to last 40 or 50 years. In the olden days, people died of natural causes or got eaten by tigers by then. Our teeth and hips are good for 50 years, so the design meets the requirements. God was one heck of an engineer.

It's only as humans began living longer through artificial intervention that these parts started wearing out.

We're like cars that were delivered with a 100,000 mile warranty. With lots of maintenence and perhaps a new engine, we've made it to 200,000 miles ... but the door hinges are creaking and the seats are wearing thin.


Your god designed people to only last for 40-50 years, yet those same early people supposedly lived for hundreds of years... great engineering plan! Very well thought out for an omniscient entity.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Eh, the human body was only 'designed' to last 40 or 50 years. In the olden days, people died of natural causes or got eaten by tigers by then. Our teeth and hips are good for 50 years, so the design meets the requirements. God was one heck of an engineer.

It's only as humans began living longer through artificial intervention that these parts started wearing out.

We're like cars that were delivered with a 100,000 mile warranty. With lots of maintenence and perhaps a new engine, we've made it to 200,000 miles ... but the door hinges are creaking and the seats are wearing thin.


Apparently God didn't design you with intelligence.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well we don’t used to gnaw on mushy food for the first two years of our lives and we were all breastfed so earlier humans had perfect teeth. Almost like humans have done everything to destroy what thousands of years of evolution already solved for us.


People have been complaining about rotten, painful teeth for as long as we have a historical record. If evolution ever got it right, it’s about 10,000 years behind.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What was that dude thinking when he designed teeth and oral cavity? Was there any plan other than looking out for financial stability of future dentists? Why there is a so much extracting, expanding, wrenching, metaling and moving going on in mouths all over the world? This article feels hyperbole is modern days yet seriously thought provoking.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/2026/01/do-kids-need-palate-expanders/685556/?gift=pCLJhLsj2xNfab0OdYk9gmlx4ikYfenm2Z39oOlXLnA&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share&fbclid=IwdGRleAPd1sJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEeZ15cVjTe1y6aS_QmgMQciQjbuCrpu3vJhRuMS2_EudLGXMUaZQTalx6A97A_aem_azKStfqgvILaAKe3QLmkKg


Have you noticed many dentists and orthodontists don't have "perfect" teeth themselves? It's even easier for them now wearing facial masks to mask their imperfect teeth.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What was that dude thinking when he designed teeth and oral cavity? Was there any plan other than looking out for financial stability of future dentists? Why there is a so much extracting, expanding, wrenching, metaling and moving going on in mouths all over the world? This article feels hyperbole is modern days yet seriously thought provoking.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/2026/01/do-kids-need-palate-expanders/685556/?gift=pCLJhLsj2xNfab0OdYk9gmlx4ikYfenm2Z39oOlXLnA&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share&fbclid=IwdGRleAPd1sJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEeZ15cVjTe1y6aS_QmgMQciQjbuCrpu3vJhRuMS2_EudLGXMUaZQTalx6A97A_aem_azKStfqgvILaAKe3QLmkKg


Have you noticed many dentists and orthodontists don't have "perfect" teeth themselves? It's even easier for them now wearing facial masks to mask their imperfect teeth.


I think perfect teeth are not in fashion these days.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What was that dude thinking when he designed teeth and oral cavity? Was there any plan other than looking out for financial stability of future dentists? Why there is a so much extracting, expanding, wrenching, metaling and moving going on in mouths all over the world? This article feels hyperbole is modern days yet seriously thought provoking.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/2026/01/do-kids-need-palate-expanders/685556/?gift=pCLJhLsj2xNfab0OdYk9gmlx4ikYfenm2Z39oOlXLnA&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share&fbclid=IwdGRleAPd1sJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEeZ15cVjTe1y6aS_QmgMQciQjbuCrpu3vJhRuMS2_EudLGXMUaZQTalx6A97A_aem_azKStfqgvILaAKe3QLmkKg


Have you noticed many dentists and orthodontists don't have "perfect" teeth themselves? It's even easier for them now wearing facial masks to mask their imperfect teeth.


I think perfect teeth are not in fashion these days.


About time to go natural and make dentistry about clinical needs not obsessive aesthetics.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What was that dude thinking when he designed teeth and oral cavity? Was there any plan other than looking out for financial stability of future dentists? Why there is a so much extracting, expanding, wrenching, metaling and moving going on in mouths all over the world? This article feels hyperbole is modern days yet seriously thought provoking.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/2026/01/do-kids-need-palate-expanders/685556/?gift=pCLJhLsj2xNfab0OdYk9gmlx4ikYfenm2Z39oOlXLnA&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share&fbclid=IwdGRleAPd1sJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEeZ15cVjTe1y6aS_QmgMQciQjbuCrpu3vJhRuMS2_EudLGXMUaZQTalx6A97A_aem_azKStfqgvILaAKe3QLmkKg


Have you noticed many dentists and orthodontists don't have "perfect" teeth themselves? It's even easier for them now wearing facial masks to mask their imperfect teeth.


I think perfect teeth are not in fashion these days.


About time to go natural and make dentistry about clinical needs not obsessive aesthetics.


But parents wants their kids' mouths to be perfect and Dentists can do it -- for a fee.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What was that dude thinking when he designed teeth and oral cavity? Was there any plan other than looking out for financial stability of future dentists? Why there is a so much extracting, expanding, wrenching, metaling and moving going on in mouths all over the world? This article feels hyperbole is modern days yet seriously thought provoking.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/2026/01/do-kids-need-palate-expanders/685556/?gift=pCLJhLsj2xNfab0OdYk9gmlx4ikYfenm2Z39oOlXLnA&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share&fbclid=IwdGRleAPd1sJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEeZ15cVjTe1y6aS_QmgMQciQjbuCrpu3vJhRuMS2_EudLGXMUaZQTalx6A97A_aem_azKStfqgvILaAKe3QLmkKg


Have you noticed many dentists and orthodontists don't have "perfect" teeth themselves? It's even easier for them now wearing facial masks to mask their imperfect teeth.


There's orthodontia get a "perfect" straight smile, and then there is orthodontia to correct problems with bite, or overlapping teeth that can make proper flossing/dental care more difficult. Lots of people had the latter and never worried too much about teeth looking perfect, but are grateful to have addressed issues that make it easier to chew food, reduce jaw issues, and made dental care easier as we age.

I had braces for three years and still have rotated incisors. They used to look straighter, but have never been perfect. Still glad I had braces.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What was that dude thinking when he designed teeth and oral cavity? Was there any plan other than looking out for financial stability of future dentists? Why there is a so much extracting, expanding, wrenching, metaling and moving going on in mouths all over the world? This article feels hyperbole is modern days yet seriously thought provoking.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/2026/01/do-kids-need-palate-expanders/685556/?gift=pCLJhLsj2xNfab0OdYk9gmlx4ikYfenm2Z39oOlXLnA&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share&fbclid=IwdGRleAPd1sJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEeZ15cVjTe1y6aS_QmgMQciQjbuCrpu3vJhRuMS2_EudLGXMUaZQTalx6A97A_aem_azKStfqgvILaAKe3QLmkKg


Have you noticed many dentists and orthodontists don't have "perfect" teeth themselves? It's even easier for them now wearing facial masks to mask their imperfect teeth.


There's orthodontia get a "perfect" straight smile, and then there is orthodontia to correct problems with bite, or overlapping teeth that can make proper flossing/dental care more difficult. Lots of people had the latter and never worried too much about teeth looking perfect, but are grateful to have addressed issues that make it easier to chew food, reduce jaw issues, and made dental care easier as we age.

I had braces for three years and still have rotated incisors. They used to look straighter, but have never been perfect. Still glad I had braces.


And I'm glad that I didn't have braces, though I begged for them. My mother was right -- my face grew into my teeth, which protrude slightly in front, but are perfectly straight.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Almost like we weren’t “designed” by a god right ?


Or there really was a fall that messed things up...




So god changed the design of Adam and Eve after they ate the forbidden fruit?



DP: That's an origin story, not doctrine. The Fall is more philosophical. We came from God and seek to return to God; in our human state we are imperfect and suffer.
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