DCI Robotics

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Anonymous wrote:We met some of the DCI students through the Capitol City Robotics program last year (a terrific program, btw!). My son is in elementary school and most of the high schools counselors for the program were from DCI and were truly an impressive bunch. The head of capitol city robotics has spoken very highly of DCI's program.

DCI appears to have threaded a terrific needle by having very advanced programming for some kids while still providing strong support for kids who need it.

How are you measuring this?

NP. This was discussed on another thread. DCI uses standardized test scores as one of the criteria for class placement in addition to grades and teacher’s recommendations so kids 3 or 4 levels apart are not in the same class. In addition, lowest bottom kids get extra support classes everyday instead of an elective.

If you look at SAT averages, DCI is around 1200 which is higher than Banneker which is a test in school and similar to Latin. Yet DCI has significantly more at risk, significantly more SPED, and significantly more ELL than Latin. This tells you that they are doing well with kids on both ends of the spectrum, high and low.

Banneker and DCI have around the same average SAT score, which is about 1150-1160.

Banneker has significantly higher proficiency levels in English and math than both DCI and Latin, and Latin is much stronger in English than DCI (not surprisingly, since some of DCI's classes are taught in a foreign language).

CAPE 4+

Banneker

Math (geometry): 53.2
English II: 90.3

Latin

Math (geometry): 14.1
English II: 74.7

DCI

Math (geometry): <1% [Algebra I: 33.2]
English II: 51.1

Overall, looking at how many kids are grade-level and above in English and math, DCI is well below both Banneker and Latin.

High school CAPE scores have been discussed so many times on here. They are not accurate especially when it comes to math. If a school has a very advance math track, many kids are not taking CAPE at all so the numbers are very misleading. Only the bottom kids in math are left taking CAPE.

So DCI offers AP Cal in 10th grade as a class. I don’t think Banneker or Latin offers that advance of a math track, In addition, the school has multiple classes of the level below that which would get you to AP Cal in 11th. So there are some kids in 10th, lots of kids in 11th, and even more kids in 12th. not taking CAPE at all. Also IB math is integrated. It is not compartmentalized like traditional schools. So they might cover Algebra some topics one year but not all and then rest next year. It just is not a similar comparison. As to ELA, yes kids are getting less time in ELA but at the benefit of being proficient in another language. So how do you account for this added benefit?

Assessing high schools, you should look at SAT scores and AP scores, not CAPE at all. Those are the parameters if your college bound kid is ready for the next higher level playing field of college. What this shows is that the kids heading to college at DCI are just as prepared as Banneker and Latin in math and ELA and with the benefit of knowing another languages.

Above is the reason why the scores look worst for DCI and yet they come out just as similar with SAT. It’s not like overnight these kids got a lot smarter or caught up. How do you account for such big discrepancies and yet SAT scores are similar? It is because how CAPE is measured is not accurate or representative of the whole student body at the high school level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We met some of the DCI students through the Capitol City Robotics program last year (a terrific program, btw!). My son is in elementary school and most of the high schools counselors for the program were from DCI and were truly an impressive bunch. The head of capitol city robotics has spoken very highly of DCI's program.

DCI appears to have threaded a terrific needle by having very advanced programming for some kids while still providing strong support for kids who need it.

How are you measuring this?

NP. This was discussed on another thread. DCI uses standardized test scores as one of the criteria for class placement in addition to grades and teacher’s recommendations so kids 3 or 4 levels apart are not in the same class. In addition, lowest bottom kids get extra support classes everyday instead of an elective.

If you look at SAT averages, DCI is around 1200 which is higher than Banneker which is a test in school and similar to Latin. Yet DCI has significantly more at risk, significantly more SPED, and significantly more ELL than Latin. This tells you that they are doing well with kids on both ends of the spectrum, high and low.

Are all of these students taking the SAT? I teach at a very diverse school division in the suburbs and we find that the lowest performing groups do not take the SAT.

This is a very interesting point. Does anyone know the answer?

I'm sure 100% of Banneker students have to take the SAT.

It’s common knowledge that only kids looking at college take the SAT so at majority of schools in general there is a certain percentage that don’t take it.

Selective schools are different. They have weeded out the lowest and lower performers already and most of these students are planning on going to college so you will have a much higher percentage of kids taking SAT.

There is no data that I know of that tells you percentages.

But I wouldn’t get stick on those numbers. The point is the kids taking the SAT are college bound and it is a fair comparison of schools.

Typo stuck not stick

The previous post mentioned DCI SAT scores as if the special populations suggested DCi was doing particularly well. Also, DCI has 18% at risk. Latin High school has 14%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We met some of the DCI students through the Capitol City Robotics program last year (a terrific program, btw!). My son is in elementary school and most of the high schools counselors for the program were from DCI and were truly an impressive bunch. The head of capitol city robotics has spoken very highly of DCI's program.

DCI appears to have threaded a terrific needle by having very advanced programming for some kids while still providing strong support for kids who need it.

How are you measuring this?

NP. This was discussed on another thread. DCI uses standardized test scores as one of the criteria for class placement in addition to grades and teacher’s recommendations so kids 3 or 4 levels apart are not in the same class. In addition, lowest bottom kids get extra support classes everyday instead of an elective.

If you look at SAT averages, DCI is around 1200 which is higher than Banneker which is a test in school and similar to Latin. Yet DCI has significantly more at risk, significantly more SPED, and significantly more ELL than Latin. This tells you that they are doing well with kids on both ends of the spectrum, high and low.

Are all of these students taking the SAT? I teach at a very diverse school division in the suburbs and we find that the lowest performing groups do not take the SAT.

This is a very interesting point. Does anyone know the answer?

I'm sure 100% of Banneker students have to take the SAT.

It’s common knowledge that only kids looking at college take the SAT so at majority of schools in general there is a certain percentage that don’t take it.

Selective schools are different. They have weeded out the lowest and lower performers already and most of these students are planning on going to college so you will have a much higher percentage of kids taking SAT.

There is no data that I know of that tells you percentages.

But I wouldn’t get stick on those numbers. The point is the kids taking the SAT are college bound and it is a fair comparison of schools.

Typo stuck not stick

The previous post mentioned DCI SAT scores as if the special populations suggested DCi was doing particularly well. Also, DCI has 18% at risk. Latin High school has 14%.

Why are you picking and choosing your data points? Why don’t you just post also SPED, ELL and the SAT average for Latin high school that was asked?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We met some of the DCI students through the Capitol City Robotics program last year (a terrific program, btw!). My son is in elementary school and most of the high schools counselors for the program were from DCI and were truly an impressive bunch. The head of capitol city robotics has spoken very highly of DCI's program.

DCI appears to have threaded a terrific needle by having very advanced programming for some kids while still providing strong support for kids who need it.

How are you measuring this?

NP. This was discussed on another thread. DCI uses standardized test scores as one of the criteria for class placement in addition to grades and teacher’s recommendations so kids 3 or 4 levels apart are not in the same class. In addition, lowest bottom kids get extra support classes everyday instead of an elective.

If you look at SAT averages, DCI is around 1200 which is higher than Banneker which is a test in school and similar to Latin. Yet DCI has significantly more at risk, significantly more SPED, and significantly more ELL than Latin. This tells you that they are doing well with kids on both ends of the spectrum, high and low.

Banneker and DCI have around the same average SAT score, which is about 1150-1160.

Banneker has significantly higher proficiency levels in English and math than both DCI and Latin, and Latin is much stronger in English than DCI (not surprisingly, since some of DCI's classes are taught in a foreign language).

CAPE 4+

Banneker

Math (geometry): 53.2
English II: 90.3

Latin

Math (geometry): 14.1
English II: 74.7

DCI

Math (geometry): <1% [Algebra I: 33.2]
English II: 51.1

Overall, looking at how many kids are grade-level and above in English and math, DCI is well below both Banneker and Latin.

High school CAPE scores have been discussed so many times on here. They are not accurate especially when it comes to math. If a school has a very advance math track, many kids are not taking CAPE at all so the numbers are very misleading. Only the bottom kids in math are left taking CAPE.

So DCI offers AP Cal in 10th grade as a class. I don’t think Banneker or Latin offers that advance of a math track, In addition, the school has multiple classes of the level below that which would get you to AP Cal in 11th. So there are some kids in 10th, lots of kids in 11th, and even more kids in 12th. not taking CAPE at all. Also IB math is integrated. It is not compartmentalized like traditional schools. So they might cover Algebra some topics one year but not all and then rest next year. It just is not a similar comparison. As to ELA, yes kids are getting less time in ELA but at the benefit of being proficient in another language. So how do you account for this added benefit?

Assessing high schools, you should look at SAT scores and AP scores, not CAPE at all. Those are the parameters if your college bound kid is ready for the next higher level playing field of college. What this shows is that the kids heading to college at DCI are just as prepared as Banneker and Latin in math and ELA and with the benefit of knowing another languages.

Above is the reason why the scores look worst for DCI and yet they come out just as similar with SAT. It’s not like overnight these kids got a lot smarter or caught up. How do you account for such big discrepancies and yet SAT scores are similar? It is because how CAPE is measured is not accurate or representative of the whole student body at the high school level.

It wouldn’t take a lot of selection bias for the distance in the DCI SAT score relative to Banneker to diverge from the relative distance between CAPE scores at the two schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We met some of the DCI students through the Capitol City Robotics program last year (a terrific program, btw!). My son is in elementary school and most of the high schools counselors for the program were from DCI and were truly an impressive bunch. The head of capitol city robotics has spoken very highly of DCI's program.

DCI appears to have threaded a terrific needle by having very advanced programming for some kids while still providing strong support for kids who need it.

How are you measuring this?

NP. This was discussed on another thread. DCI uses standardized test scores as one of the criteria for class placement in addition to grades and teacher’s recommendations so kids 3 or 4 levels apart are not in the same class. In addition, lowest bottom kids get extra support classes everyday instead of an elective.

If you look at SAT averages, DCI is around 1200 which is higher than Banneker which is a test in school and similar to Latin. Yet DCI has significantly more at risk, significantly more SPED, and significantly more ELL than Latin. This tells you that they are doing well with kids on both ends of the spectrum, high and low.

Are all of these students taking the SAT? I teach at a very diverse school division in the suburbs and we find that the lowest performing groups do not take the SAT.

This is a very interesting point. Does anyone know the answer?

I'm sure 100% of Banneker students have to take the SAT.

It’s common knowledge that only kids looking at college take the SAT so at majority of schools in general there is a certain percentage that don’t take it.

Selective schools are different. They have weeded out the lowest and lower performers already and most of these students are planning on going to college so you will have a much higher percentage of kids taking SAT.

There is no data that I know of that tells you percentages.

But I wouldn’t get stick on those numbers. The point is the kids taking the SAT are college bound and it is a fair comparison of schools.

Typo stuck not stick

The previous post mentioned DCI SAT scores as if the special populations suggested DCi was doing particularly well. Also, DCI has 18% at risk. Latin High school has 14%.

What do you have against at risk, SPED or ELL? You don’t think that these groups can’t improve to do well and also aim to go to college?

Of course they do and DCI does amazingly well with the work and heavy lifting especially in regards to SPED. You can’t say that for many other schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We met some of the DCI students through the Capitol City Robotics program last year (a terrific program, btw!). My son is in elementary school and most of the high schools counselors for the program were from DCI and were truly an impressive bunch. The head of capitol city robotics has spoken very highly of DCI's program.

DCI appears to have threaded a terrific needle by having very advanced programming for some kids while still providing strong support for kids who need it.

How are you measuring this?

NP. This was discussed on another thread. DCI uses standardized test scores as one of the criteria for class placement in addition to grades and teacher’s recommendations so kids 3 or 4 levels apart are not in the same class. In addition, lowest bottom kids get extra support classes everyday instead of an elective.

If you look at SAT averages, DCI is around 1200 which is higher than Banneker which is a test in school and similar to Latin. Yet DCI has significantly more at risk, significantly more SPED, and significantly more ELL than Latin. This tells you that they are doing well with kids on both ends of the spectrum, high and low.

Are all of these students taking the SAT? I teach at a very diverse school division in the suburbs and we find that the lowest performing groups do not take the SAT.

This is a very interesting point. Does anyone know the answer?

I'm sure 100% of Banneker students have to take the SAT.

It’s common knowledge that only kids looking at college take the SAT so at majority of schools in general there is a certain percentage that don’t take it.

Selective schools are different. They have weeded out the lowest and lower performers already and most of these students are planning on going to college so you will have a much higher percentage of kids taking SAT.

There is no data that I know of that tells you percentages.

But I wouldn’t get stick on those numbers. The point is the kids taking the SAT are college bound and it is a fair comparison of schools.

Typo stuck not stick

The previous post mentioned DCI SAT scores as if the special populations suggested DCi was doing particularly well. Also, DCI has 18% at risk. Latin High school has 14%.

What do you have against at risk, SPED or ELL? You don’t think that these groups can’t improve to do well and also aim to go to college?

Of course they do and DCI does amazingly well with the work and heavy lifting especially in regards to SPED. You can’t say that for many other schools.

Our neighbors had a kid with an IEP at DCI that left the school because the SPED services were so bad. They didn’t have consistent staffing and the general education teachers weren’t following the accommodations in the IEP. There doesn’t seem like a lot of data related to success or lack of for this student population.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We met some of the DCI students through the Capitol City Robotics program last year (a terrific program, btw!). My son is in elementary school and most of the high schools counselors for the program were from DCI and were truly an impressive bunch. The head of capitol city robotics has spoken very highly of DCI's program.

DCI appears to have threaded a terrific needle by having very advanced programming for some kids while still providing strong support for kids who need it.

How are you measuring this?

NP. This was discussed on another thread. DCI uses standardized test scores as one of the criteria for class placement in addition to grades and teacher’s recommendations so kids 3 or 4 levels apart are not in the same class. In addition, lowest bottom kids get extra support classes everyday instead of an elective.

If you look at SAT averages, DCI is around 1200 which is higher than Banneker which is a test in school and similar to Latin. Yet DCI has significantly more at risk, significantly more SPED, and significantly more ELL than Latin. This tells you that they are doing well with kids on both ends of the spectrum, high and low.

Banneker and DCI have around the same average SAT score, which is about 1150-1160.

Banneker has significantly higher proficiency levels in English and math than both DCI and Latin, and Latin is much stronger in English than DCI (not surprisingly, since some of DCI's classes are taught in a foreign language).

CAPE 4+

Banneker

Math (geometry): 53.2
English II: 90.3

Latin

Math (geometry): 14.1
English II: 74.7

DCI

Math (geometry): <1% [Algebra I: 33.2]
English II: 51.1

Overall, looking at how many kids are grade-level and above in English and math, DCI is well below both Banneker and Latin.

High school CAPE scores have been discussed so many times on here. They are not accurate especially when it comes to math. If a school has a very advance math track, many kids are not taking CAPE at all so the numbers are very misleading. Only the bottom kids in math are left taking CAPE.

So DCI offers AP Cal in 10th grade as a class. I don’t think Banneker or Latin offers that advance of a math track, In addition, the school has multiple classes of the level below that which would get you to AP Cal in 11th. So there are some kids in 10th, lots of kids in 11th, and even more kids in 12th. not taking CAPE at all. Also IB math is integrated. It is not compartmentalized like traditional schools. So they might cover Algebra some topics one year but not all and then rest next year. It just is not a similar comparison. As to ELA, yes kids are getting less time in ELA but at the benefit of being proficient in another language. So how do you account for this added benefit?

Assessing high schools, you should look at SAT scores and AP scores, not CAPE at all. Those are the parameters if your college bound kid is ready for the next higher level playing field of college. What this shows is that the kids heading to college at DCI are just as prepared as Banneker and Latin in math and ELA and with the benefit of knowing another languages.

Above is the reason why the scores look worst for DCI and yet they come out just as similar with SAT. It’s not like overnight these kids got a lot smarter or caught up. How do you account for such big discrepancies and yet SAT scores are similar? It is because how CAPE is measured is not accurate or representative of the whole student body at the high school level.

It wouldn’t take a lot of selection bias for the distance in the DCI SAT score relative to Banneker to diverge from the relative distance between CAPE scores at the two schools

What does this word salad mean? What is your point?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We met some of the DCI students through the Capitol City Robotics program last year (a terrific program, btw!). My son is in elementary school and most of the high schools counselors for the program were from DCI and were truly an impressive bunch. The head of capitol city robotics has spoken very highly of DCI's program.

DCI appears to have threaded a terrific needle by having very advanced programming for some kids while still providing strong support for kids who need it.

How are you measuring this?

NP. This was discussed on another thread. DCI uses standardized test scores as one of the criteria for class placement in addition to grades and teacher’s recommendations so kids 3 or 4 levels apart are not in the same class. In addition, lowest bottom kids get extra support classes everyday instead of an elective.

If you look at SAT averages, DCI is around 1200 which is higher than Banneker which is a test in school and similar to Latin. Yet DCI has significantly more at risk, significantly more SPED, and significantly more ELL than Latin. This tells you that they are doing well with kids on both ends of the spectrum, high and low.

Are all of these students taking the SAT? I teach at a very diverse school division in the suburbs and we find that the lowest performing groups do not take the SAT.

This is a very interesting point. Does anyone know the answer?

I'm sure 100% of Banneker students have to take the SAT.

It’s common knowledge that only kids looking at college take the SAT so at majority of schools in general there is a certain percentage that don’t take it.

Selective schools are different. They have weeded out the lowest and lower performers already and most of these students are planning on going to college so you will have a much higher percentage of kids taking SAT.

There is no data that I know of that tells you percentages.

But I wouldn’t get stick on those numbers. The point is the kids taking the SAT are college bound and it is a fair comparison of schools.

I don't think comparing DCIs SAT average is comparable to Banneker or Walls. It's not apples to apples if only a percentage of kids of kids take it.

Every single kid at Banneker and Walls is college bound -- that's the point of these schools. So they are all taking the SAT.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We met some of the DCI students through the Capitol City Robotics program last year (a terrific program, btw!). My son is in elementary school and most of the high schools counselors for the program were from DCI and were truly an impressive bunch. The head of capitol city robotics has spoken very highly of DCI's program.

DCI appears to have threaded a terrific needle by having very advanced programming for some kids while still providing strong support for kids who need it.

How are you measuring this?

NP. This was discussed on another thread. DCI uses standardized test scores as one of the criteria for class placement in addition to grades and teacher’s recommendations so kids 3 or 4 levels apart are not in the same class. In addition, lowest bottom kids get extra support classes everyday instead of an elective.

If you look at SAT averages, DCI is around 1200 which is higher than Banneker which is a test in school and similar to Latin. Yet DCI has significantly more at risk, significantly more SPED, and significantly more ELL than Latin. This tells you that they are doing well with kids on both ends of the spectrum, high and low.

Are all of these students taking the SAT? I teach at a very diverse school division in the suburbs and we find that the lowest performing groups do not take the SAT.

This is a very interesting point. Does anyone know the answer?

I'm sure 100% of Banneker students have to take the SAT.

It’s common knowledge that only kids looking at college take the SAT so at majority of schools in general there is a certain percentage that don’t take it.

Selective schools are different. They have weeded out the lowest and lower performers already and most of these students are planning on going to college so you will have a much higher percentage of kids taking SAT.

There is no data that I know of that tells you percentages.

But I wouldn’t get stick on those numbers. The point is the kids taking the SAT are college bound and it is a fair comparison of schools.

DC schools have all kids take both the PSAT and SAT for free once during the school year on a school day.

Some kids may opt out, but it’s a small %age.

[Anonymous]

Where can I find DCI’s SAT and AP scores?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We met some of the DCI students through the Capitol City Robotics program last year (a terrific program, btw!). My son is in elementary school and most of the high schools counselors for the program were from DCI and were truly an impressive bunch. The head of capitol city robotics has spoken very highly of DCI's program.

DCI appears to have threaded a terrific needle by having very advanced programming for some kids while still providing strong support for kids who need it.

How are you measuring this?

NP. This was discussed on another thread. DCI uses standardized test scores as one of the criteria for class placement in addition to grades and teacher’s recommendations so kids 3 or 4 levels apart are not in the same class. In addition, lowest bottom kids get extra support classes everyday instead of an elective.

If you look at SAT averages, DCI is around 1200 which is higher than Banneker which is a test in school and similar to Latin. Yet DCI has significantly more at risk, significantly more SPED, and significantly more ELL than Latin. This tells you that they are doing well with kids on both ends of the spectrum, high and low.

Are all of these students taking the SAT? I teach at a very diverse school division in the suburbs and we find that the lowest performing groups do not take the SAT.

This is a very interesting point. Does anyone know the answer?

I'm sure 100% of Banneker students have to take the SAT.

It’s common knowledge that only kids looking at college take the SAT so at majority of schools in general there is a certain percentage that don’t take it.

Selective schools are different. They have weeded out the lowest and lower performers already and most of these students are planning on going to college so you will have a much higher percentage of kids taking SAT.

There is no data that I know of that tells you percentages.

But I wouldn’t get stick on those numbers. The point is the kids taking the SAT are college bound and it is a fair comparison of schools.

DC schools have all kids take both the PSAT and SAT for free once during the school year on a school day.

Some kids may opt out, but it’s a small %age.

No, lots of kids opt out and just done come

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We met some of the DCI students through the Capitol City Robotics program last year (a terrific program, btw!). My son is in elementary school and most of the high schools counselors for the program were from DCI and were truly an impressive bunch. The head of capitol city robotics has spoken very highly of DCI's program.

DCI appears to have threaded a terrific needle by having very advanced programming for some kids while still providing strong support for kids who need it.

How are you measuring this?

NP. This was discussed on another thread. DCI uses standardized test scores as one of the criteria for class placement in addition to grades and teacher’s recommendations so kids 3 or 4 levels apart are not in the same class. In addition, lowest bottom kids get extra support classes everyday instead of an elective.

If you look at SAT averages, DCI is around 1200 which is higher than Banneker which is a test in school and similar to Latin. Yet DCI has significantly more at risk, significantly more SPED, and significantly more ELL than Latin. This tells you that they are doing well with kids on both ends of the spectrum, high and low.

Are all of these students taking the SAT? I teach at a very diverse school division in the suburbs and we find that the lowest performing groups do not take the SAT.

This is a very interesting point. Does anyone know the answer?

I'm sure 100% of Banneker students have to take the SAT.

It’s common knowledge that only kids looking at college take the SAT so at majority of schools in general there is a certain percentage that don’t take it.

Selective schools are different. They have weeded out the lowest and lower performers already and most of these students are planning on going to college so you will have a much higher percentage of kids taking SAT.

There is no data that I know of that tells you percentages.

But I wouldn’t get stick on those numbers. The point is the kids taking the SAT are college bound and it is a fair comparison of schools.

DC schools have all kids take both the PSAT and SAT for free once during the school year on a school day.

Some kids may opt out, but it’s a small %age.

No, lots of kids opt out and just done come

typo don’t

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We met some of the DCI students through the Capitol City Robotics program last year (a terrific program, btw!). My son is in elementary school and most of the high schools counselors for the program were from DCI and were truly an impressive bunch. The head of capitol city robotics has spoken very highly of DCI's program.

DCI appears to have threaded a terrific needle by having very advanced programming for some kids while still providing strong support for kids who need it.

How are you measuring this?

NP. This was discussed on another thread. DCI uses standardized test scores as one of the criteria for class placement in addition to grades and teacher’s recommendations so kids 3 or 4 levels apart are not in the same class. In addition, lowest bottom kids get extra support classes everyday instead of an elective.

If you look at SAT averages, DCI is around 1200 which is higher than Banneker which is a test in school and similar to Latin. Yet DCI has significantly more at risk, significantly more SPED, and significantly more ELL than Latin. This tells you that they are doing well with kids on both ends of the spectrum, high and low.

Are all of these students taking the SAT? I teach at a very diverse school division in the suburbs and we find that the lowest performing groups do not take the SAT.

This is a very interesting point. Does anyone know the answer?

I'm sure 100% of Banneker students have to take the SAT.

It’s common knowledge that only kids looking at college take the SAT so at majority of schools in general there is a certain percentage that don’t take it.

Selective schools are different. They have weeded out the lowest and lower performers already and most of these students are planning on going to college so you will have a much higher percentage of kids taking SAT.

There is no data that I know of that tells you percentages.

But I wouldn’t get stick on those numbers. The point is the kids taking the SAT are college bound and it is a fair comparison of schools.

I don't think comparing DCIs SAT average is comparable to Banneker or Walls. It's not apples to apples if only a percentage of kids of kids take it.

Every single kid at Banneker and Walls is college bound -- that's the point of these schools. So they are all taking the SAT.

I wanted to stay out of this stupid tit for tat about these 3 schools that all serve their students well. But this comment suggesting DCI kids are not all college-bound is out of bounds. DCI offers the SAT 2x for their students. I don't know if every single student takes it, but to suggest that DCI is not aiming for all their kids to take it and be bound for some post-secondary education is ridiculous. DCI also has an IB Career Program, for students who want to go into a more technical field, including health care. Those students may not all need to attend college/it may not be the wisest move for their career field. DCI is supporting them in whatever post-secondary path they take and serving their student population well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We met some of the DCI students through the Capitol City Robotics program last year (a terrific program, btw!). My son is in elementary school and most of the high schools counselors for the program were from DCI and were truly an impressive bunch. The head of capitol city robotics has spoken very highly of DCI's program.

DCI appears to have threaded a terrific needle by having very advanced programming for some kids while still providing strong support for kids who need it.

How are you measuring this?

NP. This was discussed on another thread. DCI uses standardized test scores as one of the criteria for class placement in addition to grades and teacher’s recommendations so kids 3 or 4 levels apart are not in the same class. In addition, lowest bottom kids get extra support classes everyday instead of an elective.

If you look at SAT averages, DCI is around 1200 which is higher than Banneker which is a test in school and similar to Latin. Yet DCI has significantly more at risk, significantly more SPED, and significantly more ELL than Latin. This tells you that they are doing well with kids on both ends of the spectrum, high and low.

Are all of these students taking the SAT? I teach at a very diverse school division in the suburbs and we find that the lowest performing groups do not take the SAT.

This is a very interesting point. Does anyone know the answer?

I'm sure 100% of Banneker students have to take the SAT.

It’s common knowledge that only kids looking at college take the SAT so at majority of schools in general there is a certain percentage that don’t take it.

Selective schools are different. They have weeded out the lowest and lower performers already and most of these students are planning on going to college so you will have a much higher percentage of kids taking SAT.

There is no data that I know of that tells you percentages.

But I wouldn’t get stick on those numbers. The point is the kids taking the SAT are college bound and it is a fair comparison of schools.

I don't think comparing DCIs SAT average is comparable to Banneker or Walls. It's not apples to apples if only a percentage of kids of kids take it.

Every single kid at Banneker and Walls is college bound -- that's the point of these schools. So they are all taking the SAT.

I wanted to stay out of this stupid tit for tat about these 3 schools that all serve their students well. But this comment suggesting DCI kids are not all college-bound is out of bounds. DCI offers the SAT 2x for their students. I don't know if every single student takes it, but to suggest that DCI is not aiming for all their kids to take it and be bound for some post-secondary education is ridiculous. DCI also has an IB Career Program, for students who want to go into a more technical field, including health care. Those students may not all need to attend college/it may not be the wisest move for their career field. DCI is supporting them in whatever post-secondary path they take and serving their student population well.

NP with no kids in high school. I would argue that it is absolutely comparable to Banneker and Walls. PP assertion above is very flawed.

The selective schools have already eliminated the bottom kids. They don’t get in period. It’s the higher performing college bound kids so of course most of the kids take the SAT.

DCi does not get that option to be a selective school and takes all kids, high performers and low just like all non selective schools in DC and the burbs. And like those schools, some kids not planning on going to college might not take the SAT and that is fine. These schools don’t get to shut them out from attending like the selective schools.

It is absolutely a fair comparison when looking at college bound kids the SAT scores. I would argue even further that Banneker and Walls has it much easier because they can offer a narrower curriculum due to this selection. DCI not only has to meet the academic needs of top performers but also low performers and yet the higher college bound performers are doing just as well. In addition, they are also juggling a middle school which has a whole other set of responsibilities and load in addition to the high school. They are also a language and IB school which BTW requires more work in documentation and answering to IB criteria and standards.

They are doing a whole lot more work and lifting than Banneker and Walls. And yet, their higher performing students are doing just as well. Kudos to them!! Credit should be given where credit is due. We need more non-selective neighborhood and DCPS schools like DCI that can serve not only the high performers and college bound kids well but all students.

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Anonymous wrote:Where can I find DCI’s SAT and AP scores?

DCI SAT scores are posted on here.

As to AP scores, I don’t know the answer but I went to their open house last year. The high school principal did a very informative slide deck show about their programming, offerings, and how students are doing.

I do recall a stat that something like 68% of their kids got high enough scores on their IB exams to get college credit. That stood out because it was a very high number in general.