Mcps waiting in line for renovation

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Anonymous wrote:It's usually starts west or southwest and moves up west of 270 then over to the northeast-ish then down county. Follw the $ zip codes with $. W = white. W= wealth(ier). W= wacked.


Ignore the lying troll.
Wootton HS and Cold Spring (W elem) are two of the most overdue for renovations


Really, Cold Spring should be closed. All of the Wootton cluster elementaries are well under capacity, and projected to keep decreasing. That money could be better spent on other projects.


Have you stepped foot in Cold Spring? Yes, it is considered "under capacity" but the actual capacity is no where near what it is claimed to be. There is no space for a carpet for kids to sit on for whole group. Much of the "square footage" is literally stairs in the classroom. During a shelter in place, due to weather, kids are forced to take shelter in bathrooms and tiny cramped closets. As someone who works there, there is no space for a class of more than 20, ESPECIALLY in the upper grades. Yes, our population is Potomac but these kids are still entitled to a free, public education. They are still children and shoving these kids into already at-capacity classes in neighboring schools won't help anyone.


I’m confused. You talk convincingly about the unacceptable conditions CS students endure… but you don’t want them to move to a better school?


They are unacceptable and that is why the school should be renovated. I'd be more than happy if more kids came to CS however, we are at capacity (if not over). We cannot fit all the students in one place ever. If we were under capacity, how does that make sense?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's usually starts west or southwest and moves up west of 270 then over to the northeast-ish then down county. Follw the $ zip codes with $. W = white. W= wealth(ier). W= wacked.


Ignore the lying troll.
Wootton HS and Cold Spring (W elem) are two of the most overdue for renovations


Really, Cold Spring should be closed. All of the Wootton cluster elementaries are well under capacity, and projected to keep decreasing. That money could be better spent on other projects.


Have you stepped foot in Cold Spring? Yes, it is considered "under capacity" but the actual capacity is no where near what it is claimed to be. There is no space for a carpet for kids to sit on for whole group. Much of the "square footage" is literally stairs in the classroom. During a shelter in place, due to weather, kids are forced to take shelter in bathrooms and tiny cramped closets. As someone who works there, there is no space for a class of more than 20, ESPECIALLY in the upper grades. Yes, our population is Potomac but these kids are still entitled to a free, public education. They are still children and shoving these kids into already at-capacity classes in neighboring schools won't help anyone.


I’m confused. You talk convincingly about the unacceptable conditions CS students endure… but you don’t want them to move to a better school?


They are unacceptable and that is why the school should be renovated. I'd be more than happy if more kids came to CS however, we are at capacity (if not over). We cannot fit all the students in one place ever. If we were under capacity, how does that make sense?


It’s not about the capacity at CS, it’s a question of whether there is space for those 300 students at nearby schools when they redraw boundaries. According to the CIP, there is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's usually starts west or southwest and moves up west of 270 then over to the northeast-ish then down county. Follw the $ zip codes with $. W = white. W= wealth(ier). W= wacked.


Ignore the lying troll.
Wootton HS and Cold Spring (W elem) are two of the most overdue for renovations


Really, Cold Spring should be closed. All of the Wootton cluster elementaries are well under capacity, and projected to keep decreasing. That money could be better spent on other projects.


Have you stepped foot in Cold Spring? Yes, it is considered "under capacity" but the actual capacity is no where near what it is claimed to be. There is no space for a carpet for kids to sit on for whole group. Much of the "square footage" is literally stairs in the classroom. During a shelter in place, due to weather, kids are forced to take shelter in bathrooms and tiny cramped closets. As someone who works there, there is no space for a class of more than 20, ESPECIALLY in the upper grades. Yes, our population is Potomac but these kids are still entitled to a free, public education. They are still children and shoving these kids into already at-capacity classes in neighboring schools won't help anyone.


I’m confused. You talk convincingly about the unacceptable conditions CS students endure… but you don’t want them to move to a better school?


They are unacceptable and that is why the school should be renovated. I'd be more than happy if more kids came to CS however, we are at capacity (if not over). We cannot fit all the students in one place ever. If we were under capacity, how does that make sense?


It’s not about the capacity at CS, it’s a question of whether there is space for those 300 students at nearby schools when they redraw boundaries. According to the CIP, there is.


+1. And it would not increase class sizes as more teachers would be allocated based on the increased enrollment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Cold Spring is the third best elementary school in the entire state of Maryland. Why would they close that? Cold Spring’s enrollment goes up every year. Also, why would you want to close ANY school? That would make class sizes at the other schools go up.


Why would closing schools increase class sizes? (It would increase school sizes/utilization rates, but since there's plenty of space to spare that's no problem.) Class sizes are based on the same guidelines no matter the size of your school.

And with declining enrollment and a number of elementary schools likely needing to close in the next decade, why should taxpayers be paying tens of millions of dollars to build or renovate new schools when those kids can just be redistricted to neighboring schools with space?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cold Spring is the third best elementary school in the entire state of Maryland. Why would they close that? Cold Spring’s enrollment goes up every year. Also, why would you want to close ANY school? That would make class sizes at the other schools go up.


Why would closing schools increase class sizes? (It would increase school sizes/utilization rates, but since there's plenty of space to spare that's no problem.) Class sizes are based on the same guidelines no matter the size of your school.

And with declining enrollment and a number of elementary schools likely needing to close in the next decade, why should taxpayers be paying tens of millions of dollars to build or renovate new schools when those kids can just be redistricted to neighboring schools with space?


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Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Piney branch is not in great shape, but it's in better shape than school farther down the list.


Piney Branch families should tell the board they’d like to defer renovation if they like their pool so much.


I don't think the PB families care that much about the pool. It's the Boomers that use it and the Takoma Park City Council that pushed for the pool.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's usually starts west or southwest and moves up west of 270 then over to the northeast-ish then down county. Follw the $ zip codes with $. W = white. W= wealth(ier). W= wacked.


Check the dates... no.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's usually starts west or southwest and moves up west of 270 then over to the northeast-ish then down county. Follw the $ zip codes with $. W = white. W= wealth(ier). W= wacked.


Ignore the lying troll.
Wootton HS and Cold Spring (W elem) are two of the most overdue for renovations


Renovations maybe; but not new schools. Declining enrollment and other schools with capacity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's usually starts west or southwest and moves up west of 270 then over to the northeast-ish then down county. Follw the $ zip codes with $. W = white. W= wealth(ier). W= wacked.


Ignore the lying troll.
Wootton HS and Cold Spring (W elem) are two of the most overdue for renovations


Really, Cold Spring should be closed. All of the Wootton cluster elementaries are well under capacity, and projected to keep decreasing. That money could be better spent on other projects.


Have you stepped foot in Cold Spring? Yes, it is considered "under capacity" but the actual capacity is no where near what it is claimed to be. There is no space for a carpet for kids to sit on for whole group. Much of the "square footage" is literally stairs in the classroom. During a shelter in place, due to weather, kids are forced to take shelter in bathrooms and tiny cramped closets. As someone who works there, there is no space for a class of more than 20, ESPECIALLY in the upper grades. Yes, our population is Potomac but these kids are still entitled to a free, public education. They are still children and shoving these kids into already at-capacity classes in neighboring schools won't help anyone.


I’m confused. You talk convincingly about the unacceptable conditions CS students endure… but you don’t want them to move to a better school?


They are unacceptable and that is why the school should be renovated. I'd be more than happy if more kids came to CS however, we are at capacity (if not over). We cannot fit all the students in one place ever. If we were under capacity, how does that make sense?


It’s not about the capacity at CS, it’s a question of whether there is space for those 300 students at nearby schools when they redraw boundaries. According to the CIP, there is.


exactly! But Julie Yang does not want to anger potential voters and campaign contributors. She'd rather recklessly spend tax-payer money to get elected to the county council than take a fiscally responsible approach.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Piney branch is not in great shape, but it's in better shape than school farther down the list.


Piney Branch families should tell the board they’d like to defer renovation if they like their pool so much.


I don't think the PB families care that much about the pool. It's the Boomers that use it and the Takoma Park City Council that pushed for the pool.


Fine, then TP can pay for the pool, not MCPS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Piney branch is not in great shape, but it's in better shape than school farther down the list.


Piney Branch families should tell the board they’d like to defer renovation if they like their pool so much.


I don't think the PB families care that much about the pool. It's the Boomers that use it and the Takoma Park City Council that pushed for the pool.


Fine, then TP can pay for the pool, not MCPS.

MCPS did not pay for the pool.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Piney branch is not in great shape, but it's in better shape than school farther down the list.


Piney Branch families should tell the board they’d like to defer renovation if they like their pool so much.


I don't think the PB families care that much about the pool. It's the Boomers that use it and the Takoma Park City Council that pushed for the pool.


Fine, then TP can pay for the pool, not MCPS.

MCPS did not pay for the pool.


The pool was included as part of the Piney Branch replacement project the board just approved.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Piney branch is not in great shape, but it's in better shape than school farther down the list.


Piney Branch families should tell the board they’d like to defer renovation if they like their pool so much.


I don't think the PB families care that much about the pool. It's the Boomers that use it and the Takoma Park City Council that pushed for the pool.


The county or local governments run the pool and the county should take over the pool. Its nice to have it in that area as there isn't much there but the hours are very limited. The pool money is the least of the concerns.
Anonymous
Wayside, Dufief and Beverly Farms all have enough space to house all Cold Spring students. Move the CES to one, the in-bounds cold spring kids to another. There is zero need to rebuild that school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wayside, Dufief and Beverly Farms all have enough space to house all Cold Spring students. Move the CES to one, the in-bounds cold spring kids to another. There is zero need to rebuild that school.

Hell not only those but Lakewood, Fallsmead and Stonemill also all have space. Agreed they should move CES to one other school and move the 200 or so Cold Spring kids to another perhaps shoddy f lines a bit elsewhere
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