Least pre-professional schools without being a grind

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I think they all attract kids who don’t mind a grind.
Anonymous
University of Rochester would be great for a kid like this if the tougher admits don’t work out and he’d likely get good merit.
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Anonymous wrote:St Olaf
Grinnell
Macalester
Whitman
Wooster
Lewis and Clark


Have visited all of these schools. I don't think Wooster and Lewis and Clark are quite where the others are academically or in terms of resources, though I did appreciate them both for different reasons, and wouldn't hesitate to recommend them to the right kid.

FWIW, Grinnell and Whitman are both on the list of top 50 feeder schools (per capita) to Ph.D. programs in both physics and mathematics (as are Reed and Carleton, so good choices there!). I know both Grinnell and Whitman pretty well; if Carleton and Reed hit a sweet spot, it's definitely worth making a trip to check out these two. Note that Whitman does have some Greek life, but it is not like the stereotype -- parties are very open, the kids are friendly, doesn't feel exclusive or elite.

If you visit Whitman from Reed, it will feel farther away than it actually is, because from Portland you have to drive several hours east to get there. As a student, they can fly to the Tri-Cities airport (there are affordable, 1-stop flights from DCA), which is much closer to campus.

Do check out St. Olaf while you're in Northfield. Campus is lovely, the students are so, so friendly, and I was impressed with their resources. And if it matters, their merit aid might make them half the price of Carleton -- quite literally. They're on the top Ph.D./math list, too.
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Anonymous wrote:Amherst is extremely unpreprofessional, to the extent that people look down on students interested in finance/consulting


This is not at all true. My daughter is a senior math major who loves pure math and the vast majority of the math majors are planning to go into finance. Her cohort of true “math nerds” is fewer than 10.
Anonymous
Someone already said this, but I have a student at Tufts and it really could fit if the smaller, more remote liberal arts schools aren't a fit. Really a SLAC with an engineering and med school attached - really strong research opportunities for undergrads. Straight "NARP" males not an endangered species if that's of any concern. Econ students tend to have come for the strong International relations or policy programs, not finance or consulting.
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Rochester, Tufts, Vassar, Grinnell. I think Brown in the era of the admissions arms race has actually gone a bit more normie.
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Anonymous wrote:Wesleyan. As mentioned in other threads, there’s big overlap with Brown. Lots of research opportunities. Not at all preprofessional. Bigger than most SLACs (3000 undergrads and a few hundred grad students).


agree it’s a safety for many Brown kids - just about half of the kids my DC knee at Wes applied and were rejected by Brown. A step down from other schools mentioned. If he’s not an athlete not a fun place for a straight male for 4 years


Wesleyan not a safety for anyone. And you have no idea what this OP’s identity is, but the whole “not fun for straight male non-athletes” is just not true. I suspect you don’t have personal experience with the school and are just regurgitating stereotypes.

OP, I do have a kid there, and it aligns beautifully with everything you’ve mentioned your kid is looking for. Hope you check it out.


Different Wes parent here. This poster loves to shit post about the school (certainly not a safety for any applicant). I actually think this is the mom who complains about her MAGA lax bro son being “persecuted” as an athlete there. Kid was probably a menace. Anyway, agree that Wes meets OP’s interests and would encourage them to ignore the trite stereotypes that get parroted about the school on this board. Lots of types of kids on campus with varied interests. Plenty of ways to fit in and find community.
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Anonymous wrote:University of Rochester


+1

Really great target for a high stats kid, and it checks all of your boxes.
Anonymous
OP, Brown is filled with kids gunning for Finance.
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Anonymous wrote:Ask on college confidential, you may get more insight over there. My kid is at Brown, does a lot of math/APMA. His other favorite smaller school was Swarthmore. He absolutely loved it. On our tour, the guide actually talked about the culture, and it didn't sound horrible (grind-wise) the way other schools we visited were...CMU, for instance. It came across as bright kids who are hard workers but also like to have fun. Maybe worth checking out and decide for yourself. The kids we know who have gone there absolutely loved it. Check out Kalamazoo as a safety for Carleton- trimester system, strong STEM and really nice kids, and in a fun city with lots going on.


What's exactly happening in cold Kzoo? Ugh


It's very much a college town, given that WMU is there, so there's more stuff -- that college kids would enjoy anyway -- going on there than you might think.
Anonymous
Davidson fits the bill
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Anonymous wrote:Amherst is extremely unpreprofessional, to the extent that people look down on students interested in finance/consulting



Those fields are ruining society. It’s reasonable criticism.
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Anonymous wrote:OP, Brown is filled with kids gunning for Finance.


Every top30 school is.
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Anonymous wrote:OP, Brown is filled with kids gunning for Finance.


Every top30 school is.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:Carleton 100% fits your descriptions.


Not if you want a politically balanced (in any way) environment. Carleton is crazy woke. DD had a miserable time there.
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