What If I Told You The Regional Model Isn’t About Advanced Academics?

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With the cost of some of these colleges these days - doesn’t it make sense to try and direct some kids towards other career choices? I respect the hell out of electricians and plumbers - much more so than people in “policy” that got a degree from a private uni

[Anonymous]

This is a good thing and makes complete sense. We need to be training people for all jobs, not just white collar jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course the regional model isn't about advanced academics. That's not rocket science. But I also don't think it's about the conspiracy theory you present here. And it doesn't matter frankly what we think--it's pretty obvious that MCPS is going to move forward with this bad plan no matter what the impact is.

Reading this and the other thread about dismantling the MS magnet makes me wonder: the latter might likely be just another step to push the regional model to the MS level as they can't figure out plans for regional MS magnets under the name of "academic excellence", so let's just destroy every existing acceleration avenue at MS level.

All of these are just to push more segregation and inequity. The wealthy and/or resourceful family will still accelerate and enrich their children with outside-classroom resources. The poor and family-in-the-unknown realm will be left further behind from ES level and it will be too late to try to catch at HS level.

I agree. It will matter more than ever what your home school is.

Yeah, I have a recollection from a couple years ago that San Fran tried to implement Algebra 1 only available starting in 9th grade to be equitable. Until they realized that if they did that, the parents with resources would get instruction outside of school. So San Fran dropped that proposal.

Waiting for MCPS to have that revelation...

Algebra at 9th is way behind most countries in this world.

What does this have to do with MCPS? They are saying every school should offer at least up to Calculus BC so it looks like they are expecting some kids at every school to come into high school with Algebra 1

Just commenting on the San Francisco equity policy. If most school districts try the same for the sake of equity, US will be the dumbest country in the world.

Okay? This is a thread about MCPS's regional program proposal.

Okay? This is a free forum and I’m commenting on the PP’s post. Are you policing what can be said and what can not be said here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With the cost of some of these colleges these days - doesn’t it make sense to try and direct some kids towards other career choices? I respect the hell out of electricians and plumbers - much more so than people in “policy” that got a degree from a private uni

Kids should not be forced to do this just because the blueprint has an arbitrary goal.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is not turning the programs into magnets. They are expanding magnets AND interest based programs and if they are smart putting some criteria and evaluation measures around all programs (local or centrally managed). Will that align with the goals of the Blueprint? Yes. How is this a problem?

Students can gain real world skills and make choices about career/college decisions. Example: Kod does a science program, gets a Pharmacy Tech certificate. Goes to college to get a Pharmacy and is able to have a job during the school year.

I swear ya’ll are just finding reasons to be against progress.

Fight for great implementation. Fight for quality teacher training. Fight for proactive recruitment. Fight for course and program evaluation.

Where does the new regional model talk about their course and program evaluation? I don't recall this has been mentioned ever by far.

And kudos for you to work on Sunday morning, CO staff. Do you get a bonus?

So anyone who doesn't agree with your conspiracy theories, your wacko ideas is a CO staff?
DP

You didn't address my question: where is the course and program evaluation plan and timeline? Your writing style really sells you out.

As the original poster of the comment and not the PP you are responding, no I don’t work for CO. I do agree with the PP’s statement, that just because people disagree with you doesn’t mean they work for CO or MCPS at all. There are other concerned parents in the district with other ideas. Maybe if you took that into consideration you’d understand the point of my initial post, which is to say that expanding access to program is not a problem. What parents should be aligned in fighting for is being sure that implementation of the expansion is done well. And that requires understanding what is wrong now, good implementation planning, and a plan for evaluations once done.

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Anonymous wrote:With the cost of some of these colleges these days - doesn’t it make sense to try and direct some kids towards other career choices? I respect the hell out of electricians and plumbers - much more so than people in “policy” that got a degree from a private uni

No! The school’s job is not to direct kids towards a career path. It is to provide a high quality education with exposure to the many career fields out there and then listen to the kid and family as they select a career. This mean that being a plumber should be celebrated just a much as being a teacher just as much as being a doctor. All are needed in society.

[Anonymous]

Why OP mad that someone else's kid might get a good skilled job?

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Anonymous wrote:Of course the regional model isn't about advanced academics. That's not rocket science. But I also don't think it's about the conspiracy theory you present here. And it doesn't matter frankly what we think--it's pretty obvious that MCPS is going to move forward with this bad plan no matter what the impact is.

Reading this and the other thread about dismantling the MS magnet makes me wonder: the latter might likely be just another step to push the regional model to the MS level as they can't figure out plans for regional MS magnets under the name of "academic excellence", so let's just destroy every existing acceleration avenue at MS level.

All of these are just to push more segregation and inequity. The wealthy and/or resourceful family will still accelerate and enrich their children with outside-classroom resources. The poor and family-in-the-unknown realm will be left further behind from ES level and it will be too late to try to catch at HS level.

I agree. It will matter more than ever what your home school is.

Yeah, I have a recollection from a couple years ago that San Fran tried to implement Algebra 1 only available starting in 9th grade to be equitable. Until they realized that if they did that, the parents with resources would get instruction outside of school. So San Fran dropped that proposal.

Waiting for MCPS to have that revelation...

Algebra at 9th is way behind most countries in this world.

What does this have to do with MCPS? They are saying every school should offer at least up to Calculus BC so it looks like they are expecting some kids at every school to come into high school with Algebra 1

Just commenting on the San Francisco equity policy. If most school districts try the same for the sake of equity, US will be the dumbest country in the world.

Okay? This is a thread about MCPS's regional program proposal.

Okay? This is a free forum and I’m commenting on the PP’s post. Are you policing what can be said and what can not be said here?

You can say whatever you want and I can point out it is off topic. Do you have a problem with me pointing that out? Sounds like you are the one doing the policing.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course the regional model isn't about advanced academics. That's not rocket science. But I also don't think it's about the conspiracy theory you present here. And it doesn't matter frankly what we think--it's pretty obvious that MCPS is going to move forward with this bad plan no matter what the impact is.

Reading this and the other thread about dismantling the MS magnet makes me wonder: the latter might likely be just another step to push the regional model to the MS level as they can't figure out plans for regional MS magnets under the name of "academic excellence", so let's just destroy every existing acceleration avenue at MS level.

All of these are just to push more segregation and inequity. The wealthy and/or resourceful family will still accelerate and enrich their children with outside-classroom resources. The poor and family-in-the-unknown realm will be left further behind from ES level and it will be too late to try to catch at HS level.

I agree. It will matter more than ever what your home school is.

Yeah, I have a recollection from a couple years ago that San Fran tried to implement Algebra 1 only available starting in 9th grade to be equitable. Until they realized that if they did that, the parents with resources would get instruction outside of school. So San Fran dropped that proposal.

Waiting for MCPS to have that revelation...

Algebra at 9th is way behind most countries in this world.

What does this have to do with MCPS? They are saying every school should offer at least up to Calculus BC so it looks like they are expecting some kids at every school to come into high school with Algebra 1

Just commenting on the San Francisco equity policy. If most school districts try the same for the sake of equity, US will be the dumbest country in the world.

Okay? This is a thread about MCPS's regional program proposal.

Okay? This is a free forum and I’m commenting on the PP’s post. Are you policing what can be said and what can not be said here?

You can say whatever you want and I can point out it is off topic. Do you have a problem with me pointing that out? Sounds like you are the one doing the policing.

It’s not off topic as MCPS does the same of reducing the number of students for compact math and slowing down their math learning for the sake of equity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With the cost of some of these colleges these days - doesn’t it make sense to try and direct some kids towards other career choices? I respect the hell out of electricians and plumbers - much more so than people in “policy” that got a degree from a private uni

No! The school’s job is not to direct kids towards a career path. It is to provide a high quality education with exposure to the many career fields out there and then listen to the kid and family as they select a career. This mean that being a plumber should be celebrated just a much as being a teacher just as much as being a doctor. All are needed in society.

A good plumber will go to college or get an AA degree in business to know how to run a business well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Of course the regional model isn't about advanced academics. That's not rocket science. But I also don't think it's about the conspiracy theory you present here. And it doesn't matter frankly what we think--it's pretty obvious that MCPS is going to move forward with this bad plan no matter what the impact is.

Reading this and the other thread about dismantling the MS magnet makes me wonder: the latter might likely be just another step to push the regional model to the MS level as they can't figure out plans for regional MS magnets under the name of "academic excellence", so let's just destroy every existing acceleration avenue at MS level.

All of these are just to push more segregation and inequity. The wealthy and/or resourceful family will still accelerate and enrich their children with outside-classroom resources. The poor and family-in-the-unknown realm will be left further behind from ES level and it will be too late to try to catch at HS level.

The current model promotes college readiness for all. It is a fact that many (perhaps up to half) kids are not capable of true college level academics. The kids in MCPS who could not live up to these goals were generally just socially promoted and graduated with limited skills and capacities to support themselves. Putting more career options in place for these kids does not push segregation and inequity. (Hint: a teenager arriving in the US with no English skills and extremely limited education is not going to go to college - this is not segregation or inequity, this is the reality of all previous generations of immigrants.) Their own parents acknowledge this and still thought sending them here was worth it. I'm afraid that your political beliefs blind you to rational thought.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course the regional model isn't about advanced academics. That's not rocket science. But I also don't think it's about the conspiracy theory you present here. And it doesn't matter frankly what we think--it's pretty obvious that MCPS is going to move forward with this bad plan no matter what the impact is.

Reading this and the other thread about dismantling the MS magnet makes me wonder: the latter might likely be just another step to push the regional model to the MS level as they can't figure out plans for regional MS magnets under the name of "academic excellence", so let's just destroy every existing acceleration avenue at MS level.

All of these are just to push more segregation and inequity. The wealthy and/or resourceful family will still accelerate and enrich their children with outside-classroom resources. The poor and family-in-the-unknown realm will be left further behind from ES level and it will be too late to try to catch at HS level.

I agree. It will matter more than ever what your home school is.

Yeah, I have a recollection from a couple years ago that San Fran tried to implement Algebra 1 only available starting in 9th grade to be equitable. Until they realized that if they did that, the parents with resources would get instruction outside of school. So San Fran dropped that proposal.

Waiting for MCPS to have that revelation...

Algebra at 9th is way behind most countries in this world.

What does this have to do with MCPS? They are saying every school should offer at least up to Calculus BC so it looks like they are expecting some kids at every school to come into high school with Algebra 1

Just commenting on the San Francisco equity policy. If most school districts try the same for the sake of equity, US will be the dumbest country in the world.

Okay? This is a thread about MCPS's regional program proposal.

Okay? This is a free forum and I’m commenting on the PP’s post. Are you policing what can be said and what can not be said here?

You can say whatever you want and I can point out it is off topic. Do you have a problem with me pointing that out? Sounds like you are the one doing the policing.

It’s not off topic as MCPS does the same of reducing the number of students for compact math and slowing down their math learning for the sake of equity.

They also don't provide advanced math at most schools, so part of slowing it down is because there are not enough classes to graduate. Its also seperate but "equal" without being equal as the W schools and BCC and a select few have advanced classes while the other school only have the absolute minimum.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course the regional model isn't about advanced academics. That's not rocket science. But I also don't think it's about the conspiracy theory you present here. And it doesn't matter frankly what we think--it's pretty obvious that MCPS is going to move forward with this bad plan no matter what the impact is.

Reading this and the other thread about dismantling the MS magnet makes me wonder: the latter might likely be just another step to push the regional model to the MS level as they can't figure out plans for regional MS magnets under the name of "academic excellence", so let's just destroy every existing acceleration avenue at MS level.

All of these are just to push more segregation and inequity. The wealthy and/or resourceful family will still accelerate and enrich their children with outside-classroom resources. The poor and family-in-the-unknown realm will be left further behind from ES level and it will be too late to try to catch at HS level.

I agree. It will matter more than ever what your home school is.

Yeah, I have a recollection from a couple years ago that San Fran tried to implement Algebra 1 only available starting in 9th grade to be equitable. Until they realized that if they did that, the parents with resources would get instruction outside of school. So San Fran dropped that proposal.

Waiting for MCPS to have that revelation...

Algebra at 9th is way behind most countries in this world.

What does this have to do with MCPS? They are saying every school should offer at least up to Calculus BC so it looks like they are expecting some kids at every school to come into high school with Algebra 1

Just commenting on the San Francisco equity policy. If most school districts try the same for the sake of equity, US will be the dumbest country in the world.

Okay? This is a thread about MCPS's regional program proposal.

Okay? This is a free forum and I’m commenting on the PP’s post. Are you policing what can be said and what can not be said here?

You can say whatever you want and I can point out it is off topic. Do you have a problem with me pointing that out? Sounds like you are the one doing the policing.

It’s not off topic as MCPS does the same of reducing the number of students for compact math and slowing down their math learning for the sake of equity.

They also don't provide advanced math at most schools, so part of slowing it down is because there are not enough classes to graduate. Its also seperate but "equal" without being equal as the W schools and BCC and a select few have advanced classes while the other school only have the absolute minimum.

What specific classes are you talking about? Do some schools not have Calculus BC? Is this just about multivariable calculus?

On a side note, if a student takes MVC in high school do they have to retake it in college since there's no AP MVC?

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Anonymous wrote:Of course the regional model isn't about advanced academics. That's not rocket science. But I also don't think it's about the conspiracy theory you present here. And it doesn't matter frankly what we think--it's pretty obvious that MCPS is going to move forward with this bad plan no matter what the impact is.

Reading this and the other thread about dismantling the MS magnet makes me wonder: the latter might likely be just another step to push the regional model to the MS level as they can't figure out plans for regional MS magnets under the name of "academic excellence", so let's just destroy every existing acceleration avenue at MS level.

All of these are just to push more segregation and inequity. The wealthy and/or resourceful family will still accelerate and enrich their children with outside-classroom resources. The poor and family-in-the-unknown realm will be left further behind from ES level and it will be too late to try to catch at HS level.

I agree. It will matter more than ever what your home school is.

Yeah, I have a recollection from a couple years ago that San Fran tried to implement Algebra 1 only available starting in 9th grade to be equitable. Until they realized that if they did that, the parents with resources would get instruction outside of school. So San Fran dropped that proposal.

Waiting for MCPS to have that revelation...

Algebra at 9th is way behind most countries in this world.

What does this have to do with MCPS? They are saying every school should offer at least up to Calculus BC so it looks like they are expecting some kids at every school to come into high school with Algebra 1

Just commenting on the San Francisco equity policy. If most school districts try the same for the sake of equity, US will be the dumbest country in the world.

Okay? This is a thread about MCPS's regional program proposal.

Okay? This is a free forum and I’m commenting on the PP’s post. Are you policing what can be said and what can not be said here?

You can say whatever you want and I can point out it is off topic. Do you have a problem with me pointing that out? Sounds like you are the one doing the policing.

It’s not off topic as MCPS does the same of reducing the number of students for compact math and slowing down their math learning for the sake of equity.

They also don't provide advanced math at most schools, so part of slowing it down is because there are not enough classes to graduate. It’s also seperate but "equal" without being equal as the W schools and BCC and a select few have advanced classes while the other school only have the absolute minimum.

Even at W ES, I’ve noticed that the number of students in compact math in one of my children’s grades is significantly lower than in my other child’s year. The numbers seem to be decreasing across the board.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course the regional model isn't about advanced academics. That's not rocket science. But I also don't think it's about the conspiracy theory you present here. And it doesn't matter frankly what we think--it's pretty obvious that MCPS is going to move forward with this bad plan no matter what the impact is.

Reading this and the other thread about dismantling the MS magnet makes me wonder: the latter might likely be just another step to push the regional model to the MS level as they can't figure out plans for regional MS magnets under the name of "academic excellence", so let's just destroy every existing acceleration avenue at MS level.

All of these are just to push more segregation and inequity. The wealthy and/or resourceful family will still accelerate and enrich their children with outside-classroom resources. The poor and family-in-the-unknown realm will be left further behind from ES level and it will be too late to try to catch at HS level.

The current model promotes college readiness for all. It is a fact that many (perhaps up to half) kids are not capable of true college level academics. The kids in MCPS who could not live up to these goals were generally just socially promoted and graduated with limited skills and capacities to support themselves. Putting more career options in place for these kids does not push segregation and inequity. (Hint: a teenager arriving in the US with no English skills and extremely limited education is not going to go to college - this is not segregation or inequity, this is the reality of all previous generations of immigrants.) Their own parents acknowledge this and still thought sending them here was worth it. I'm afraid that your political beliefs blind you to rational thought.

Sounds like you're in favor of racial profiling since you can't seem to fathom the notion of a white kid not going to college in this day and age.