Do you blame the team’s goalie when they lose?

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On a similar note, mom's, before you think your kid is a goal scoring machine, take into account goalies at this age don't stop many shots. Your kid will face great goalies eventually.

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Anonymous wrote:That is really obnoxious - they have to get through 10 other kids before they reach the goalie.

Nine, actually. This thread is playing to all the negative stereotypes about lacrosse Moms. I think it has run its course.

[Anonymous]

To any parent or kid questioning a goalie, jump in the cage yourself.

[Anonymous]

Especially in lacrosse. Our son goes from hockey where he stops 93% of shots to lacrosse where it could be 40% is a good day

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Anonymous wrote:Clueless parent but if he and she the goalie is going going 0-7 or 0-8 it isn’t the team.

How is it not on the team to score and level it up? The team has to score too.

lol this post is obviously about saves vs shots. Not the score of the game.

Goalies are going to face shots. Acting like a team should hold their opponents shotless is not a helpful discussion. It’s very possible that it is the goalies fault.

That is HIGHLY unlikely, and is ridiculous for a parent to say in public at any level.

If it were me I would shut that parent up myself. I would also talk to the coach and let them know we would find somewhere else to play or something else to do with our time if that down stop.

Worst comes to worst, coach agrees with parent and maybe your kid should switch to Middy. Then they can deal with finding another goalie

Number of shots is a sign that your team's ride and defense aren't holding up their end of the bargain. Save rate could be one of two things: (i) the shots that are being taken are good and hard to defend (e.g., breakaways and crease cranks) or (ii) the goalie isn't good (a very strong college goalie, at least on the girls side with which I'm more familiar, saves 50 to 60%).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On a similar note, mom's, before you think your kid is a goal scoring machine, take into account goalies at this age don't stop many shots. Your kid will face great goalies eventually.

Even at a top college like Maryland it’s 50 percent save.

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Anonymous wrote:Clueless parent but if he and she the goalie is going going 0-7 or 0-8 it isn’t the team.

How is it not on the team to score and level it up? The team has to score too.

lol this post is obviously about saves vs shots. Not the score of the game.

Goalies are going to face shots. Acting like a team should hold their opponents shotless is not a helpful discussion. It’s very possible that it is the goalies fault.

That is HIGHLY unlikely, and is ridiculous for a parent to say in public at any level.

If it were me I would shut that parent up myself. I would also talk to the coach and let them know we would find somewhere else to play or something else to do with our time if that down stop.

Worst comes to worst, coach agrees with parent and maybe your kid should switch to Middy. Then they can deal with finding another goalie

Number of shots is a sign that your team's ride and defense aren't holding up their end of the bargain. Save rate could be one of two things: (i) the shots that are being taken are good and hard to defend (e.g., breakaways and crease cranks) or (ii) the goalie isn't good (a very strong college goalie, at least on the girls side with which I'm more familiar, saves 50 to 60%).

Right. My posts weren't arguing that, and I agree with you. All I am saying is that people are telling their kids that no goals that go in are ever the goalies fault, because there are teammates who should have stopped the other team from shooting. That's not a realistic take and is setting the kids up for failure.

And btw to bring this all back full circle, I bet the lady who is complaining has a son that makes all sorts of mistakes. Just like all 5th graders to. I would complain loudly every time he drops a pass, takes a bad shot, or turns the ball over.

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Anonymous wrote:Clueless parent but if he and she the goalie is going going 0-7 or 0-8 it isn’t the team.

How is it not on the team to score and level it up? The team has to score too.

lol this post is obviously about saves vs shots. Not the score of the game.

Goalies are going to face shots. Acting like a team should hold their opponents shotless is not a helpful discussion. It’s very possible that it is the goalies fault.

That is HIGHLY unlikely, and is ridiculous for a parent to say in public at any level.

If it were me I would shut that parent up myself. I would also talk to the coach and let them know we would find somewhere else to play or something else to do with our time if that down stop.

Worst comes to worst, coach agrees with parent and maybe your kid should switch to Middy. Then they can deal with finding another goalie

Number of shots is a sign that your team's ride and defense aren't holding up their end of the bargain. Save rate could be one of two things: (i) the shots that are being taken are good and hard to defend (e.g., breakaways and crease cranks) or (ii) the goalie isn't good (a very strong college goalie, at least on the girls side with which I'm more familiar, saves 50 to 60%).

Right. My posts weren't arguing that, and I agree with you. All I am saying is that people are telling their kids that no goals that go in are ever the goalies fault, because there are teammates who should have stopped the other team from shooting. That's not a realistic take and is setting the kids up for failure.

And btw to bring this all back full circle, I bet the lady who is complaining has a son that makes all sorts of mistakes. Just like all 5th graders to. I would complain loudly every time he drops a pass, takes a bad shot, or turns the ball over.

I have a senior goalie, D3 commit, no one is more likely to hold a goalie responsible than the goalie herself. I definitely came to words with parents (often of lazy defenders) who loudly blamed my kid for goals. Her job - not theirs.

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Anonymous wrote:Clueless parent but if he and she the goalie is going going 0-7 or 0-8 it isn’t the team.

How is it not on the team to score and level it up? The team has to score too.

lol this post is obviously about saves vs shots. Not the score of the game.

Goalies are going to face shots. Acting like a team should hold their opponents shotless is not a helpful discussion. It’s very possible that it is the goalies fault.

That is HIGHLY unlikely, and is ridiculous for a parent to say in public at any level.

If it were me I would shut that parent up myself. I would also talk to the coach and let them know we would find somewhere else to play or something else to do with our time if that down stop.

Worst comes to worst, coach agrees with parent and maybe your kid should switch to Middy. Then they can deal with finding another goalie

Number of shots is a sign that your team's ride and defense aren't holding up their end of the bargain. Save rate could be one of two things: (i) the shots that are being taken are good and hard to defend (e.g., breakaways and crease cranks) or (ii) the goalie isn't good (a very strong college goalie, at least on the girls side with which I'm more familiar, saves 50 to 60%).

Right. My posts weren't arguing that, and I agree with you. All I am saying is that people are telling their kids that no goals that go in are ever the goalies fault, because there are teammates who should have stopped the other team from shooting. That's not a realistic take and is setting the kids up for failure.

And btw to bring this all back full circle, I bet the lady who is complaining has a son that makes all sorts of mistakes. Just like all 5th graders to. I would complain loudly every time he drops a pass, takes a bad shot, or turns the ball over.

I have a senior goalie, D3 commit, no one is more likely to hold a goalie responsible than the goalie herself. I definitely came to words with parents (often of lazy defenders) who loudly blamed my kid for goals. Her job - not theirs.

Calling the defenders "lazy?" This is just as bad.

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Anonymous wrote:Clueless parent but if he and she the goalie is going going 0-7 or 0-8 it isn’t the team.

How is it not on the team to score and level it up? The team has to score too.

lol this post is obviously about saves vs shots. Not the score of the game.

Goalies are going to face shots. Acting like a team should hold their opponents shotless is not a helpful discussion. It’s very possible that it is the goalies fault.

That is HIGHLY unlikely, and is ridiculous for a parent to say in public at any level.

If it were me I would shut that parent up myself. I would also talk to the coach and let them know we would find somewhere else to play or something else to do with our time if that down stop.

Worst comes to worst, coach agrees with parent and maybe your kid should switch to Middy. Then they can deal with finding another goalie

Number of shots is a sign that your team's ride and defense aren't holding up their end of the bargain. Save rate could be one of two things: (i) the shots that are being taken are good and hard to defend (e.g., breakaways and crease cranks) or (ii) the goalie isn't good (a very strong college goalie, at least on the girls side with which I'm more familiar, saves 50 to 60%).

Right. My posts weren't arguing that, and I agree with you. All I am saying is that people are telling their kids that no goals that go in are ever the goalies fault, because there are teammates who should have stopped the other team from shooting. That's not a realistic take and is setting the kids up for failure.

And btw to bring this all back full circle, I bet the lady who is complaining has a son that makes all sorts of mistakes. Just like all 5th graders to. I would complain loudly every time he drops a pass, takes a bad shot, or turns the ball over.

I have a senior goalie, D3 commit, no one is more likely to hold a goalie responsible than the goalie herself. I definitely came to words with parents (often of lazy defenders) who loudly blamed my kid for goals. Her job - not theirs.

Calling the defenders "lazy?" This is just as bad.

Didn't call them lazy to the parents' face. Just an observation.

[Anonymous]

Parents criticizing a goalie out loud, in a group is totally beyond the pale. I thought the OP was trolling before I read the question. My daughter has played for and against clubs with allegedly "crazy parents" for years. I have NEVER seen this. Even at tournaments where we had two goalies and one was lights out (8 saves on 11 shots) and one was not seeing it well that day (9 goals on 10 shots). No one would dare criticize. Toughest job on the field, and a goal given up is inevitably a team fail.

[Anonymous]

Question: Do you blame the team’s goalie when they lose?

Answer: Yes

[Anonymous]

Blaming the goalie for a loss is an important coping skill that all parents and players are wise to develop. Just don't say it out loud unless you are in discreet company.

[Anonymous]

Please stop!
you all sound like such losers. just stop.

[Anonymous]

Just start blaming the offense for not outscoring the other team. Any game you lose is because the other team scored more than your team. They need to get better.