harvard won?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Just like the law firms that capitulated easily, the schools that settled with Trump are looking like absolute cowards.


I don't think this is right. Different issues. Colleges are f'd. They actually have violated the law.
Anonymous
Fed judge ruled in favor of Harvard, said Trump was using antisemitism as a smokescreen for illegal overreaching.

Correct result!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just like the law firms that capitulated easily, the schools that settled with Trump are looking like absolute cowards.


Eh, sometimes it is better to settle lawsuits. They don’t look like cowards…event though they were also in the right.

They absolutely did and still do look like cowards.


Not really. It is not that kind of issue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just like the law firms that capitulated easily, the schools that settled with Trump are looking like absolute cowards.


This is different.

They don't have a right to federal funding, especially if they have been racist.


Trump did not take away hundreds of millions of research funding because Harvard had been racist. He alleged anti-semitism and the (Jewish) judge found the link between those accusations and taking away research funding not justifiable.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Judge invalidates Trump admin’s Harvard funding freeze


The judge is Alison Burroughs. She always rules in Harvard's favor.

She is the one that ruled that Harvard wasn't discriminating against Asians in the face of obvious discrimination against Asians.

This ruling will be appealed and the first circuit will also rule in Harvard's favor and then it will go to the Supreme Court where they will settle the matter.


And that ruling was held up on appeal and was not included as part of the final appeal to the Supreme Court. And the issue decided by the Supreme Court had nothin to do with that finding.


She was still clearly wrong and engaged in contorted reasoning to get to her conclusion.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I've learned to always temper any excitement with rulings involving Trump. He'll appeal, and the appeallate court will side with him. Happened many times already. This "win" might be heading that way in a few days. Sad.


Especially with SCOTUS who just rubber stamps anything he hands them


Well, let's hope they do so again in this case.
If our democracy cannot condemn racism then perhaps we don't deserve democracy.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just like the law firms that capitulated easily, the schools that settled with Trump are looking like absolute cowards.


Eh, sometimes it is better to settle lawsuits. They don’t look like cowards…event though they were also in the right.

They absolutely did and still do look like cowards.


Anticipatory obedience to authoritarian overreach benefits no university. It’s too bad the universities didn’t band together once Trump started his illegal actions and resist uniformly. Instead Columbia caved, Brown caved and now Trump is going after every uni from George Mason to Northwestern to Duke.


Band together and do what? Starve together?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Judge invalidates Trump admin’s Harvard funding freeze


The judge is Alison Burroughs. She always rules in Harvard's favor.

She is the one that ruled that Harvard wasn't discriminating against Asians in the face of obvious discrimination against Asians.

This ruling will be appealed and the first circuit will also rule in Harvard's favor and then it will go to the Supreme Court where they will settle the matter.

Don't you ever get tired of being so easily proven wrong?

Harvard sued its insurance firm, the Zurich American Insurance Company, in September 2021, arguing that the firm’s refusal to cover its legal fees violated a contract between the two sides.

But on Wednesday, Judge Allison D. Burroughs sided with the insurance firm, rejecting Harvard’s argument that it did not have to notify the company of its widely-covered Students For Fair Admissions lawsuit. The ruling will force the school to pay the fees it incurred over eight years of litigation in the case.


Oopsie on your part.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2022/11/3/sffa-insurer-ruling/


Making an insurance company pay litigation costs does nothing to advance the woke agenda.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Fed judge ruled in favor of Harvard, said Trump was using antisemitism as a smokescreen for illegal overreaching.

Correct result!


What do you think SCOTUS will say?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just like the law firms that capitulated easily, the schools that settled with Trump are looking like absolute cowards.


This is different.

They don't have a right to federal funding, especially if they have been racist.


Trump did not take away hundreds of millions of research funding because Harvard had been racist. He alleged anti-semitism and the (Jewish) judge found the link between those accusations and taking away research funding not justifiable.


Yeah because jews never support anti-semites, amirite?

We will see what SCOTUS thinks about withdrawing federal funding from a racist anti-semitic institution like harvard.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just like the law firms that capitulated easily, the schools that settled with Trump are looking like absolute cowards.


Eh, sometimes it is better to settle lawsuits. They don’t look like cowards…event though they were also in the right.

They absolutely did and still do look like cowards.


Anticipatory obedience to authoritarian overreach benefits no university. It’s too bad the universities didn’t band together once Trump started his illegal actions and resist uniformly. Instead Columbia caved, Brown caved and now Trump is going after every uni from George Mason to Northwestern to Duke.


Band together and do what? Starve together?


Trump is far less likely to beat a united resistance of universities that all are setting the same line in the sand. some principles are worth fighting.

Big Law firms should have done the same but I guess we all know they mostly care about making a buck and not legal principles.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just like the law firms that capitulated easily, the schools that settled with Trump are looking like absolute cowards.


I don't think this is right. Different issues. Colleges are f'd. They actually have violated the law.


That's your opinion. And a wrong one at that. People who actually know something about the law disagree, including the judge on this case, and she has the only opinion that matters.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just like the law firms that capitulated easily, the schools that settled with Trump are looking like absolute cowards.


This is different.

They don't have a right to federal funding, especially if they have been racist.


Trump did not take away hundreds of millions of research funding because Harvard had been racist. He alleged anti-semitism and the (Jewish) judge found the link between those accusations and taking away research funding not justifiable.


Yeah because jews never support anti-semites, amirite?

We will see what SCOTUS thinks about withdrawing federal funding from a racist anti-semitic institution like harvard.


Anonymous
Harvard may have won in court yesterday, but that ruling only protects current grants. Going forward, agencies can simply choose not to award new money. Over time, losing access to fresh grants will hurt far more than the short-term win they just secured.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Harvard may have won in court yesterday, but that ruling only protects current grants. Going forward, agencies can simply choose not to award new money. Over time, losing access to fresh grants will hurt far more than the short-term win they just secured.


Well, there's a few recent data points indicating that the voters are actually not impressed with some of the choices made by the Trump administration. It remains to be seen whether this crapping all over science research is permanent or temporary.
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