Honest thoughts on all women’s colleges?

[Anonymous]

NP: OP, you should ask your DD if she would consider even consider a women’s college. I graduated from Mount Holyoke and was a transfer from a Co-Ed. I transfer there specifically because it was an all women’s college. I am not a lesbian, nor was I “questioning”. But previous posts are correct that there is probably a higher percentage of lesbian or bisexual students at all women’s colleges. That was never a problem and people’s preferences were considered to be their own prerogative. The biggest benefit for me was that I found my “voice” at a women’s college. I often wanted leadership positions in HS and early in college, but always let others (particularly boys/men) kind of talk over me or take over. I gained a lot of confidence while there. With that said, many of the students at MHC were already confident and well accomplished before college and continued with that. But they were more than willing to help bring me up rather than push me down. This was my own experience and I enjoyed every second I spent at MHC… I wish I had spent all 4 years there. Good luck in the college search.

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Anonymous wrote:Wellesley the only one I would consider (considering my grandmother and spouse are both alums), historically the most elite.

However, these institutions have changed quite a bit in recent years and are now increasingly dominated by foreign students, FGLI cases, and crazed liberal LGBTQ+ or race grievance types. They simply don't draw from the same social strata they used to.

The traditional rule for Harvard men was "Lesley to bed, Wellesley to wed, and Radcliffe to talk to." Wellesley and the other 7 sisters used to educate the most intelligent, accomplished and desirable women in America. After many decades of the ravages of co-education and liberalism, that is no longer the case.

Probably best to pass them up and look into SEC schools with a strong sorority scene.

I’d love for you to possibly draw the line between the “ruined” status of women’s colleges (which is dubious, at best) and liberalism.

[Anonymous]

with male college enrollment in decline, pretty much all universities will become all-women's college

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Anonymous wrote:Worked at one for many years. I dont know why anyone would send their kid there other than the academic rigor, which is true for any coed school as well.

What aspects of it make it confusing to you?

Where did I say I was confused?

Einstein, what makes it so that you can’t understand why anyone would send their kids to one? It’s pretty obvious what I asked.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Scripps and Barnard are fine because you are part of a larger co-ed population of college students, but I don't really want my girls to go to a women's college (and they don't either). I work in a male-dominated field and I think being able to work with men on projects and even compete with them is going to be important for most women in the working world. I also think that alumni networks are important and unfortunately a lot of the people who are in a position of power and can open doors for you will be men and not women. Finally, a lot of people who live in my affluent community met their significant others in college (even if they did not date until some time after college) and I think meeting the right person is hard and don't see why one would want to limit that.

All of this.

Other than the false sense of some kind of wholesome, safer environment for women, there is really no reason to send your girls to an all girls school.

Op here. Would you all say that the alumni networks are weak across given the women who attend from a social promotion perspective as in they are stagnant after graduation or did not tend to do better than their parents? Or are women in these networks less able to reach the ladder top overall due to just being female in the USA?

Gosh, yes, Madeleine Albright—what a failure!

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Anonymous wrote:Worked at one for many years. I dont know why anyone would send their kid there other than the academic rigor, which is true for any coed school as well.

What aspects of it make it confusing to you?

Where did I say I was confused?

Einstein, what makes it so that you can’t understand why anyone would send their kids to one? It’s pretty obvious what I asked.

So typical. You totally miss the point, misread, etc., and then resort to name calling. I'm not confused in the slightest, but you are.

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Anonymous wrote:Worked at one for many years. I dont know why anyone would send their kid there other than the academic rigor, which is true for any coed school as well.

What aspects of it make it confusing to you?

Where did I say I was confused?

Einstein, what makes it so that you can’t understand why anyone would send their kids to one? It’s pretty obvious what I asked.

So typical. You totally miss the point, misread, etc., and then resort to name calling. I'm not confused in the slightest, but you are.

You literally said you couldn’t understand why someone would and then followed up with…nothing. I’m literally just asking for basic elaboration and you’re acting like I bit you.

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I have an acquaintance from Arkansas who went to Wellesley. She is very vocal and strident about feminism, but ironically almost all of her professional accomplishments are due to drafting behind her husband's career (he was a very senior government official). When he retired, her husband got her a job in Washington DC through friends in New York. Getting bored of that, she applied for a big promotion twice, but lost out twice, first to a guy who went Occidental (!) and then to a finance bro who went to Penn. She has always seemed to struggle with STEM topics, and has had some near career ending mishaps trying to understand how IT and email systems work. Her marriage hasn't really worked out, and she seems angry all the time. I feel like she might have been happier if she went to Ole Miss. (She's a hell of trader in cattle futures though- maybe Texas A&M would have been a better fit).

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Anonymous wrote:Wellesley the only one I would consider (considering my grandmother and spouse are both alums), historically the most elite.

However, these institutions have changed quite a bit in recent years and are now increasingly dominated by foreign students, FGLI cases, and crazed liberal LGBTQ+ or race grievance types. They simply don't draw from the same social strata they used to.

The traditional rule for Harvard men was "Lesley to bed, Wellesley to wed, and Radcliffe to talk to." Wellesley and the other 7 sisters used to educate the most intelligent, accomplished and desirable women in America. After many decades of the ravages of co-education and liberalism, that is no longer the case.

Probably best to pass them up and look into SEC schools with a strong sorority scene.

Lesley?

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Anonymous wrote:Worked at one for many years. I dont know why anyone would send their kid there other than the academic rigor, which is true for any coed school as well.

What aspects of it make it confusing to you?

Where did I say I was confused?

Einstein, what makes it so that you can’t understand why anyone would send their kids to one? It’s pretty obvious what I asked.

So typical. You totally miss the point, misread, etc., and then resort to name calling. I'm not confused in the slightest, but you are.

You literally said you couldn’t understand why someone would and then followed up with…nothing. I’m literally just asking for basic elaboration and you’re acting like I bit you.

You keep refusing to read the entire sentence and then keep coming back to blame me for your lack of comprehension. You also refuse to read your own words, apparently.

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There is a reason that most of the discussion so far has been about Wellesley. Most of the other ones have very little to offer academically.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a reason that most of the discussion so far has been about Wellesley. Most of the other ones have very little to offer academically.

When at Harvard, a visiting Holyoke professor said her students were stronger in the classroom. I believed her, since so many in my class were pre-professional and not that interested in the academic work beyond what was strictly necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:NP: I’m from a country where single-sex college eduction is unheard of. Is there a bias in the country among some people that if you attended an all women college that it’s kind of weird or would it imply something about your personality or you can’t do as well if there are men around? No flame please but that’s owhat someone from my hometown would wonder

Yes, some people are going to think things like those.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a reason that most of the discussion so far has been about Wellesley. Most of the other ones have very little to offer academically.

What about Smith?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m interested in hearing how the majority of people feel about this route because it was very uncommon in my circle growing up. I think it may be a good option financially for my daughter but I also want to look beyond that aspect and see how it’s viewed by the actual real world.

I few the same as I do for Same sex HSs. I think it's weird. Unless you are becoming a nun or priest, you will have to learn to interact with the opposite sex to function in this world. So I think the sooner you do so, the better.

Also, eons ago when I attended college, you could easily pick out the kids (male and female) who attended same sex HSs (back then typically Catholic/religious mostly). Those kids went absolutely crazy in college without any parental controls, as most had lived sheltered lives