ozempic and appetite

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since she's losing weight, she's eating less. You can lose weight eating any kind of junk if you just eat very little.

But for her health, she's supposed to be getting a lot of protein, calcium, and water. Because when you eat a lot less but most of it is junk, you'll have health issues. (And I'm with PP, I can't tolerate fast food on glp-1.)

I don’t understand this or how anyone on glp-1s loses weight by eating junk foods (clearly there are more than one per this thread). I’m on Weight Watchers (have been on “maintenance” for several years), and on that program foods are assigned point values mainly based on their macros. Even small amounts of pizza and ice cream are enough points that if I consistently eat them, I exceed my daily allotted point value and start to gain weight. Eg, today I ate a plain yogurt with fruit for breakfast, a turkey sandwich for lunch, snacked on fruit and avocado, and had a big salad with grilled chicken sausage and roasted veggies for dinner. So no junk. This brought me close to my total point value for the day. We went out for ice cream for dessert and just a small cup of vanilla basically doubled my total points for the day.

All I can imagine is that glp-1’s do more than curb appetite, but also change one’s metabolism. And this is why people like me would love to go on a glp-1, even though I am “only” 130 lbs at 5’4”.

Instead of a whole turkey sandwich I am full from, for example, one single fried chicken finger and a couple French fries. (That was my lunch several times when I went to Disney this summer.) My meal was objectively junk food but probably lower in calories than your sandwich.

Ah, that is interesting and I see what you mean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been on GLP1s over a year.

I buy junk food more than I ever did because I can now trust myself with portion size. In my lifelong calorie restriction efforts pre GLP1, I would never dream of having my favorite cookies or ice cream in the house because I knew I wouldn’t stop at a couple spoonfuls. Now, I do. So it’s in the freezer for the first time in my life aside from when my parents stocked it.

This is me exactly. Even things like pizza, burgers and fries are in my diet bc I don’t binge them anymore. I can enjoy them and be totally satisfied with a small portion

This is an incredibly stupid thing for you both to do, you are the ones who will gain the weight back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been on GLP1s over a year.

I buy junk food more than I ever did because I can now trust myself with portion size. In my lifelong calorie restriction efforts pre GLP1, I would never dream of having my favorite cookies or ice cream in the house because I knew I wouldn’t stop at a couple spoonfuls. Now, I do. So it’s in the freezer for the first time in my life aside from when my parents stocked it.

This is me exactly. Even things like pizza, burgers and fries are in my diet bc I don’t binge them anymore. I can enjoy them and be totally satisfied with a small portion

Because you will $hit your pants if you eat too much.

You keep saying this but it's not true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since she's losing weight, she's eating less. You can lose weight eating any kind of junk if you just eat very little.

But for her health, she's supposed to be getting a lot of protein, calcium, and water. Because when you eat a lot less but most of it is junk, you'll have health issues. (And I'm with PP, I can't tolerate fast food on glp-1.)

I don’t understand this or how anyone on glp-1s loses weight by eating junk foods (clearly there are more than one per this thread). I’m on Weight Watchers (have been on “maintenance” for several years), and on that program foods are assigned point values mainly based on their macros. Even small amounts of pizza and ice cream are enough points that if I consistently eat them, I exceed my daily allotted point value and start to gain weight. Eg, today I ate a plain yogurt with fruit for breakfast, a turkey sandwich for lunch, snacked on fruit and avocado, and had a big salad with grilled chicken sausage and roasted veggies for dinner. So no junk. This brought me close to my total point value for the day. We went out for ice cream for dessert and just a small cup of vanilla basically doubled my total points for the day.

All I can imagine is that glp-1’s do more than curb appetite, but also change one’s metabolism. And this is why people like me would love to go on a glp-1, even though I am “only” 130 lbs at 5’4”.

Instead of a whole turkey sandwich I am full from, for example, one single fried chicken finger and a couple French fries. (That was my lunch several times when I went to Disney this summer.) My meal was objectively junk food but probably lower in calories than your sandwich.

Yes, the WW points help someone to achieve an overall healthy diet while feeling full enough. With a GLP-1 you can feel full with just a small amount of junk food, but that’s not going to be healthy long term. Some people get malnutrition from taking GLP-1 and not eating right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been on GLP1s over a year.

I buy junk food more than I ever did because I can now trust myself with portion size. In my lifelong calorie restriction efforts pre GLP1, I would never dream of having my favorite cookies or ice cream in the house because I knew I wouldn’t stop at a couple spoonfuls. Now, I do. So it’s in the freezer for the first time in my life aside from when my parents stocked it.

This is me exactly. Even things like pizza, burgers and fries are in my diet bc I don’t binge them anymore. I can enjoy them and be totally satisfied with a small portion

This is an incredibly stupid thing for you both to do, you are the ones who will gain the weight back.

Depends if they learn to eat small portions. It doesn’t mean they are eating that for every meal,

[Anonymous]

Bad food definitely makes my nausea worse. When I eat clean I don’t feel bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been on GLP1s over a year.

I buy junk food more than I ever did because I can now trust myself with portion size. In my lifelong calorie restriction efforts pre GLP1, I would never dream of having my favorite cookies or ice cream in the house because I knew I wouldn’t stop at a couple spoonfuls. Now, I do. So it’s in the freezer for the first time in my life aside from when my parents stocked it.

This is me exactly. Even things like pizza, burgers and fries are in my diet bc I don’t binge them anymore. I can enjoy them and be totally satisfied with a small portion

This is an incredibly stupid thing for you both to do, you are the ones who will gain the weight back.

GLP1s are a lifelong treatment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you first start on it, you're not on a therapeutic dose. You titrate up slowly and the effects get stronger as you go up. I didn't have much appetite suppression (nor any GI side effects) until 1.5 - your mom may still be on a starter dose. But since her doctor put her on it for weight loss and she's losing weight you should probably just be happy for her and stop looking for opportunities to judge.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been on GLP1s over a year.

I buy junk food more than I ever did because I can now trust myself with portion size. In my lifelong calorie restriction efforts pre GLP1, I would never dream of having my favorite cookies or ice cream in the house because I knew I wouldn’t stop at a couple spoonfuls. Now, I do. So it’s in the freezer for the first time in my life aside from when my parents stocked it.

This is so encouraging. I am starting next week and this is what I am looking for. I want to be able to have ice cream or snacks in the house and not consume them in 24 hours. Since I was a teen- if something is in the house it is absolutely all that I think about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been on GLP1s over a year.

I buy junk food more than I ever did because I can now trust myself with portion size. In my lifelong calorie restriction efforts pre GLP1, I would never dream of having my favorite cookies or ice cream in the house because I knew I wouldn’t stop at a couple spoonfuls. Now, I do. So it’s in the freezer for the first time in my life aside from when my parents stocked it.

This is so encouraging. I am starting next week and this is what I am looking for. I want to be able to have ice cream or snacks in the house and not consume them in 24 hours. Since I was a teen- if something is in the house it is absolutely all that I think about.

I’m excited for you then!

I was just chuckling to myself about people warning us about not being able to go off GLP1s—I’ve been counting calories since I was 15. I’m thrilled to go off THAT. Even if it means injections for life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been on GLP1s over a year.

I buy junk food more than I ever did because I can now trust myself with portion size. In my lifelong calorie restriction efforts pre GLP1, I would never dream of having my favorite cookies or ice cream in the house because I knew I wouldn’t stop at a couple spoonfuls. Now, I do. So it’s in the freezer for the first time in my life aside from when my parents stocked it.

This is so encouraging. I am starting next week and this is what I am looking for. I want to be able to have ice cream or snacks in the house and not consume them in 24 hours. Since I was a teen- if something is in the house it is absolutely all that I think about.

I’m excited for you then!

I was just chuckling to myself about people warning us about not being able to go off GLP1s—I’ve been counting calories since I was 15. I’m thrilled to go off THAT. Even if it means injections for life.

Thanks! yeah- I did 3 rounds to IVF to bank eggs when I was younger and PIO shots for 10 weeks when I transfered... a weekly injection is nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been on GLP1s over a year.

I buy junk food more than I ever did because I can now trust myself with portion size. In my lifelong calorie restriction efforts pre GLP1, I would never dream of having my favorite cookies or ice cream in the house because I knew I wouldn’t stop at a couple spoonfuls. Now, I do. So it’s in the freezer for the first time in my life aside from when my parents stocked it.

This is so encouraging. I am starting next week and this is what I am looking for. I want to be able to have ice cream or snacks in the house and not consume them in 24 hours. Since I was a teen- if something is in the house it is absolutely all that I think about.

NP. I bought chocolates on vacation that would have lasted me a couple days before, and it lasted me 2 weeks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since she's losing weight, she's eating less. You can lose weight eating any kind of junk if you just eat very little.

But for her health, she's supposed to be getting a lot of protein, calcium, and water. Because when you eat a lot less but most of it is junk, you'll have health issues. (And I'm with PP, I can't tolerate fast food on glp-1.)

I don’t understand this or how anyone on glp-1s loses weight by eating junk foods (clearly there are more than one per this thread). I’m on Weight Watchers (have been on “maintenance” for several years), and on that program foods are assigned point values mainly based on their macros. Even small amounts of pizza and ice cream are enough points that if I consistently eat them, I exceed my daily allotted point value and start to gain weight. Eg, today I ate a plain yogurt with fruit for breakfast, a turkey sandwich for lunch, snacked on fruit and avocado, and had a big salad with grilled chicken sausage and roasted veggies for dinner. So no junk. This brought me close to my total point value for the day. We went out for ice cream for dessert and just a small cup of vanilla basically doubled my total points for the day.

All I can imagine is that glp-1’s do more than curb appetite, but also change one’s metabolism. And this is why people like me would love to go on a glp-1, even though I am “only” 130 lbs at 5’4”.

You can do the same thing on WW. I did it years ago. You have to account for the points, or whatever system they are using now. You can eat them all day every day but a little bit of ice cream every now and then is fine.

My family wanted Dubai chocolate and we had some in the house last week. I had one bite and was satisfied. I enjoyed it without guilt. Before zepbound, I would have eaten an entire bar myself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been on GLP1s over a year.

I buy junk food more than I ever did because I can now trust myself with portion size. In my lifelong calorie restriction efforts pre GLP1, I would never dream of having my favorite cookies or ice cream in the house because I knew I wouldn’t stop at a couple spoonfuls. Now, I do. So it’s in the freezer for the first time in my life aside from when my parents stocked it.

This is me exactly. Even things like pizza, burgers and fries are in my diet bc I don’t binge them anymore. I can enjoy them and be totally satisfied with a small portion

This is an incredibly stupid thing for you both to do, you are the ones who will gain the weight back.

Depends if they learn to eat small portions. It doesn’t mean they are eating that for every meal,

NP. Maybe if they really learn to eat like they should : mostly healthy proteins and veggies, good quality carbs in moderation, no ultra processed food and then once a week, at the restaurant or at a party, yes, learn to eat a reasonable portion of pizza and ice cream. But it looks like a lot of the posters on this thread think this is being on a diet, they probably even think it is a restrictive one. And they don’t seem keen at all to use the GLP phase to transition to that lifestyle « without the food noise preventing them to »

I am not anti GLP at all but this is the first time reading this forum that I see how badly abused it will most likely be. We are probably a more educated group than average, and we are on this forum discussing nutrition. I would not have expected the majority of the GLp1 takers in this particular thread to say that they enjoy GLP1 because it allows them to eat Junk food. This is not going to end well

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My mom (age 70) is on ozempic for weight loss.

She is constantly going out for pizza and ice cream, and buying junk food for home. (More than once per week)

I thought ozempic reduces appetite? She is losing weight (5'5, 150 and dropping) but still eating this stuff.

A. You're really judgmental.

B. At her age, she should be focusing on protein to preserve muscle mass. I'm 65 and have worked very hard to preserve my muscle mass by prioritizing lean protein and taking up strength training. Ideally she would be under the care of a dietician who can guide her on what to eat.

OP is not judgmental at all. She is rightly concerned.