Practicing Muslim or Christian

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Anonymous wrote:How much or how little one follows their inhereted or chosen religion is their private matter not anyone else's business. How helpful, kind and just they are in their dealings with others is the only measure which matters to fellow humans.

and you can be helpful and kind without religion.

You won’t get to heaven though without Jesus. I pray you find Him. Amen.

There is no heaven. It's a fantasy you learn in church. Amen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How much or how little one follows their inhereted or chosen religion is their private matter not anyone else's business. How helpful, kind and just they are in their dealings with others is the only measure which matters to fellow humans.

and you can be helpful and kind without religion.

You won’t get to heaven though without Jesus. I pray you find Him. Amen.

There is no heaven. It's a fantasy you learn in church. Amen.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

I pray for the release of the strongholds these powers of darkness have against your soul. In Jesus’s name, Amen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much or how little one follows their inhereted or chosen religion is their private matter not anyone else's business. How helpful, kind and just they are in their dealings with others is the only measure which matters to fellow humans.

and you can be helpful and kind without religion.

You won’t get to heaven though without Jesus. I pray you find Him. Amen.

There is no heaven. It's a fantasy you learn in church. Amen.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

I pray for the release of the strongholds these powers of darkness have against your soul. In Jesus’s name, Amen.

I don't have a soul. Neither do you. Jesus is a myth. Amen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would consider a Muslim to be practicing if they:

- Pray their daily prayers regularly
- Fast during Ramadan
- Abstain from drinking alcohol, eating pork, and sexual relations outside of marriage

That's kind of the minimum to me. But I know people have their own personal meanings of if they consider themselves practicing or not.

This is what I consider a practicing Muslim as well.
Personally I also add, abstain from anything that intoxicates.

[Anonymous]

That's a perfected Muslim not a practicing Muslim.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would consider a Muslim to be practicing if they:

- Pray their daily prayers regularly
- Fast during Ramadan
- Abstain from drinking alcohol, eating pork, and sexual relations outside of marriage

That's kind of the minimum to me. But I know people have their own personal meanings of if they consider themselves practicing or not.

This is what I consider a practicing Muslim as well.
Personally I also add, abstain from anything that intoxicates.

like love?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am not sure if other religions also use the described practicing, but I know bother Muslims and Christians who refer to themselves as a practicing Muslim or practicing Christian. To me that means that you are actively trying to live out the teachings of your faith vs it being a religion you were born into / raised in / identify with.

I have seen quite a few examples recently of people saying I am a practicing X but then they are not at all living in a way that would indicate they are trying to follow the teachings / texts of their faith. And not hiding that. So I am curious what people understand practicing Muslim / Christian to be and if you use that term, do you openly not follow the teachings of your faith and if so how do you rationalize these two things?

Practicing means ones who try. They don't claim to be perfect but like to practice and hope to do better.

NO, she was saying that she was a REAL muslim who does all the religious stuff a Muslim is supposed to do - plus she bed hops

I don't live an unchaste life but I DO have interest bearing accounts and in the harm that participating in an interest based economy does to others, I am probably inflicting more harm than her. in islam people have 2 main responsibilities- the rights of God and of man and we need only concern ourselves with the rights of man, God is the ultimate Master of our fates so we don't have the wisdom, or right to judge anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's a perfected Muslim not a practicing Muslim.

hahahaha no- that would be the bare minimum for many Muslims, it is certainly not perfect. The Perfect Muslim was the prophet and he was only a man, we all can follow that example. Praying in the deep hours of the night, reciting the Quran dn teaching it to others, keeping only what is necessary for life and giving the rest away, being scrupulously honest and not participating in a trade that extorts labor or capital.. the list of what it would take to be a perfect Muslim is not that simple.

a main difference between muslims and (catholic) christians is that we don't have "lay persons" we are ALL called to the religious life however like the priests of the orthodox church, Allah has permitted us to marry and have children. in other ways, we are supposed to devote the majority of our time and life in the worship of God which is Mans' purpose in life. "We have not created Man and Jinn but that they may worship Me" that is one of the reasons that muslim women dress the way they do- and if you look at how muslim men have traditionally dressed- it isn't all that different from the women. My grandfather got into trouble when he began wearing "western clothes" with his shirt tucked in to his pants b/c it wasn't considered modest- its one of the reasons all those Southeast asian men wear safari suits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's a perfected Muslim not a practicing Muslim.

hahahaha no- that would be the bare minimum for many Muslims, it is certainly not perfect. The Perfect Muslim was the prophet and he was only a man, we all can follow that example. Praying in the deep hours of the night, reciting the Quran dn teaching it to others, keeping only what is necessary for life and giving the rest away, being scrupulously honest and not participating in a trade that extorts labor or capital.. the list of what it would take to be a perfect Muslim is not that simple.

a main difference between muslims and (catholic) christians is that we don't have "lay persons" we are ALL called to the religious life however like the priests of the orthodox church, Allah has permitted us to marry and have children. in other ways, we are supposed to devote the majority of our time and life in the worship of God which is Mans' purpose in life. "We have not created Man and Jinn but that they may worship Me" that is one of the reasons that muslim women dress the way they do- and if you look at how muslim men have traditionally dressed- it isn't all that different from the women. My grandfather got into trouble when he began wearing "western clothes" with his shirt tucked in to his pants b/c it wasn't considered modest- its one of the reasons all those Southeast asian men wear safari suits.

Ridiculous. Who knew God had a dress code.

[Anonymous]

Islam is an orthopraxy. There are certain practices you need to adhere to. Unless part of some tiny minority sect, a practicing Muslim to me is a Muslim who prays, fast, and pays the required alms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's a perfected Muslim not a practicing Muslim.

hahahaha no- that would be the bare minimum for many Muslims, it is certainly not perfect. The Perfect Muslim was the prophet and he was only a man, we all can follow that example. Praying in the deep hours of the night, reciting the Quran dn teaching it to others, keeping only what is necessary for life and giving the rest away, being scrupulously honest and not participating in a trade that extorts labor or capital.. the list of what it would take to be a perfect Muslim is not that simple.

a main difference between muslims and (catholic) christians is that we don't have "lay persons" we are ALL called to the religious life however like the priests of the orthodox church, Allah has permitted us to marry and have children. in other ways, we are supposed to devote the majority of our time and life in the worship of God which is Mans' purpose in life. "We have not created Man and Jinn but that they may worship Me" that is one of the reasons that muslim women dress the way they do- and if you look at how muslim men have traditionally dressed- it isn't all that different from the women. My grandfather got into trouble when he began wearing "western clothes" with his shirt tucked in to his pants b/c it wasn't considered modest- its one of the reasons all those Southeast asian men wear safari suits.

Ridiculous. Who knew God had a dress code.

Also if "Allah" didn't permit people to marry and have children, there would be no more Muslims, so of course Allah permits this!

[Anonymous]

The usual way Protestants distinguish among ourselves is by saying how regularly we attend church. Christmas and Easter Christians are merely cultural.

I realize this isn't perfect in an age where some people go to church to listen to the Gospel of MAGA be preached every week, but then again it's never been perfect.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would consider a Muslim to be practicing if they:

- Pray their daily prayers regularly
- Fast during Ramadan
- Abstain from drinking alcohol, eating pork, and sexual relations outside of marriage

That's kind of the minimum to me. But I know people have their own personal meanings of if they consider themselves practicing or not.

I just saw a video of a woman on who was on the Love Island show - where they spend all day in mini bikinis, jump between men and sleep in beds with different men each week, make out constantly, and do all kinds of sexual activities and challenges. This was after the show from the UK and one of the women who was on the show said in an interview that she was a practicing Muslim. Much of the behavior and expectations for someone on that show would be counter to the Quran and teachings of Islam yet she considers herself a practicing Muslim. I could see if she just said Muslim but I wondered why she added practicing.

I had a practicing Muslim working for me did all you consider to be a good Muslim. He also enjoyed time sheet fraud, lying, took a second job on company time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would consider a Muslim to be practicing if they:

- Pray their daily prayers regularly
- Fast during Ramadan
- Abstain from drinking alcohol, eating pork, and sexual relations outside of marriage

That's kind of the minimum to me. But I know people have their own personal meanings of if they consider themselves practicing or not.

I just saw a video of a woman on who was on the Love Island show - where they spend all day in mini bikinis, jump between men and sleep in beds with different men each week, make out constantly, and do all kinds of sexual activities and challenges. This was after the show from the UK and one of the women who was on the show said in an interview that she was a practicing Muslim. Much of the behavior and expectations for someone on that show would be counter to the Quran and teachings of Islam yet she considers herself a practicing Muslim. I could see if she just said Muslim but I wondered why she added practicing.

I had a practicing Muslim working for me did all you consider to be a good Muslim. He also enjoyed time sheet fraud, lying, took a second job on company time.

No one here said he was good. You are confusing good with practicing.

[Anonymous]

Muslims have a lot of litmus tests, especially for women. Sad.