MLS Academies & Education

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1) a local BSC kid is going to Nashville from Landon and is doing YSC Academy, the same program with Philly Union. I imagine that his family had the same questions and I suppose YSC has had to deal with this in the Philly market which has a similar parent base built on academics as the DMV.

2) Stanford Online High School is a high-level option.

3) There are 168 hours in a week. Public school and many private waste 3-4 hours daily in inefficiency. There are much better pure learning methods but the social aspect is important for most kids. An academy player has his social covered so they just need meat and potatoes academics to get the job done.

4) The days of being at Westpoint and going to the NFL are over. You can still go to an academy and then go Ivy but the perfect path is a lot harder academically but you will have academy experience to compensate for it. At a certain point, you do have to make choices. Are you going to spend an extra hour daily on AP science or your first touch?

I guess for the men's side, but so many successful women went to top tier colleges like Stanford IN PERSON and still thrived. Plenty of examples in the NFL of particularly linemen taking advantage of scholarships to top academic colleges to get even better jobs after their playing career as well.

"Plenty of examples in the NFL"?
Or a few examples?

Plenty the IVY league/top academic guys who make it to the NFL for a few years and flame out tend to be really well represented in the media/coaching staffs around the league. Lots have moved on to more lucrative careers based on their connections from playing days. You can do the HW, but there are PLENTY of examples. It helps there are gigantic rosters for football so these aren't exactly rare cases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1) a local BSC kid is going to Nashville from Landon and is doing YSC Academy, the same program with Philly Union. I imagine that his family had the same questions and I suppose YSC has had to deal with this in the Philly market which has a similar parent base built on academics as the DMV.

2) Stanford Online High School is a high-level option.

3) There are 168 hours in a week. Public school and many private waste 3-4 hours daily in inefficiency. There are much better pure learning methods but the social aspect is important for most kids. An academy player has his social covered so they just need meat and potatoes academics to get the job done.

4) The days of being at Westpoint and going to the NFL are over. You can still go to an academy and then go Ivy but the perfect path is a lot harder academically but you will have academy experience to compensate for it. At a certain point, you do have to make choices. Are you going to spend an extra hour daily on AP science or your first touch?

Thank you for this. This kinda confirms what I’ve found out through Google. Was hoping for like a boarding school setup with inperson school. I believe Benefica in Florida is the closest example although of course that’s a pay to play and not attached to an academy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) a local BSC kid is going to Nashville from Landon and is doing YSC Academy, the same program with Philly Union. I imagine that his family had the same questions and I suppose YSC has had to deal with this in the Philly market which has a similar parent base built on academics as the DMV.

2) Stanford Online High School is a high-level option.

3) There are 168 hours in a week. Public school and many private waste 3-4 hours daily in inefficiency. There are much better pure learning methods but the social aspect is important for most kids. An academy player has his social covered so they just need meat and potatoes academics to get the job done.

4) The days of being at Westpoint and going to the NFL are over. You can still go to an academy and then go Ivy but the perfect path is a lot harder academically but you will have academy experience to compensate for it. At a certain point, you do have to make choices. Are you going to spend an extra hour daily on AP science or your first touch?

I guess for the men's side, but so many successful women went to top tier colleges like Stanford IN PERSON and still thrived. Plenty of examples in the NFL of particularly linemen taking advantage of scholarships to top academic colleges to get even better jobs after their playing career as well.

Difficult discussion but the women in the U.S. has benefitted from our pro-woman stance on equality in politic terms. Their success is not reflective of our development systems. For example, there is about 20% more competition for the men coming out of the Middle East that women do not have to deal with. This is just one slice of the pie.

How many women NWSL Next academies are there? That answers your question on why a woman can get a high education in the U.S. and still achieve the highest level of soccer. Anything is possible on the men’s side but just not likely.

LOL - well imagine if the middle east actually treated women equally?!?!

It's not just that - it's that women's soccer is still held up on a pedestal compared to men's soccer in the US. Our best athletes don't give AF about soccer on the men's side and it is what it is. So please keep telling me how the US women are doomed to fail *eventually*.

I really hope that you don’t run anything important in our current administration.

That’s the point! Middle eastern girls are not playing many if ANY sports while American girls have both a system to play and girls dads and moms who support them. Middle eastern men are playing and countries like Qatar actually have a better “system” than the US on the men’s side. Saudi is investing more money in their means league than the MLS. Our women has several advantages globally over countries and our “system” can be completed ineffective but still produce the most due to sheer competitive advantage.

Let’s say 75% of the worlds men are trying to compete in soccer while 25% of their worlds women are trying to compete. If Americans are 1% in both scenarios, you don’t have to be a mathematician to like your odds in this scenario for the USA women succeeding at a higher rate globally in comparison to the men. That is honest truth about women’s soccer and basketball. We have to evaluate our systems to see if they support our goals in these supports.

[Anonymous]

Lets be real here... many of these kids who play for academies won't be able to make it into any decent college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lets be real here... many of these kids who play for academies won't be able to make it into any decent college.

I don’t believe that, the discipline and effort it takes to become a good player is the same to be a good student. I think that’s more common.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lets be real here... many of these kids who play for academies won't be able to make it into any decent college.

If you were to take away the soccer aspect, I would tend to agree with that generalization. Kids even on the 1st team hardly have time for any home work with 4x practices per week. And the burn out, many of them are physically exhausted to do extra school work.

[Anonymous]

Go on trial with Nashville if child academic. Avoid Philly. Great for soccer development but kids don’t learn much off pitch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go on trial with Nashville if child academic. Avoid Philly. Great for soccer development but kids don’t learn much off pitch.

Isn’t Nashville and Philly miles apart from the quality of their soccer development? Nashville might not even be as good as dcu which this forum considers is a pretty low standard.

There’s got to be a middle ground where the education is solid as is the soccer development

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go on trial with Nashville if child academic. Avoid Philly. Great for soccer development but kids don’t learn much off pitch.

What does Nashville do different?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lets be real here... many of these kids who play for academies won't be able to make it into any decent college.

Then we must question these top colleges every year lying about who's on their rosters

They keep listing kids from MLS clubs academies

You must think this is the 1980's with kids playing football and having tutors do their work in high school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lets be real here... many of these kids who play for academies won't be able to make it into any decent college.

If you were to take away the soccer aspect, I would tend to agree with that generalization. Kids even on the 1st team hardly have time for any home work with 4x practices per week. And the burn out, many of them are physically exhausted to do extra school work.

All these Bethesda parents with kids on the MLS Next teams practicing 4X's a week are shocked to find out from you that their sons will all be academic failures

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go on trial with Nashville if child academic. Avoid Philly. Great for soccer development but kids don’t learn much off pitch.

Isn’t Nashville and Philly miles apart from the quality of their soccer development? Nashville might not even be as good as dcu which this forum considers is a pretty low standard.

There’s got to be a middle ground where the education is solid as is the soccer development

A professional soccer club academy is built to develop players the senior team can sign once they age out of the academy. the have zero interest/incentive to develop kids academically, nor do you see any of the MLS Academies touting the players who came through their academy and placed in college. Success for an MLS Academy director is not wins/losses, its developing just 1 or 2 players every year that can be signed to a pro contract at the end - no incentive to care about academics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go on trial with Nashville if child academic. Avoid Philly. Great for soccer development but kids don’t learn much off pitch.

Isn’t Nashville and Philly miles apart from the quality of their soccer development? Nashville might not even be as good as dcu which this forum considers is a pretty low standard.

There’s got to be a middle ground where the education is solid as is the soccer development

A professional soccer club academy is built to develop players the senior team can sign once they age out of the academy. the have zero interest/incentive to develop kids academically, nor do you see any of the MLS Academies touting the players who came through their academy and placed in college. Success for an MLS Academy director is not wins/losses, its developing just 1 or 2 players every year that can be signed to a pro contract at the end - no incentive to care about academics.

The IG pages of the academies always show the colleges players go to