What will happen to Columbia admission this year?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never pay a dollar to an institution that capitulated to what the Trump administration is doing right now. I have accepted that this means that our kids will attend college outside the US.

As if you could get in haha


I am not sure whether this is a ref to getting in to Brown (which I did) or about institutions outside the US (have not, but feel confident that I could).

I went to a different school in the US, which has also capitulated and which I also will not pay another dime to.

I cannot imagine how anyone who got real intellectual value out of college could want their kid to spend those four same years of their lives at an institution where Trump admin officials are reading every student eval. Let alone pay for it!

The reputational stain on these institutions, once it is fully understood, will last for decades.


Drama queen. The impact will be nil. Unless you like those unhinged pro-jihadist associate professors Columbia now has a good excuse to rid itself of. Then you can be outraged and go to Iran.
Anonymous
I'm curious because they have to give all their admissions and race data to the government (and Brown too). Lately the rule of thumb is that only certain people should apply test optional (URM, athletes, etc.). Is there's major discrepancies on percent accepted with test scores, I wonder if the government will go after test optional.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm curious because they have to give all their admissions and race data to the government (and Brown too). Lately the rule of thumb is that only certain people should apply test optional (URM, athletes, etc.). Is there's major discrepancies on percent accepted with test scores, I wonder if the government will go after test optional.


Brown is test required now.

Are you saying Brown is less likely to reject a high test score applicant if this would result in racial discrepancies?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have to say that I'm not an alarmist, usually shrug at a lot of the stuff DCUM gets worked up about. And I'm in academia.

And I would discourage my kid from applying to Columbia this year. It's scary what's going on there in terms of academic freedom. You are going to have so many disgruntled faculty. I don't have a kid applying this year, but if I did, I'd take it off any list.


It’s also not a safe environment for Jewish students this year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to say that I'm not an alarmist, usually shrug at a lot of the stuff DCUM gets worked up about. And I'm in academia.

And I would discourage my kid from applying to Columbia this year. It's scary what's going on there in terms of academic freedom. You are going to have so many disgruntled faculty. I don't have a kid applying this year, but if I did, I'd take it off any list.


It’s also not a safe environment for Jewish students this year.


Oh enough with the "safe environment." Has any Jewish student actually been hurt? And no, hurt feelings don't count.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to say that I'm not an alarmist, usually shrug at a lot of the stuff DCUM gets worked up about. And I'm in academia.

And I would discourage my kid from applying to Columbia this year. It's scary what's going on there in terms of academic freedom. You are going to have so many disgruntled faculty. I don't have a kid applying this year, but if I did, I'd take it off any list.


It’s also not a safe environment for Jewish students this year.


For the anti-Zionist ones, yes, for the Zionist ones, the school caters to them
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It will mostly be Asian-American students who benefit if Columbia knocks it off with race-based admissions and enrolling so many international students.


Don't know about that.
The international crowd brought lots of full tuition dollars.
The financial gap needs to be mended so I can see a higher stack of applicants who can be full pay. And that demographic isn't necessarily Asian Americans.
Anonymous
As competitive as ever.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never pay a dollar to an institution that capitulated to what the Trump administration is doing right now. I have accepted that this means that our kids will attend college outside the US.

As if you could get in haha


I am not sure whether this is a ref to getting in to Brown (which I did) or about institutions outside the US (have not, but feel confident that I could).

I went to a different school in the US, which has also capitulated and which I also will not pay another dime to.

I cannot imagine how anyone who got real intellectual value out of college could want their kid to spend those four same years of their lives at an institution where Trump admin officials are reading every student eval. Let alone pay for it!

The reputational stain on these institutions, once it is fully understood, will last for decades.


There was a lot of intellectual value gained at these schools prior to the rise of student activism. History is long and that is a big part of Columbia's core curriculum. I don't think anti-DEI is doing away with Plato or Hannah Arendt.
The primary focus of a school is academics. Not political agitation.

Drama queen. The impact will be nil. Unless you like those unhinged pro-jihadist associate professors Columbia now has a good excuse to rid itself of. Then you can be outraged and go to Iran.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never pay a dollar to an institution that capitulated to what the Trump administration is doing right now. I have accepted that this means that our kids will attend college outside the US.

As if you could get in haha


I am not sure whether this is a ref to getting in to Brown (which I did) or about institutions outside the US (have not, but feel confident that I could).

I went to a different school in the US, which has also capitulated and which I also will not pay another dime to.

I cannot imagine how anyone who got real intellectual value out of college could want their kid to spend those four same years of their lives at an institution where Trump admin officials are reading every student eval. Let alone pay for it!

The reputational stain on these institutions, once it is fully understood, will last for decades.


There was a lot of intellectual value gained at these schools prior to the rise of student activism. History is long and that is a big part of Columbia's core curriculum. I don't think anti-DEI is doing away with Plato or Hannah Arendt.
The primary focus of a school is academics. Not political agitation.

Drama queen. The impact will be nil. Unless you like those unhinged pro-jihadist associate professors Columbia now has a good excuse to rid itself of. Then you can be outraged and go to Iran.


There was a lot of intellectual value gained at these schools prior to the rise of student activism. History is long and that is a big part of Columbia's core curriculum. I don't think anti-DEI is doing away with Plato or Hannah Arendt.
The primary focus of a school is academics. Not political agitation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to say that I'm not an alarmist, usually shrug at a lot of the stuff DCUM gets worked up about. And I'm in academia.

And I would discourage my kid from applying to Columbia this year. It's scary what's going on there in terms of academic freedom. You are going to have so many disgruntled faculty. I don't have a kid applying this year, but if I did, I'd take it off any list.


It’s also not a safe environment for Jewish students this year.


I thought Columbia was a Jewish school(as in religious based like Notre Dame for Catholics)? Why would a school like that be unsafe for Jews? The school can reject any student, faculty and or staff how do not meet the religious requirements.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to say that I'm not an alarmist, usually shrug at a lot of the stuff DCUM gets worked up about. And I'm in academia.

And I would discourage my kid from applying to Columbia this year. It's scary what's going on there in terms of academic freedom. You are going to have so many disgruntled faculty. I don't have a kid applying this year, but if I did, I'd take it off any list.


It’s also not a safe environment for Jewish students this year.


I thought Columbia was a Jewish school(as in religious based like Notre Dame for Catholics)? Why would a school like that be unsafe for Jews? The school can reject any student, faculty and or staff how do not meet the religious requirements.


Columbia is not a Jewish school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to say that I'm not an alarmist, usually shrug at a lot of the stuff DCUM gets worked up about. And I'm in academia.

And I would discourage my kid from applying to Columbia this year. It's scary what's going on there in terms of academic freedom. You are going to have so many disgruntled faculty. I don't have a kid applying this year, but if I did, I'd take it off any list.


It’s also not a safe environment for Jewish students this year.


I thought Columbia was a Jewish school(as in religious based like Notre Dame for Catholics)? Why would a school like that be unsafe for Jews? The school can reject any student, faculty and or staff how do not meet the religious requirements.


Columbia is not a Jewish school.


It is not a Jewish school, but the idea that it is "unsafe" for Jews is patently ridiculous. A bunch of drama queens.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never pay a dollar to an institution that capitulated to what the Trump administration is doing right now. I have accepted that this means that our kids will attend college outside the US.

As if you could get in haha


I am not sure whether this is a ref to getting in to Brown (which I did) or about institutions outside the US (have not, but feel confident that I could).

I went to a different school in the US, which has also capitulated and which I also will not pay another dime to.

I cannot imagine how anyone who got real intellectual value out of college could want their kid to spend those four same years of their lives at an institution where Trump admin officials are reading every student eval. Let alone pay for it!

The reputational stain on these institutions, once it is fully understood, will last for decades.


There was a lot of intellectual value gained at these schools prior to the rise of student activism. History is long and that is a big part of Columbia's core curriculum. I don't think anti-DEI is doing away with Plato or Hannah Arendt.
The primary focus of a school is academics. Not political agitation.

Drama queen. The impact will be nil. Unless you like those unhinged pro-jihadist associate professors Columbia now has a good excuse to rid itself of. Then you can be outraged and go to Iran.


There was a lot of intellectual value gained at these schools prior to the rise of student activism. History is long and that is a big part of Columbia's core curriculum. I don't think anti-DEI is doing away with Plato or Hannah Arendt.
The primary focus of a school is academics. Not political agitation.

True, anti-dei is throwing away pretty much all the modern people of color and women who've shaped fields however, which is a problem. Guess what? We have more problems past Aristotle.
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