Rigor Question: Will top50 colleges hold it against my DD that she never took an AP math class (calc at reg level)?
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Anonymous
They don’t require AP Calculus for sure (although in the past they definitely did). But this student’s transcript isn’t just missing AP Calculus. It’s missing virtually every top level math or science class. And they’re from OOS. You are giving bad advice. Amateur advice. This student is not getting into William & Mary with virtually no rigorous math and science classes and no test scores. Not happening. |
Anonymous
With ED W&M is not that hard of an admit. |
Anonymous
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Yes.
My DS is a Humanities student. We were told by every college counselor we spoke to (one in HS and one private) that he absolutely needed AP Calc before graduating, along with AP Physics, Bio, Chem, World, US History, Euro, English lit & lang and the language he studied. They want it all. |
Anonymous
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This from W&M’s most recent catalog. Tell me if you think OP’s kid fits:
Most candidates have pursued as strong a college preparatory program as is available to them. Advanced Placement, International Baccalaureate, honors and accelerated courses are strongly weighted in the evaluation process. Candidates for admission typically have completed the following courses at the secondary level: English: Four years (literature and strong training in writing) Mathematics: Four years Foreign Language (Ancient or Modern): At least four years of one foreign language recommended History and Social Science: At least three years Science (with laboratory): At least three years Elective Courses: Advanced mathematics, history, natural science, English, music, art, drama and other humanities. |
Anonymous
Opinions are like a$$holes. Everybody has one. Including you. Yours is not any better. No need to feel defensive about your kid at W&M. It's a good school. |
Anonymous
I don’t have kids at W&M. Mine went to UVA. I’m not being defensive at all. I just happen to know more than many of you about college admissions. |
Anonymous
W&M is not even a Top 50 University. The student has a shot. Why dissuade them from applying? Weird. |
Anonymous
It will depend on where your DD’s peers apply. First and foremost she will be compared to her peers. Most likely the counselor will not check the most rigorous course box so that will be strike one. If her peers are applying to top 50 schools, have the most rigorous box checked and by taking more APs a higher GPA your daughter will be at a disadvantage. Yes top 25 are basically a crap shoot so you have a chance, most likely outcome would be in the 40-50 range so might be best to set appropriate expectations. Good luck. |
Anonymous
For a T50, regular Calculus is fine - as long as a Calculus class is taken. Don't skip it. |
Anonymous
+1 My DC attends a T25 school and took stats instead of calculus - but all APs in other subjects, including foreign language. Humanities major. |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
Out of 4,000 colleges, no it's not. It's basically a euphemism for 26 - 50. Still top 1% in context. If HYPS or top 25, it is usually mentioned explicitly. |
Anonymous
Such would be a recipe for getting No from almost all T50 from our local public and privates. about 1/3 the high school at the public has higher rigor and T50 is really for top 20% there. The private sends about half or more T50 but this rigor is well below that benchmark. Ask the school for advice |
Anonymous
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ED Tulane
maybe not t50 but it would work |
Anonymous
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What about LACs?
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