Northwestern vs Duke
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Anonymous
Stats for HYP meaning 4.0 + 1580 + national awards + feeder school. HYP still a crapshoot but kid would have almost certainly gotten into an Ivy. |
Anonymous
In private schools, grades are not inflated, you need certain stats to be considered as hyp candidates, unhooked. |
Anonymous
I have one at Northwestern and one at Cornell. Similar students. Very very happy at both. Both sets of kids’ friends would have loved to have gotten into Duke (many friends ED to Duke but didn’t get in). For some reason, Duke sits a bit higher in these kids minds. I don’t see it! |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
They're more popular, because everyone knows both those schools give preference to east coast prep school grads. Duke and Northwestern are very, very popular, theyre just hard to get into. |
Anonymous
Not exactly true re U of Chicago. Their stats are falsely inflated by all the marketing they do to kids would would never have the grades or SATs to get in. Northwestern has a single digit acceptance rate. |
Anonymous
Northwestern might be a little more difficult to get accepted into than Duke |
Anonymous
Not really. They are both more desireable than Brown, for example |
Anonymous
That seems about right from what I've seen. I think what a lot of parents aren't realizing is how ED and SCEA factor into admissions for high performing students. There is no advantage to applying early to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, or Stanford if they are applying without a profound hook. MIT does it's own thing and there's no meaningful difference one way or another. But many of these high performing students are shooting an early binding app to Duke, Cornell, Vanderbilt, Rice, Northwestern, Chicago, Brown, Columbia, and Penn, where applying early does make a difference. Most of the RD Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford acceptances these days are ED rejects from other schools. It's a different calculation these days for top students. ED/SCEA and the emphasis on particular hooks have changed calculations for many top students. And both Duke and Northwestern are on top of that, whereas the top Ivy League schools are la-di-da, and we are 400 years old and whatever. So they are getting the detritus and fall back options in RD when ED and SCEA didn't work out for students. Basically, all the energy is directed at ED schools, and then it's shotgunning at T20 schools in RD and seeing what sticks. But both Duke and Northwestern are pretty good with this reality, and both are getting great students by working in the real world. |