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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In reality, NU and Duke are literally filled with kids who either didn’t get into an Ivy or didn’t feel they had the stats to try[/quote]

Wrong wrong wrong. I know 2 kids who turned down Cornell for NU and one who had the stats for HYP who chose to ED at Duke.[/quote]

That seems about right from what I've seen. I think what a lot of parents aren't realizing is how ED and SCEA factor into admissions for high performing students. There is no advantage to applying early to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, or Stanford if they are applying without a profound hook. MIT does it's own thing and there's no meaningful difference one way or another. But many of these high performing students are shooting an early binding app to Duke, Cornell, Vanderbilt, Rice, Northwestern, Chicago, Brown, Columbia, and Penn, where applying early does make a difference. Most of the RD Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford acceptances these days are ED rejects from other schools. It's a different calculation these days for top students. ED/SCEA and the emphasis on particular hooks have changed calculations for many top students. And both Duke and Northwestern are on top of that, whereas the top Ivy League schools are la-di-da, and we are 400 years old and whatever. So they are getting the detritus and fall back options in RD when ED and SCEA didn't work out for students.

Basically, all the energy is directed at ED schools, and then it's shotgunning at T20 schools in RD and seeing what sticks. But both Duke and Northwestern are pretty good with this reality, and both are getting great students by working in the real world. [/quote]

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