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Anonymous wrote:It’s okay. Not WASP or really even Carleton level, but it’s a standard decent LAC with decent educators. Great for a long term career in Chicago.

This take is crazy. If Grinnell was in Western PA or the Berkshires, this board would be jocking it as much as Bowdoin. The school has tons of financial resources that it can bring to bear for students. Unfortunately, it’s biggest drawback is that it’s in the middle of nowhere Iowa. And Iowa winters are as tough as anywhere.

And you guys with the woke thing, jeez. Is it more woke than Haverford, Swat, Macalaster, Amherst, Hamilton, etc.? I doubt it. If that is really such a dealbreaker, I’m sure schools like St. Olaf, Dennison, Dickinson, Bucknell, Lafayette, Colgate, etc will fit the bill. Maybe Williams.

That’s why it isn’t a peer. It’s in a poor location with little impact on the coasts like the WASP colleges. It has money, but not more than its peers, and it really doesn’t have the best post grad outcomes. It’s at the level of Bryn Mawr.

Sigh. In terms of endowment per student, Grinnell's $1.454 million is ahead of every liberal arts college in the country except Amherst, Swarthmore and Pomona -- and more than double that of Bryn Mawr.

In terms of peer assessment, Grinnell is ranked eighth in the country, tied with Carleton, Davidson, Middlebury and Smith and ahead of Claremont McKenna, Wesleyan, Barnard -- and, again, Bryn Mawr.

Grinnell's 13 percent acceptance rate ranks it higher than all but the top handful of colleges. Bryn Mawr's acceptance rate is 31 percent.

Why are you so frustrated with the fact that grinnell is not at WASP level. It’s going to be okay.

I'd bet the so-called WASP presidents, senior administrators and faculty do, in fact, consider Grinnell to be at their level.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s okay. Not WASP or really even Carleton level, but it’s a standard decent LAC with decent educators. Great for a long term career in Chicago.

This take is crazy. If Grinnell was in Western PA or the Berkshires, this board would be jocking it as much as Bowdoin. The school has tons of financial resources that it can bring to bear for students. Unfortunately, it’s biggest drawback is that it’s in the middle of nowhere Iowa. And Iowa winters are as tough as anywhere.

And you guys with the woke thing, jeez. Is it more woke than Haverford, Swat, Macalaster, Amherst, Hamilton, etc.? I doubt it. If that is really such a dealbreaker, I’m sure schools like St. Olaf, Dennison, Dickinson, Bucknell, Lafayette, Colgate, etc will fit the bill. Maybe Williams.

That’s why it isn’t a peer. It’s in a poor location with little impact on the coasts like the WASP colleges. It has money, but not more than its peers, and it really doesn’t have the best post grad outcomes. It’s at the level of Bryn Mawr.

Well on this board, the WASPs, have no peers, right? The bottom just falls right out once you get past them. If we’re basing this on finance careers after graduation I could maybe buy into this nonsense but you just can’t convince me of the general premise. It’s not like Pomona rings out on the east coast either. For my money, there are 10 to 15 SLACs that lack the name recognition of the WASPs that are all “peers.” For them, fit/vibe is way more important way to distinguish them than where those schools fall on the US News rankings ( or at least it should). Grinnell is absolutely in that mix, and respectfully, I’m not sure Bryn Mawr is. Also, Grinnell’s endowment is 2.5 billion-ish which places it maybe 4th or 5th amongst LACS. If you want to slag off the school, you should maybe know something more about it other than it’s an hour plus outside of Des Moines.

This annoys me to the world’s end. Yes it does. You understand that Pomona grads aren’t stuck on an island in Claremont? They go to top grad schools, law school, and med school on the east coast. Same with Williams, Amherst, and Swarthmore to the west coast. They’re elite for a reason.

+1, people want to argue that grinnell’s reach is outside Chicago but they don’t believe Pomona has alum populated on the east coast? It’s the selective outrage that’s strange

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Anonymous wrote:Very very woke

The word you are looking for is “empathy” and “conscience” not “woke.”. People who bang on about “woke” are the same people who snicker about Alligator Auschwitz and frankly the people with brains and hearts are sick of your idiocy and selfishness and anger.

When you say “woke” i put you in the same bucket as Marjory Taylor “them libruls are controlling the weather” Green.

Also, Grinnell is an excellent school.

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WASP alum. I would have been happy to send my kid to Grinnell.

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Anonymous wrote:WASP alum. I would have been happy to send my kid to Grinnell.

-grinnell alum.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s okay. Not WASP or really even Carleton level, but it’s a standard decent LAC with decent educators. Great for a long term career in Chicago.

This take is crazy. If Grinnell was in Western PA or the Berkshires, this board would be jocking it as much as Bowdoin. The school has tons of financial resources that it can bring to bear for students. Unfortunately, it’s biggest drawback is that it’s in the middle of nowhere Iowa. And Iowa winters are as tough as anywhere.

And you guys with the woke thing, jeez. Is it more woke than Haverford, Swat, Macalaster, Amherst, Hamilton, etc.? I doubt it. If that is really such a dealbreaker, I’m sure schools like St. Olaf, Dennison, Dickinson, Bucknell, Lafayette, Colgate, etc will fit the bill. Maybe Williams.

That’s why it isn’t a peer. It’s in a poor location with little impact on the coasts like the WASP colleges. It has money, but not more than its peers, and it really doesn’t have the best post grad outcomes. It’s at the level of Bryn Mawr.

Well on this board, the WASPs, have no peers, right? The bottom just falls right out once you get past them. If we’re basing this on finance careers after graduation I could maybe buy into this nonsense but you just can’t convince me of the general premise. It’s not like Pomona rings out on the east coast either. For my money, there are 10 to 15 SLACs that lack the name recognition of the WASPs that are all “peers.” For them, fit/vibe is way more important way to distinguish them than where those schools fall on the US News rankings ( or at least it should). Grinnell is absolutely in that mix, and respectfully, I’m not sure Bryn Mawr is. Also, Grinnell’s endowment is 2.5 billion-ish which places it maybe 4th or 5th amongst LACS. If you want to slag off the school, you should maybe know something more about it other than it’s an hour plus outside of Des Moines.

This annoys me to the world’s end. Yes it does. You understand that Pomona grads aren’t stuck on an island in Claremont? They go to top grad schools, law school, and med school on the east coast. Same with Williams, Amherst, and Swarthmore to the west coast. They’re elite for a reason.

Ugh, settle down cowpolk. My point is that Pomona does not pass the sweatshirt test with John Q. Public. People “in the know” on the east coast obviously know what Pomona is and what it means, just as they do for Grinnell. But way more people who don’t spend time on this forum know what Penn State is but not Pomona. I say this as a parent of a student at a well known NESCAC school that no one in my family had ever heard of before DC chose it. My point was that suggesting those law, grad, and med schools don’t know what Grinnell is because PP doesn’t respect it is absurd . Apologies for taking Pomona’s name in vain.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s okay. Not WASP or really even Carleton level, but it’s a standard decent LAC with decent educators. Great for a long term career in Chicago.

This take is crazy. If Grinnell was in Western PA or the Berkshires, this board would be jocking it as much as Bowdoin. The school has tons of financial resources that it can bring to bear for students. Unfortunately, it’s biggest drawback is that it’s in the middle of nowhere Iowa. And Iowa winters are as tough as anywhere.

And you guys with the woke thing, jeez. Is it more woke than Haverford, Swat, Macalaster, Amherst, Hamilton, etc.? I doubt it. If that is really such a dealbreaker, I’m sure schools like St. Olaf, Dennison, Dickinson, Bucknell, Lafayette, Colgate, etc will fit the bill. Maybe Williams.

That’s why it isn’t a peer. It’s in a poor location with little impact on the coasts like the WASP colleges. It has money, but not more than its peers, and it really doesn’t have the best post grad outcomes. It’s at the level of Bryn Mawr.

Well on this board, the WASPs, have no peers, right? The bottom just falls right out once you get past them. If we’re basing this on finance careers after graduation I could maybe buy into this nonsense but you just can’t convince me of the general premise. It’s not like Pomona rings out on the east coast either. For my money, there are 10 to 15 SLACs that lack the name recognition of the WASPs that are all “peers.” For them, fit/vibe is way more important way to distinguish them than where those schools fall on the US News rankings ( or at least it should). Grinnell is absolutely in that mix, and respectfully, I’m not sure Bryn Mawr is. Also, Grinnell’s endowment is 2.5 billion-ish which places it maybe 4th or 5th amongst LACS. If you want to slag off the school, you should maybe know something more about it other than it’s an hour plus outside of Des Moines.

This annoys me to the world’s end. Yes it does. You understand that Pomona grads aren’t stuck on an island in Claremont? They go to top grad schools, law school, and med school on the east coast. Same with Williams, Amherst, and Swarthmore to the west coast. They’re elite for a reason.

Ugh, settle down cowpolk. My point is that Pomona does not pass the sweatshirt test with John Q. Public. People “in the know” on the east coast obviously know what Pomona is and what it means, just as they do for Grinnell. But way more people who don’t spend time on this forum know what Penn State is but not Pomona. I say this as a parent of a student at a well known NESCAC school that no one in my family had ever heard of before DC chose it. My point was that suggesting those law, grad, and med schools don’t know what Grinnell is because PP doesn’t respect it is absurd . Apologies for taking Pomona’s name in vain.

I wasn’t yelling at you so no need for passive aggression. Most people don’t know any liberal arts colleges, so I don’t get the point. People in New York and Boston who hire at elite firms know Pomona. Same is true to the east coast colleges to the west coast. If I go out to Santa Monica and ask people about Williams, they will have no idea what I’m talking about, but the employers in California know.

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Anonymous wrote:Grinnell and Carleton top 2 LACs in Midwest. Grinnell kids at all the top grad, law, med, mba programs.

This.

LACs are a fantastic option for kids planning on grad/professional school.

And Grenell very well known and well regarded by top grad programs.

Lots of different paths to success, plus a top notch education.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s okay. Not WASP or really even Carleton level, but it’s a standard decent LAC with decent educators. Great for a long term career in Chicago.

This take is crazy. If Grinnell was in Western PA or the Berkshires, this board would be jocking it as much as Bowdoin. The school has tons of financial resources that it can bring to bear for students. Unfortunately, it’s biggest drawback is that it’s in the middle of nowhere Iowa. And Iowa winters are as tough as anywhere.

And you guys with the woke thing, jeez. Is it more woke than Haverford, Swat, Macalaster, Amherst, Hamilton, etc.? I doubt it. If that is really such a dealbreaker, I’m sure schools like St. Olaf, Dennison, Dickinson, Bucknell, Lafayette, Colgate, etc will fit the bill. Maybe Williams.

That’s why it isn’t a peer. It’s in a poor location with little impact on the coasts like the WASP colleges. It has money, but not more than its peers, and it really doesn’t have the best post grad outcomes. It’s at the level of Bryn Mawr.

Sigh. In terms of endowment per student, Grinnell's $1.454 million is ahead of every liberal arts college in the country except Amherst, Swarthmore and Pomona -- and more than double that of Bryn Mawr.

In terms of peer assessment, Grinnell is ranked eighth in the country, tied with Carleton, Davidson, Middlebury and Smith and ahead of Claremont McKenna, Wesleyan, Barnard -- and, again, Bryn Mawr.

Grinnell's 13 percent acceptance rate ranks it higher than all but the top handful of colleges. Bryn Mawr's acceptance rate is 31 percent.

Why are you so frustrated with the fact that grinnell is not at WASP level. It’s going to be okay.

I'd bet the so-called WASP presidents, senior administrators and faculty do, in fact, consider Grinnell to be at their level.

DP.

Literally doesn’t matter. They’re close enough that there won’t be meaningful difference in education or outcomes, except if kid is intent on East Coast prestige job. (Yuck)

In which case they’d be better off and happier at Williams, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Very very woke

The word you are looking for is “empathy” and “conscience” not “woke.”. People who bang on about “woke” are the same people who snicker about Alligator Auschwitz and frankly the people with brains and hearts are sick of your idiocy and selfishness and anger.

When you say “woke” i put you in the same bucket as Marjory Taylor “them libruls are controlling the weather” Green.

Also, Grinnell is an excellent school.

Just so you know, when you bang on about "empathy" and "conscience," we put you in the same bucket as every other hypocritical, self-righteous sufferer of Bethesda Guilt.

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Anonymous wrote:Very very woke

The word you are looking for is “empathy” and “conscience” not “woke.”.

No, the word is still "woke". The same bucket as Judge Ketanji "I can't define what a woman is" Brown Jackson.

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https://www.grinnell.edu/news/company-grinnell-college-keeps-our-peer-institutions

I only checked Amherst, Bowdoin and Hamilton and they all listed Grinnell as a peer institution.

Grinnell like Carlton is a quiet prestige school - the degree will mean a lot when applying to a graduate and professional program or Chicago finance jobs - less so on Wall Street.

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Grinnell alum. I got a terrific education. I met smart, curious people who were interested in things — usually in many things. Some of my classmates went on to be very successful. Others led lives of service and quiet leadership, which had always been their intention. When I go to reunions, everyone is genuinely psyched to hang out with each other.

Being in Iowa was a huge and wonderful part of the experience for me. I went there from a big metro area, and I went to a different big city after graduating. I will be forever grateful that I got to attend college in a little town in Iowa.

It’s true that many people have never heard of Grinnell. But I’m always surprised by how many have.

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Grinnell is very prestigious. Too many Dcumers rip it for it's location, which is not nearly as bad as some would like you to believe.

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PP says lots of different paths to success? This is not a "my neighbor went to Utah State and is outperforming all his Ivy colleagues at work" type of thing. Grinnell is of course prestigious, full stop.