REA and EA - please help clarify for us

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Anonymous wrote:I am getting so confused and hoping to get clarification. We have looked this up and somehow getting different responses.

If one applies REA to, say Harvard, one obviously cannot ED anywhere else.

However, can one still apply EA to a private institution like MIT?
Can one apply EA to public institutions like the University of Maryland?

I don't believe you can apply EA to MIT if you apply REA to Harvard, however, you can apply EA to MIT and ED to anywhere else.

MIT just caveats that if you are accepted ED and MIT EA...well, you will be forced to turn down MIT as a result.

All the REA schools explicitly say you can apply EA to public institutions.

For real? I think we need to fire our college counselor, who said we can REA and EA anywhere, both public and private institutions.

Yeah, probably you should. It’s pretty clearly stated on the school’s website.

If you do REA at Harvard you cannot apply to any private institution ED, EA, or REA, and you can’t apply to a public ED.

If you look at the responses from above, it doesn't look like others agree with you. So which is it?

The last poster is correct

Again, for the cheap seats:

[/b]Selective/restricted early action (like HPY,etc. which is called SCEA or REA) you cannot apply early (ED or EA) to any other PRIVATE university.[/b]

You also cannot apply ED anywhere (public or private).

SCEA is short for: single choice early action

+100

It’s not that hard.

You can’t make it something you wish it were.

You need to make a choice. You can’t have it both ways.

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Anonymous wrote:MIT EA allows you ED elsewhere. But it defeat the purpose of MIT EA. If you are accepted to MIT EA and another college ED, you are obliged to go to the other college. You can just RD MIT if you want to ED somewhere.

None of the HYPMS early applications prohibits you from EA any other schools. For example, you can REA Harvard and EA Chicago, both are non-binding.

In case you didn't get in Harvard REA, you have a chance at Chicago. I believe Chicago EA has a very high acceptance rate (40% when combined with ED0, ED1, and ED2), many people apply early to Chicago.

[/b]With REA you cannot apply EA to any privates (or ED anywhere), only EA to public universities. So you could REA Harvard and EA UVA, but not EA Georgetown, for example.

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Somebody above thread has a counselor that does not know the rules or they intrepreyec what they were told incorrectly.

I hear what you are saying. That would mean my counselor is wrong. It would also mean the poster(s) up-thread is also wrong in saying that you can REA at Harvard and still EA at MIT (private institution). So essentially, the poster up-thread is in agreement with the counselor mentioned above.

Your counselor is a moron. Here is the exact text from the MIT webpage (https://mitadmissions.org/apply/firstyear/early-vs-regular/):

Early Action is an option for all applicants, domestic and international. Our Early Action isn’t single-choice, binding, or anything like that. If you choose to apply to MIT during Early Action, we do not place any limits on where else you may apply, nor do we require you to attend if admitted (though we sure hope you do!).

[b]However, if you apply to another school during Early Action that does have a restriction, MIT requires that you respect those rules. So for example, if you apply to another school that is “single choice”— meaning that you can only apply there during the early period—you may not simultaneously apply to MIT, and if you’re admitted somewhere “binding,” then even if we admit you, you must go there instead. So choose wisely!

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I sure hope they aren’t paying for that counselor yikes

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Anonymous wrote:MIT EA allows you ED elsewhere. But it defeat the purpose of MIT EA. If you are accepted to MIT EA and another college ED, you are obliged to go to the other college. You can just RD MIT if you want to ED somewhere.

None of the HYPMS early applications prohibits you from EA any other schools. For example, you can REA Harvard and EA Chicago, both are non-binding.

In case you didn't get in Harvard REA, you have a chance at Chicago. I believe Chicago EA has a very high acceptance rate (40% when combined with ED0, ED1, and ED2), many people apply early to Chicago.

[/b]With REA you cannot apply EA to any privates (or ED anywhere), only EA to public universities. So you could REA Harvard and EA UVA, but not EA Georgetown, for example.

I fixed the bolded.

Somebody above thread has a counselor that does not know the rules or they intrepreyec what they were told incorrectly.

I hear what you are saying. That would mean my counselor is wrong. It would also mean the poster(s) up-thread is also wrong in saying that you can REA at Harvard and still EA at MIT (private institution). So essentially, the poster up-thread is in agreement with the counselor mentioned above.

Your counselor is a moron. Here is the exact text from the MIT webpage (https://mitadmissions.org/apply/firstyear/early-vs-regular/):

Early Action is an option for all applicants, domestic and international. Our Early Action isn’t single-choice, binding, or anything like that. If you choose to apply to MIT during Early Action, we do not place any limits on where else you may apply, nor do we require you to attend if admitted (though we sure hope you do!).

[b]However, if you apply to another school during Early Action that does have a restriction, MIT requires that you respect those rules. So for example, if you apply to another school that is “single choice”— meaning that you can only apply there during the early period—you may not simultaneously apply to MIT, and if you’re admitted somewhere “binding,” then even if we admit you, you must go there instead. So choose wisely!

Relax, Karen, you don't have to bold everything.

It just means your MIT EA is meaningless. It explicitly says that if you’re admitted somewhere, so they didn't disallow you ED somewhere else. The consequence is that you have to go to your ED school if admitted. They won't put you in jail.

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Anonymous wrote:I am getting so confused and hoping to get clarification. We have looked this up and somehow getting different responses.

If one applies REA to, say Harvard, one obviously cannot ED anywhere else.

However, can one still apply EA to a private institution like MIT?
Can one apply EA to public institutions like the University of Maryland?

I don't believe you can apply EA to MIT if you apply REA to Harvard, however, you can apply EA to MIT and ED to anywhere else.

MIT just caveats that if you are accepted ED and MIT EA...well, you will be forced to turn down MIT as a result.

All the REA schools explicitly say you can apply EA to public institutions.

For real? I think we need to fire our college counselor, who said we can REA and EA anywhere, both public and private institutions.

Your counselor is correct. You can EA everywhere anytime no matter what. You can REA OR ED to a single school (unless you get a rejection from that REA or ED early enough to allow you to ED2 to a second school).

Stop. You are very wrong. If you REA yo one of the handful of schools that offer that, you can often apply EA to PUBLIC universities but you MAY NOT apply EA to PRIVATE colleges.

For example, from Harvard’s website:
“ If you are applying to Harvard under Restrictive Early Action, you may not apply to any other private institution under an Early Decision, Early Action, or Restrictive Early Action plan, or to a binding early program at a public university.”
https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/apply/first-year-applicants
(Scroll down and expand the What Is Restrictive Early Action? section.)

There are only a few schools that offer REA and all of them spell out the rules and restrictions on their websites. If you are unsure, just Google “[school] REA rules.”

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I know people got accepted EA MIT but rejected ED Columbia. It's not unusual some submit EA MIT and ED Columbia at the same time. The rule never prohibits you from doing that, it only requires you to take the consequence.

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Anonymous wrote:I am getting so confused and hoping to get clarification. We have looked this up and somehow getting different responses.

If one applies REA to, say Harvard, one obviously cannot ED anywhere else.

However, can one still apply EA to a private institution like MIT?
Can one apply EA to public institutions like the University of Maryland?

I don't believe you can apply EA to MIT if you apply REA to Harvard, however, you can apply EA to MIT and ED to anywhere else.

MIT just caveats that if you are accepted ED and MIT EA...well, you will be forced to turn down MIT as a result.

All the REA schools explicitly say you can apply EA to public institutions.

For real? I think we need to fire our college counselor, who said we can REA and EA anywhere, both public and private institutions.

Your counselor is correct. You can EA everywhere anytime no matter what. You can REA OR ED to a single school (unless you get a rejection from that REA or ED early enough to allow you to ED2 to a second school).

Stop. You are very wrong. If you REA yo one of the handful of schools that offer that, you can often apply EA to PUBLIC universities but you MAY NOT apply EA to PRIVATE colleges.

For example, from Harvard’s website:
“ If you are applying to Harvard under Restrictive Early Action, you may not apply to any other private institution under an Early Decision, Early Action, or Restrictive Early Action plan, or to a binding early program at a public university.”
https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/apply/first-year-applicants
(Scroll down and expand the What Is Restrictive Early Action? section.)

There are only a few schools that offer REA and all of them spell out the rules and restrictions on their websites. If you are unsure, just Google “[school] REA rules.”

As I pointed out pages earlier, if that EA is tied with a scholarship, YES you can REA Harvard and EA USC!
Read the rule again.

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It's very very complicated. One thing that is crystal clear is that you can't early two of the T5 at the same time!

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Do we have a college counselor on this website to answer this????

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Anonymous wrote:MIT EA allows you ED elsewhere. But it defeat the purpose of MIT EA. If you are accepted to MIT EA and another college ED, you are obliged to go to the other college. You can just RD MIT if you want to ED somewhere.

None of the HYPMS early applications prohibits you from EA any other schools. For example, you can REA Harvard and EA Chicago, both are non-binding.

In case you didn't get in Harvard REA, you have a chance at Chicago. I believe Chicago EA has a very high acceptance rate (40% when combined with ED0, ED1, and ED2), many people apply early to Chicago.

[/b]With REA you cannot apply EA to any privates (or ED anywhere), only EA to public universities. So you could REA Harvard and EA UVA, but not EA Georgetown, for example.

I fixed the bolded.

Somebody above thread has a counselor that does not know the rules or they intrepreyec what they were told incorrectly.

I hear what you are saying. That would mean my counselor is wrong. It would also mean the poster(s) up-thread is also wrong in saying that you can REA at Harvard and still EA at MIT (private institution). So essentially, the poster up-thread is in agreement with the counselor mentioned above.

Your counselor is a moron. Here is the exact text from the MIT webpage (https://mitadmissions.org/apply/firstyear/early-vs-regular/):

Early Action is an option for all applicants, domestic and international. Our Early Action isn’t single-choice, binding, or anything like that. If you choose to apply to MIT during Early Action, we do not place any limits on where else you may apply, nor do we require you to attend if admitted (though we sure hope you do!).

[b]However, if you apply to another school during Early Action that does have a restriction, MIT requires that you respect those rules. So for example, if you apply to another school that is “single choice”— meaning that you can only apply there during the early period—you may not simultaneously apply to MIT, and if you’re admitted somewhere “binding,” then even if we admit you, you must go there instead. So choose wisely!

Relax, Karen, you don't have to bold everything.

It just means your MIT EA is meaningless. It explicitly says that if you’re admitted somewhere, so they didn't disallow you ED somewhere else. The consequence is that you have to go to your ED school if admitted. They won't put you in jail.

Sorry about the bold. I was trying to bold the second paragraph—that you have to follow the rules of the other school. So if Harvard says you can’t apply to private schools (*except USC because of scholarships) it’s irrelevant that MIT doesn’t restrict you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do we have a college counselor on this website to answer this????

FFS, if you can’t figure this out (and several posters correctly stated it, but ppl don’t want to listen), then the Ivies/T10s aren’t for you or your kid.

It’s spelled out on the schools’ websites.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we have a college counselor on this website to answer this????

It seems pretty straightforward with the minor exception of USC (and in theory any other privates where you have to apply early to get scholarship consideration, though USC seems to be the only instance of this).

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Anonymous wrote:I am getting so confused and hoping to get clarification. We have looked this up and somehow getting different responses.

If one applies REA to, say Harvard, one obviously cannot ED anywhere else.

However, can one still apply EA to a private institution like MIT?
Can one apply EA to public institutions like the University of Maryland?

I don't believe you can apply EA to MIT if you apply REA to Harvard, however, you can apply EA to MIT and ED to anywhere else.

MIT just caveats that if you are accepted ED and MIT EA...well, you will be forced to turn down MIT as a result.

All the REA schools explicitly say you can apply EA to public institutions.

For real? I think we need to fire our college counselor, who said we can REA and EA anywhere, both public and private institutions.

PP - Yes, fire her! It’s shocking just how little some college counselors know. I dealt with one who did not know that MIT is not on the Common App. She insisted she’d had a student who had applied. Yeah, right!

OP — you CANNOT apply EA to private institutions like MIT if applying REA to Harvard. You cannot apply early to any other private institution except if a scholarship/special academic programs requires and early application and the result is non-binding.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we have a college counselor on this website to answer this????

Why?? Just because someone is a college counselor, that does not mean they know anything about all this.

[Anonymous]

You really don't need a counselor to tell you about these rules. You can study the rules on your own, and it's a fun exercise.