Which one out of these to EA, ED or RD?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Penn gives legacy preference at ED but not regular, so I would look into how big the ED advantage is for unhooked kids.


That's always not so transparent. However, legacy alone without a decent donation history doesn't help as much as it did 20 years ago, or even 5 years ago. Penn used to encourage legacy to ED, now they don't say that.


Interesting. Must have changed recently—was still true when my DD applied (2022).


Yeah it's recent.

In your case, how could you assume it's legacy that helped? How much did you donate in the past five years?
How do you know she wouldn't get in without legacy?

You never can be sure. It's non-transparent. A lot of it is in your head.
Anonymous
I would REA to Princeton because that's her first choice. If she doesn't, she'll always wonder what if.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The problem with SCEA to Princeton is you can’t apply early action to private colleges. Not sure if that makes a difference to you.


You can apply non-binding EA to PUBLIC universities- but not any privates EA/ED.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The problem with SCEA to Princeton is you can’t apply early action to private colleges. Not sure if that makes a difference to you.


You can apply non-binding EA to PUBLIC universities- but not any privates EA/ED.


Duh. I just saw you just said that. Sorry, pp^
Anonymous
I’d ED to CMU since the other two are unlikely as an unhooked kid without strong ECs. Just my opinion. She’ll be fine whatever she does.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’d ED to CMU since the other two are unlikely as an unhooked kid without strong ECs. Just my opinion. She’ll be fine whatever she does.


This is the worst ever seen.

ED 12% RD 11% acceptance rate for CMU. No ED advantage.

And CMU is not her dream school!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Personally I would EA Princeton RD Penn for high caliber applicants. but the choice is highly personal.


Is my DD considered high caliber? Not fishing for compliment...I thought she would be considered average strong. She is top 5 kids at a well respected feeder private that sends kids to these schools, but all she has is academics + being well liked by teachers.


If you are at a true feeder, ask your school counselor for advice. In mine, kids with this profile without outstanding awards or ECs always got into Penn level school in RD, after being rejected by T5 REA.


This!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d ED to CMU since the other two are unlikely as an unhooked kid without strong ECs. Just my opinion. She’ll be fine whatever she does.


This is the worst ever seen.

ED 12% RD 11% acceptance rate for CMU. No ED advantage.

And CMU is not her dream school!


Yea but this kid is likely to get into CMU and then can just be done with the horrific and stressful process and enjoy her senior year.
Anonymous
NP here. Helped a couple of CS kids last year. Like your DD, they had good SAT and top 5 at their respective schools. Both first gen. Both wanted to try for Harvard. I told them they would not get in. Told one to apply to Princeton early as she is from NJ and told the other from NY to ED to Cornell. They refused. Both were rejected at Harvard. The former is WL’ed at Princeton and the latter at Cornell. I believe they would at least be at ivies had they listened to my advice.

For your kid, I say CMU ED is her best shot at getting into one of these. Good luck to her!
Anonymous
CMU troll at work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:NP here. Helped a couple of CS kids last year. Like your DD, they had good SAT and top 5 at their respective schools. Both first gen. Both wanted to try for Harvard. I told them they would not get in. Told one to apply to Princeton early as she is from NJ and told the other from NY to ED to Cornell. They refused. Both were rejected at Harvard. The former is WL’ed at Princeton and the latter at Cornell. I believe they would at least be at ivies had they listened to my advice.

For your kid, I say CMU ED is her best shot at getting into one of these. Good luck to her!


Were they rejected from Harvard early, or after they were deferred? Obviously, the end result is the same. Did either of them apply to places like Dartmouth or Brown, which are way less competitive than Harvard? My point is that they could have gotten in the Ivies that are not as crazy difficult to get into than Harvard, which rejects over 97% of their applicants.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP here. Helped a couple of CS kids last year. Like your DD, they had good SAT and top 5 at their respective schools. Both first gen. Both wanted to try for Harvard. I told them they would not get in. Told one to apply to Princeton early as she is from NJ and told the other from NY to ED to Cornell. They refused. Both were rejected at Harvard. The former is WL’ed at Princeton and the latter at Cornell. I believe they would at least be at ivies had they listened to my advice.

For your kid, I say CMU ED is her best shot at getting into one of these. Good luck to her!


Were they rejected from Harvard early, or after they were deferred? Obviously, the end result is the same. Did either of them apply to places like Dartmouth or Brown, which are way less competitive than Harvard? My point is that they could have gotten in the Ivies that are not as crazy difficult to get into than Harvard, which rejects over 97% of their applicants.



PP you are living in 1995. Brown and Dartmouth are not "way less competitive than Harvard" anymore. The Brown acceptance rate for the class of 2025 was 5.4% (2537 accepted out of 46,568 applications), Dartmouth was 6.2% (1,749 accepted out of 28,357 applications), Harvard was 3.4% (1938 accepted at 57,435 applications.) Yes, Harvard is the most competitive of the three but the odds of any student getting into any of these schools are exceptionally low. For the OP's purposes, the same is true for Princeton - acceptance rate of 4.3% (37,601 applications total) and Penn (72k applications in 2025, no acceptance rate released.)
Anonymous
OP should look at their school's naviance data. Feeder schools have much higher internal acceptance rates than acceptance rate in general. Cornell, for example, would have a 35% acceptance rate in a true feeder school, Penn lower but a similar number around 30%. Talk to your school counselor and make a decision based on that conversation. Your school counselor should also be privy to hooks data regarding these schools.
Anonymous
brown is much easier ed than Harvard .. like MUCH easier.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP here. Helped a couple of CS kids last year. Like your DD, they had good SAT and top 5 at their respective schools. Both first gen. Both wanted to try for Harvard. I told them they would not get in. Told one to apply to Princeton early as she is from NJ and told the other from NY to ED to Cornell. They refused. Both were rejected at Harvard. The former is WL’ed at Princeton and the latter at Cornell. I believe they would at least be at ivies had they listened to my advice.

For your kid, I say CMU ED is her best shot at getting into one of these. Good luck to her!


Were they rejected from Harvard early, or after they were deferred? Obviously, the end result is the same. Did either of them apply to places like Dartmouth or Brown, which are way less competitive than Harvard? My point is that they could have gotten in the Ivies that are not as crazy difficult to get into than Harvard, which rejects over 97% of their applicants.



PP you are living in 1995. Brown and Dartmouth are not "way less competitive than Harvard" anymore. The Brown acceptance rate for the class of 2025 was 5.4% (2537 accepted out of 46,568 applications), Dartmouth was 6.2% (1,749 accepted out of 28,357 applications), Harvard was 3.4% (1938 accepted at 57,435 applications.) Yes, Harvard is the most competitive of the three but the odds of any student getting into any of these schools are exceptionally low. For the OP's purposes, the same is true for Princeton - acceptance rate of 4.3% (37,601 applications total) and Penn (72k applications in 2025, no acceptance rate released.)


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