Right to die for terminally ill

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Anonymous wrote:Its wrong to ask someone to kill you. You can refuse treatment or kill yourself. Putting that responsibility on another person is unnecessary and wrong.

YOU MORON, PEOPLE WHO ARE TERMINAL OFTEN CANNOT MOVE.

YOU MORON you can set up a Rube Goldberg with a gun or a guillotine and HAVE THE NON MOVING PERSON set it OFF with their BREATH. Then nobody is GUILTY!

(not sure why I did caps; maybe to mirror the weirdo who's typing IN ALL CAPS AND CALLING PEOPLE MORONS)

And, what if they are too weak or they don't know how to use a gun. And, the person helping them could be charged with murder. What if they miss or are injured, not killed instantly and its more pain and suffering. You want to use a gun, go for it, I don't. I want it to be painfree and peaceful. That's not peaceful.

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I work in healthcare and many of my coworkers as well as friends in healthcare have plans in our heads of how we would end our own suffering in certain situations that would be peaceful. Personally and professionally, I think it's cruel to force someone to live out the end of disease. We don't make our pets suffer.

That said, there are so many ethical issues involved I can't see it every being very widespread.

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My grandmother died in extreme pain and begged my Dad (who is a doctor) to put her put of her misery. I 100% support physician assisted suicide.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in healthcare and many of my coworkers as well as friends in healthcare have plans in our heads of how we would end our own suffering in certain situations that would be peaceful. Personally and professionally, I think it's cruel to force someone to live out the end of disease. We don't make our pets suffer.

That said, there are so many ethical issues involved I can't see it every being very widespread.

My dad had a massive heart attack. My sibling is a doctor and she convinced doctors to do the surgery. He was on a vent for a week and struggling before she was willling to let go. He would have been in a nursing home or rehab for months with the possibility of never getting his quality of life back with other issues. She refused to follow the DNR and she and he kept it from me so he had a horrific week of suffering. I don't get why not let people pass in peace either assisted or naturally.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a reason MAID is used and preferred largely by wealthy white men in places where it is allowed. They are the only ones that can have the confidence that they’ll control the process.

Uh, cite please. I know of two elderly WOMEN who have availed themselves of MAID due to debilitating conditions. Believe me, they were in control of the process.

Look at the published numbers.

Wealthy, privileged white women are the second most common, on average.

MAID is utilized primarily by those who do not have to fear coercion or discrimination by the medical establishment.

DP here. All this tells me is that is needs to be more widely available and doctors need to talk about it.

DP. And how do you propose to do this ethically? How do you propose to have healthcare providers do this who are part of a medical system that has systematically and widely discriminated against poor, non-white, and/or uneducated patients and that has discarded them and treated them badly their whole lives? How do you think they can possibly trust the medical system at this critical juncture when they have a lifetime of extremely reasonable skepticism?

I’m the Canadian PP who posted above and there are already serious issues in Canada with privileged and educated providers suggesting euthanasia to people whose greatest problem appears to be that they are poor, or have unstable housing. This is not a theoretical issue; this is happening now.

What I see in Canada is that the wealthy and privileged who want access to this in their own lives don’t particularly care if the system coerces poor and vulnerable people into ending their own lives, so long as those privileged people retain that access for when they want it. They seem to consider that a few eggs broken to make an omelette. To me, that is an utterly immoral position.

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Anonymous wrote:My grandmother died in extreme pain and begged my Dad (who is a doctor) to put her put of her misery. I 100% support physician assisted suicide.

I know a few husbands who would be willing to swear that their wives begged to be put out of their misery.

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"Canadian" poster should stop conflating issues and erecting strawmen. Right now he's not credible in the least. We need to expand the right to die. Just because you've convinced yourself it can never work, doesn't mean others can't benefit if they want.

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I’m the Canadian PP who posted above and there are already serious issues in Canada with privileged and educated providers suggesting euthanasia to people whose greatest problem appears to be that they are poor, or have unstable housing. This is not a theoretical issue; this is happening now.

This, plus we have people talking to AI chatbots that are convincing them to end it all also.

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Anonymous wrote:I can think of nothing more satisfying for a person with a terminal illness than sitting in a glass-paneled room overlooking the Swiss Alps, taking medication, and just falling into an eternal sleep.

I'd take my family & close friends, have a few days of good meals and wine and enjoyable conversation (to the extent this is physically possible), and then exit the earth.

How is this less preferrable than suffering for months or years in a hospital or some under-staffed memory care center?

This is such a rich, privileged outlook. My God. Nearly all people can’t afford to fly to Switzerland to die like this. They are in horrible nursing homes in the US, with bad insurance and low regulation.

The cost of a month at one of those horrible nursing homes likely is more than the envisioned death trip to Switzerland.

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Having watched my mother suffer terribly with terminal cancer in the last weeks of her life, I would 100% approve of a law allowing for people in such circumstances to choose to end their lives on their terms.

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Anonymous wrote:Would we ever pass such a law? Is this to lighten the burden of the patient or their family or the social healthcare budget?


"Terminally ill people with less than six months to live will have right to choose procedure after approval from doctors and panel"


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jun/20/assisted-dying-law-england-and-wales-bill-passed?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social_img&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1750426353

I had a cousin screaming in agony with bone cancer and her daughter begged for doctor to give her enough morphine to let her die. It took her another ten days to die in agony.

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I will never understand the cruelty of those who would deny right to die programs.

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Anonymous wrote:My grandmother died in extreme pain and begged my Dad (who is a doctor) to put her put of her misery. I 100% support physician assisted suicide.

I know a few husbands who would be willing to swear that their wives begged to be put out of their misery.

I have told my kids and husband to let me die and help me die if necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m okay with it in principle, but the slippery slope is real and very concerning.

Canada will be allowing it for people with mental illness, so not just for those who are terminally ill, and is exploring allowing it for “mature minors”.

Apparently they removed the previously required 10-day waiting period, and patients are now being euthanized the same day they ask for it.

Some of the cases listed in this article are disturbing. https://theconversation.com/ontario-chief-coroner-reports-raise-concerns-that-maid-policy-and-practice-focus-on-access-rather-than-protection-253917

The "slippery slope" concept is a myth in my opinion, that people use because everyone always brainwashes us that life has to be prolonged as much as possible and at pretty much all costs. If you're worried that someone is going to push their old man into signing euthanasia papers to collect the inheritance, or that an angsty teen will want to commit suicide when they might have a relatively happy life instead if they get treatment... I don't know what to tell you. There will always be what-ifs, but the paperwork and processes around euthanasia are so burdensome, I don't think many people will make the wrong choices, or be forced into choices they don't want. Right now most people in terrible pain who want to die do NOT have access to euthanasia around the world. Their needs are more important than the few that might get it when it's not needed.

So, people should live years and suffer because you are worried about a money grab. This isn't about a teen wanting to commit suicide but if their health issues or depression are bad enough, why shouldn't they get the choice. Why do you think you should decide for others how to live their life? I don't know my life without pain. You have no idea how bad it can get until you have to experience it daily. I go months without leaving the house due to my health issues.

The actual "money grab" is the medical system in the US that keeps people alive for years in memory care, draining their families' and eventually taxpayers' monies.

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I can't believe most here don't see the slippery slope. Once you decide whether you want to live is a balance of the pain vs happiness in life and all those who really suffer are eliminated from this earth, them even the mediocre sufferings of today will seem unbearable to you in the future. Because people look to others as sources of comfort and inspiration, once those who live hard lives are gone, the entire center shifts. If you get into an accident today and lose your legs but you see all these examples of people who have persevered and found fulfilling lives following similar accidents, that gives you strength to go on. If all these people offed themselves then you will also likely quickly decide to off yourself were you to suffer that accident.