WASP/adjacent top LACs for Orchestra

[Anonymous]

You don't get admission points for being a White Anglo Saxon Protestant, unless the comes with a lot of old money and a very prominent family name...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don't get admission points for being a White Anglo Saxon Protestant, unless the comes with a lot of old money and a very prominent family name...

You're not funny.

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Anonymous wrote:The students in the Amherst Symphony Orchestra really don't like their conductor.

Please say more. That was not our impression when my visiting DC sat in.

You generally shouldn't get any impression from a one day sit in on a rehearsal?

Yet you won’t elaborate? Okay.

I'm confused by your passive aggressive response, and what you expect to be elaborated on. In your day to day job, do you openly show who you dislike in your workplace? No, because you still have to work with those people and you put your big girl pants on and carry on. Orchestra is much the same. You have to keep face during rehearsal, because there is nothing productive about pi$$ing off your conductor.

Still no details.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The students in the Amherst Symphony Orchestra really don't like their conductor.

Please say more. That was not our impression when my visiting DC sat in.

You generally shouldn't get any impression from a one day sit in on a rehearsal?

Yet you won’t elaborate? Okay.

I'm confused by your passive aggressive response, and what you expect to be elaborated on. In your day to day job, do you openly show who you dislike in your workplace? No, because you still have to work with those people and you put your big girl pants on and carry on. Orchestra is much the same. You have to keep face during rehearsal, because there is nothing productive about pi$$ing off your conductor.

Still no details.

On what? I asked you a clarifying question, maybe answer if you want an appropriate response. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The students in the Amherst Symphony Orchestra really don't like their conductor.

Please say more. That was not our impression when my visiting DC sat in.

You generally shouldn't get any impression from a one day sit in on a rehearsal?

Yet you won’t elaborate? Okay.

I'm confused by your passive aggressive response, and what you expect to be elaborated on. In your day to day job, do you openly show who you dislike in your workplace? No, because you still have to work with those people and you put your big girl pants on and carry on. Orchestra is much the same. You have to keep face during rehearsal, because there is nothing productive about pi$$ing off your conductor.

Still no details.

On what? I asked you a clarifying question, maybe answer if you want an appropriate response. Thanks.

NP. Talk about passive aggressive. I would suggest disregarding this person's post, OP, since it is nothing more than the vaguest hearsay.

I agree with a PP that watching available performances on-line is the way to go. Here is a recent Amherst one. Not at the level of Williams or Oberlin, for the reasons already stated, but certainly solid. A parent on another thread several months ago said the orchestra is quite large now, ~100 students I believe, and a nice social group. Sorry I don't remember which thread, or I would post it.

https://youtu.be/t-R0Dx8gYbc?si=RgE3iWO8k3zCbfl1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The students in the Amherst Symphony Orchestra really don't like their conductor.

Please say more. That was not our impression when my visiting DC sat in.

You generally shouldn't get any impression from a one day sit in on a rehearsal?

Yet you won’t elaborate? Okay.

I'm confused by your passive aggressive response, and what you expect to be elaborated on. In your day to day job, do you openly show who you dislike in your workplace? No, because you still have to work with those people and you put your big girl pants on and carry on. Orchestra is much the same. You have to keep face during rehearsal, because there is nothing productive about pi$$ing off your conductor.

Still no details.

On what? I asked you a clarifying question, maybe answer if you want an appropriate response. Thanks.

NP. Talk about passive aggressive. I would suggest disregarding this person's post, OP, since it is nothing more than the vaguest hearsay.

I agree with a PP that watching available performances on-line is the way to go. Here is a recent Amherst one. Not at the level of Williams or Oberlin, for the reasons already stated, but certainly solid. A parent on another thread several months ago said the orchestra is quite large now, ~100 students I believe, and a nice social group. Sorry I don't remember which thread, or I would post it.

https://youtu.be/t-R0Dx8gYbc?si=RgE3iWO8k3zCbfl1

Yes, I am now being passive aggressive because that individual has refused to give clarifying detail on what she’s even asking about. I dislike parents like you who try to battle for ops attention and tell people to disregard others opinion, because you want to throw in your own perspective- let us all participate.

Apologies that me implying that you shouldn’t make assumptions on an orchestra based off of one day sitting in rehearsal, I guess we’re only a judgmental community here. It’s no different than advice that the tour guide shouldn’t be your entire reason for deciding to apply/reject a college.

I agree with the rest of your comment but don’t appreciate the unnecessary censoring

[Anonymous]

OP consider ED ‘g an ivy with a similar success rate from the school. Cornell and Dartmouth and the past 2 yrs Columbia have been much easier in ED than other ivies. Cornell has a sizable orchestra though the undergrad population is more like a public. LACs are going to have issues getting a full orchestra but as yours plays violin or cello based on what you said, that will not be a boost merely being top level youth locally

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Anonymous wrote:OP consider ED ‘g an ivy with a similar success rate from the school. Cornell and Dartmouth and the past 2 yrs Columbia have been much easier in ED than other ivies. Cornell has a sizable orchestra though the undergrad population is more like a public. LACs are going to have issues getting a full orchestra but as yours plays violin or cello based on what you said, that will not be a boost merely being top level youth locally

Sorry but what is your background in music? Every lac, other than Amherst, mentioned has a full orchestra.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP consider ED ‘g an ivy with a similar success rate from the school. Cornell and Dartmouth and the past 2 yrs Columbia have been much easier in ED than other ivies. Cornell has a sizable orchestra though the undergrad population is more like a public. LACs are going to have issues getting a full orchestra but as yours plays violin or cello based on what you said, that will not be a boost merely being top level youth locally

Stop spewing nonsense - you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. All the top LACs have full orchestras with ample competition for spots.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP consider ED ‘g an ivy with a similar success rate from the school. Cornell and Dartmouth and the past 2 yrs Columbia have been much easier in ED than other ivies. Cornell has a sizable orchestra though the undergrad population is more like a public. LACs are going to have issues getting a full orchestra but as yours plays violin or cello based on what you said, that will not be a boost merely being top level youth locally

Stop spewing nonsense - you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. All the top LACs have full orchestras with ample competition for spots.

Williams orchestra is literally filled by community members and faculty. This is such an obvious lie that I cannot believe you're spewing this nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:You don't get admission points for being a White Anglo Saxon Protestant, unless the comes with a lot of old money and a very prominent family name...

You're not funny.

Well, what else would you say WASP stands for, if not white anglo saxon protestant?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't get admission points for being a White Anglo Saxon Protestant, unless the comes with a lot of old money and a very prominent family name...

You're not funny.

Well, what else would you say WASP stands for, if not white anglo saxon protestant?

Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona...something inferable from "top LACs" in the title.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't get admission points for being a White Anglo Saxon Protestant, unless the comes with a lot of old money and a very prominent family name...

You're not funny.

Well, what else would you say WASP stands for, if not white anglo saxon protestant?

There aren’t many WASPs in the orchestras.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oberlin is definitely worth a look, the college and conservatory programs are well-integrated and there’s a lot of crossover.

I’ve also heard St. Olaf, Bard, and Lawrence are known for strong orchestra programs.

Haverford is another liberal arts college with a strong music program (they have a joint orchestra with Bryn Mawr).

Anyone know about Bowdoin or Wesleyan orchestras?

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Anonymous wrote:Oberlin is definitely worth a look, the college and conservatory programs are well-integrated and there’s a lot of crossover.

I’ve also heard St. Olaf, Bard, and Lawrence are known for strong orchestra programs.

Haverford is another liberal arts college with a strong music program (they have a joint orchestra with Bryn Mawr).

Anyone know about Bowdoin or Wesleyan orchestras?

Wesleyan's is much better than Bowdoin's, which is particularly bad. Rural Maine with a small student body isn't going to give you comprehensive talent.