Freshman: Algebra 1 placement ??

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Anonymous wrote:My DS went to public school (Fairfax County) through 8th grade and took Algebra 1 in 8th grade. When he took the math placement test for his private high school, he was placed into Algebra Honors. I heard of parents pushing back on their child's placement but we did not. He was in honors all throughout high school in math (Algebra 1 Honors, Geometry Honors, Algebra 2 Honors, Pre Calc Honors and also took AP Statistics) and had an A in every math class. In hindsight, he probably could have taken Geometry in 9th and been ok. When I asked him if he wished he had gone straight to Geometry in 9th, he said he really liked having the strong math foundation. He just graduated from college - and majored in math.

When was this? College admissions have gotten way more competitive in the past several years. Finishing pre-calc in 12th at a school in that offers AP Stats, AB, BC, Multi, Diff EQ, etc would put them in the lowest rigor math for 12th. Most colleges would want at least Calc AB or AP Stats if it was available.

For the hundredth time, this is not how "rigor" works for college applications. Rigor means taking the most demanding option for the students current level, be it honors or AP if available. It does not mean skipping ahead.

No.

That’s not anyone’s definition of rigor.

All you are defining is the student took what they felt would be most achievable for them. Thats fine. Sure it’s rigorous for them since they’re tapped out.

Rigor, for colleges apps, would be taking the most challenging courses the school or program has on offer.

Skipping ahead is neither here nor there. sWW has its top quartile math students take Alg 1 and geometry as two separate courses during 9th grade. They are standalone courses and helpful for grade 10-12 sciences, math tracks, and future standardized tests.

[Anonymous]

The math class that is the easiest to do is summer Geometry between 9th and 10th. Or if your school allows it because your child has algebra and geometry background I would have your child take it this summer if the school will allow it.

[Anonymous]

Another option at many schools is to do a year of double math after algebra 1 - so take both geometry and algebra 2 in 10th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS went to public school (Fairfax County) through 8th grade and took Algebra 1 in 8th grade. When he took the math placement test for his private high school, he was placed into Algebra Honors. I heard of parents pushing back on their child's placement but we did not. He was in honors all throughout high school in math (Algebra 1 Honors, Geometry Honors, Algebra 2 Honors, Pre Calc Honors and also took AP Statistics) and had an A in every math class. In hindsight, he probably could have taken Geometry in 9th and been ok. When I asked him if he wished he had gone straight to Geometry in 9th, he said he really liked having the strong math foundation. He just graduated from college - and majored in math.

When was this? College admissions have gotten way more competitive in the past several years. Finishing pre-calc in 12th at a school in that offers AP Stats, AB, BC, Multi, Diff EQ, etc would put them in the lowest rigor math for 12th. Most colleges would want at least Calc AB or AP Stats if it was available.

For the hundredth time, this is not how "rigor" works for college applications. Rigor means taking the most demanding option for the students current level, be it honors or AP if available. It does not mean skipping ahead.

No.

That’s not anyone’s definition of rigor.

All you are defining is the student took what they felt would be most achievable for them. Thats fine. Sure it’s rigorous for them since they’re tapped out.

Rigor, for colleges apps, would be taking the most challenging courses the school or program has on offer.

Skipping ahead is neither here nor there. sWW has its top quartile math students take Alg 1 and geometry as two separate courses during 9th grade. They are standalone courses and helpful for grade 10-12 sciences, math tracks, and future standardized tests.

Are you saying 9th graders who take Algebra I are doomed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS went to public school (Fairfax County) through 8th grade and took Algebra 1 in 8th grade. When he took the math placement test for his private high school, he was placed into Algebra Honors. I heard of parents pushing back on their child's placement but we did not. He was in honors all throughout high school in math (Algebra 1 Honors, Geometry Honors, Algebra 2 Honors, Pre Calc Honors and also took AP Statistics) and had an A in every math class. In hindsight, he probably could have taken Geometry in 9th and been ok. When I asked him if he wished he had gone straight to Geometry in 9th, he said he really liked having the strong math foundation. He just graduated from college - and majored in math.

When was this? College admissions have gotten way more competitive in the past several years. Finishing pre-calc in 12th at a school in that offers AP Stats, AB, BC, Multi, Diff EQ, etc would put them in the lowest rigor math for 12th. Most colleges would want at least Calc AB or AP Stats if it was available.

For the hundredth time, this is not how "rigor" works for college applications. Rigor means taking the most demanding option for the students current level, be it honors or AP if available. It does not mean skipping ahead.

No.

That’s not anyone’s definition of rigor.

All you are defining is the student took what they felt would be most achievable for them. Thats fine. Sure it’s rigorous for them since they’re tapped out.

Rigor, for colleges apps, would be taking the most challenging courses the school or program has on offer.

Skipping ahead is neither here nor there. sWW has its top quartile math students take Alg 1 and geometry as two separate courses during 9th grade. They are standalone courses and helpful for grade 10-12 sciences, math tracks, and future standardized tests.

Are you saying 9th graders who take Algebra I are doomed?

No... they certainly arent... but they also are not getting into t20 schools unless something else is giving them a hook. T50 may even be dicey without calculus if the other 90% of the grade got to calc or AP stat

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS went to public school (Fairfax County) through 8th grade and took Algebra 1 in 8th grade. When he took the math placement test for his private high school, he was placed into Algebra Honors. I heard of parents pushing back on their child's placement but we did not. He was in honors all throughout high school in math (Algebra 1 Honors, Geometry Honors, Algebra 2 Honors, Pre Calc Honors and also took AP Statistics) and had an A in every math class. In hindsight, he probably could have taken Geometry in 9th and been ok. When I asked him if he wished he had gone straight to Geometry in 9th, he said he really liked having the strong math foundation. He just graduated from college - and majored in math.

When was this? College admissions have gotten way more competitive in the past several years. Finishing pre-calc in 12th at a school in that offers AP Stats, AB, BC, Multi, Diff EQ, etc would put them in the lowest rigor math for 12th. Most colleges would want at least Calc AB or AP Stats if it was available.

For the hundredth time, this is not how "rigor" works for college applications. Rigor means taking the most demanding option for the students current level, be it honors or AP if available. It does not mean skipping ahead.

No.

That’s not anyone’s definition of rigor.

All you are defining is the student took what they felt would be most achievable for them. Thats fine. Sure it’s rigorous for them since they’re tapped out.

Rigor, for colleges apps, would be taking the most challenging courses the school or program has on offer.

Skipping ahead is neither here nor there. sWW has its top quartile math students take Alg 1 and geometry as two separate courses during 9th grade. They are standalone courses and helpful for grade 10-12 sciences, math tracks, and future standardized tests.

I thought top quartile math students at SWW took Algebra II or Precalc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS went to public school (Fairfax County) through 8th grade and took Algebra 1 in 8th grade. When he took the math placement test for his private high school, he was placed into Algebra Honors. I heard of parents pushing back on their child's placement but we did not. He was in honors all throughout high school in math (Algebra 1 Honors, Geometry Honors, Algebra 2 Honors, Pre Calc Honors and also took AP Statistics) and had an A in every math class. In hindsight, he probably could have taken Geometry in 9th and been ok. When I asked him if he wished he had gone straight to Geometry in 9th, he said he really liked having the strong math foundation. He just graduated from college - and majored in math.

When was this? College admissions have gotten way more competitive in the past several years. Finishing pre-calc in 12th at a school in that offers AP Stats, AB, BC, Multi, Diff EQ, etc would put them in the lowest rigor math for 12th. Most colleges would want at least Calc AB or AP Stats if it was available.

For the hundredth time, this is not how "rigor" works for college applications. Rigor means taking the most demanding option for the students current level, be it honors or AP if available. It does not mean skipping ahead.

No.

That’s not anyone’s definition of rigor.

All you are defining is the student took what they felt would be most achievable for them. Thats fine. Sure it’s rigorous for them since they’re tapped out.

Rigor, for colleges apps, would be taking the most challenging courses the school or program has on offer.

Skipping ahead is neither here nor there. sWW has its top quartile math students take Alg 1 and geometry as two separate courses during 9th grade. They are standalone courses and helpful for grade 10-12 sciences, math tracks, and future standardized tests.

I thought top quartile math students at SWW took Algebra II or Precalc

Not all dcps middle schools offer algebra 1. SWW has the more difficult task of taking undereducated but smart kids and catching them up.

[Anonymous]

My child is in the same boat. Took Alg 1 in 8th and tested back into it for 9th. My plan is to see how DC does—could get an A and then do honors math track going forward (likely path) or double up on math sophomore year. I worry about a summer geometry course not being enough to do well on those SAT questions. I think it will be fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS went to public school (Fairfax County) through 8th grade and took Algebra 1 in 8th grade. When he took the math placement test for his private high school, he was placed into Algebra Honors. I heard of parents pushing back on their child's placement but we did not. He was in honors all throughout high school in math (Algebra 1 Honors, Geometry Honors, Algebra 2 Honors, Pre Calc Honors and also took AP Statistics) and had an A in every math class. In hindsight, he probably could have taken Geometry in 9th and been ok. When I asked him if he wished he had gone straight to Geometry in 9th, he said he really liked having the strong math foundation. He just graduated from college - and majored in math.

When was this? College admissions have gotten way more competitive in the past several years. Finishing pre-calc in 12th at a school in that offers AP Stats, AB, BC, Multi, Diff EQ, etc would put them in the lowest rigor math for 12th. Most colleges would want at least Calc AB or AP Stats if it was available.

For the hundredth time, this is not how "rigor" works for college applications. Rigor means taking the most demanding option for the students current level, be it honors or AP if available. It does not mean skipping ahead.

No.

That’s not anyone’s definition of rigor.

All you are defining is the student took what they felt would be most achievable for them. Thats fine. Sure it’s rigorous for them since they’re tapped out.

Rigor, for colleges apps, would be taking the most challenging courses the school or program has on offer.

Skipping ahead is neither here nor there. sWW has its top quartile math students take Alg 1 and geometry as two separate courses during 9th grade. They are standalone courses and helpful for grade 10-12 sciences, math tracks, and future standardized tests.

I thought top quartile math students at SWW took Algebra II or Precalc

Not all dcps middle schools offer algebra 1. SWW has the more difficult task of taking undereducated but smart kids and catching them up.

Off topic for Private board but Hardy + Deal make up 40-50% of SWW. Most of those kids complete Geometry in 8th grade.

[Anonymous]

My DC took Algebra 1 Honors in 7th and will take Geometry Honors this year (8th).

[Anonymous]

On the rigor question, there’s no way one class will rule out a kid from a T20 school, that’s just not the way admissions works at most colleges and universities. The student can explain what happened in middle school in the “extra notes” section.

That said, it’s pretty standard to do BC Calc by senior year at most private schools.