DCTAG at risk!

[Anonymous]

Are people really advocating that DC become just a government business district, with federal buildings -- and that's it? No real families making homes, enlivening streets beyond the M-F, 9-to-5? Is the best solution people can muster is that all families move out (and you're just stupid if you haven't moved out)?

Until or unless land is ceded to MD or VA, there needs to be a solution for the 700k people who live in DC. And UDC isn't it. Quality aside, the school doesn't offer a full slate of popular majors and it only offer associate/community college degrees for many. TAG isn't perfect but its something. And it matters to many families.

It's sad, but not surprising, how little empathy for people have for others these days. If you're not sympathetic to DC parents on this site, maybe get off a site called DC URBAN MOMS AND DADS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the DC TAG is not federally funded, hopefully more states will start to offer in-state rates to DC residents. If they don't want to potentially lose the enrollment (or even gain some extra students), they will make that move (especially Maryland, VA and public HBCU's). It was better than nothing, but the DC TAG was not keeping up with the difference between in-state and out-of-state tuition of many universities (versus when the program was introduced). Other tri-state or border states regions give in-state tuition so hopefully this is something that can be an alternative.

I get why tri-state or border states might do it with reciprocal benefits, but tbh I do not understand what Maryland or Virginia have to gain by offering this to DC, which does not have any desirable in-state options that Marylanders or Virginians could benefit from.

Let’s be realistic. The states schools in MD and VA don’t need more students. They have more applicants than spots. it’s gotten ultra competitive at U of MD and U of VA not to mention other schools. They are not going to offer DC residents in state tuition when they can’t even meet their own needs in their state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the DC TAG is not federally funded, hopefully more states will start to offer in-state rates to DC residents. If they don't want to potentially lose the enrollment (or even gain some extra students), they will make that move (especially Maryland, VA and public HBCU's). It was better than nothing, but the DC TAG was not keeping up with the difference between in-state and out-of-state tuition of many universities (versus when the program was introduced). Other tri-state or border states regions give in-state tuition so hopefully this is something that can be an alternative.

I get why tri-state or border states might do it with reciprocal benefits, but tbh I do not understand what Maryland or Virginia have to gain by offering this to DC, which does not have any desirable in-state options that Marylanders or Virginians could benefit from.

Let’s be realistic. The states schools in MD and VA don’t need more students. They have more applicants than spots. it’s gotten ultra competitive at U of MD and U of VA not to mention other schools. They are not going to offer DC residents in state tuition when they can’t even meet their own needs in their state.

Also what reciprocal benefits?? UDC? Seriously

[Anonymous]

There is so much scholarship money floating around these days. Don’t rely on DC Tag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've never understood this idea that DC residents have little power to do anything. DC residents have a unique ability to make life very unpleasant for the House and Senate and their staff. It's just no one cares enough.

Ehh. As someone who has talked to reps regarding DC matters I promise they don't care how long you sit in their office. They see themselves as only beholden to their constituents (and their lobbyists which they'll never say). They'll pawn you off to junior staff.

Unless you can make their lives personally miserable by proximity they absolutely do not care.

This is the true..walk around as stalkers or worse..These people don't even care about their own constituents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the DC TAG is not federally funded, hopefully more states will start to offer in-state rates to DC residents. If they don't want to potentially lose the enrollment (or even gain some extra students), they will make that move (especially Maryland, VA and public HBCU's). It was better than nothing, but the DC TAG was not keeping up with the difference between in-state and out-of-state tuition of many universities (versus when the program was introduced). Other tri-state or border states regions give in-state tuition so hopefully this is something that can be an alternative.

I get why tri-state or border states might do it with reciprocal benefits, but tbh I do not understand what Maryland or Virginia have to gain by offering this to DC, which does not have any desirable in-state options that Marylanders or Virginians could benefit from.

I agree that this is unlikely to happen, which is a shame. It would be fair reciprocity given all of the Maryland residents who send their kids to DC public and charter schools at our expense. (A independent audit of Jackson-Reed alone would yield dozens of Maryland residents per grade. Ask any J-R student.)

Also want to second the PP on DCTAG: it’s not a particularly difficult process, and the employees are super helpful. Yes, it doesn’t come close to covering the difference between in-state and OOS tuition, but seeing that $10k subtracted from your tuition bill every year is very nice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the DC TAG is not federally funded, hopefully more states will start to offer in-state rates to DC residents. If they don't want to potentially lose the enrollment (or even gain some extra students), they will make that move (especially Maryland, VA and public HBCU's). It was better than nothing, but the DC TAG was not keeping up with the difference between in-state and out-of-state tuition of many universities (versus when the program was introduced). Other tri-state or border states regions give in-state tuition so hopefully this is something that can be an alternative.

I get why tri-state or border states might do it with reciprocal benefits, but tbh I do not understand what Maryland or Virginia have to gain by offering this to DC, which does not have any desirable in-state options that Marylanders or Virginians could benefit from.

I agree that this is unlikely to happen, which is a shame. It would be fair reciprocity given all of the Maryland residents who send their kids to DC public and charter schools at our expense. (A independent audit of Jackson-Reed alone would yield dozens of Maryland residents per grade. Ask any J-R student.)

Also want to second the PP on DCTAG: it’s not a particularly difficult process, and the employees are super helpful. Yes, it doesn’t come close to covering the difference between in-state and OOS tuition, but seeing that $10k subtracted from your tuition bill every year is very nice.

In fairness to Maryland, I know a number of DC students who have attended UMCP at a discount, some for free.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the DC TAG is not federally funded, hopefully more states will start to offer in-state rates to DC residents. If they don't want to potentially lose the enrollment (or even gain some extra students), they will make that move (especially Maryland, VA and public HBCU's). It was better than nothing, but the DC TAG was not keeping up with the difference between in-state and out-of-state tuition of many universities (versus when the program was introduced). Other tri-state or border states regions give in-state tuition so hopefully this is something that can be an alternative.

Do any states currently do this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the DC TAG is not federally funded, hopefully more states will start to offer in-state rates to DC residents. If they don't want to potentially lose the enrollment (or even gain some extra students), they will make that move (especially Maryland, VA and public HBCU's). It was better than nothing, but the DC TAG was not keeping up with the difference between in-state and out-of-state tuition of many universities (versus when the program was introduced). Other tri-state or border states regions give in-state tuition so hopefully this is something that can be an alternative.

Do any states currently do this?

No. No they do not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the DC TAG is not federally funded, hopefully more states will start to offer in-state rates to DC residents. If they don't want to potentially lose the enrollment (or even gain some extra students), they will make that move (especially Maryland, VA and public HBCU's). It was better than nothing, but the DC TAG was not keeping up with the difference between in-state and out-of-state tuition of many universities (versus when the program was introduced). Other tri-state or border states regions give in-state tuition so hopefully this is something that can be an alternative.

Do any states currently do this?

No. No they do not.

Not specifically for DC residents, but many, many state schools offer “merit” discounts on OOS tuition in order to enroll OOS students. Even if you’re a Virginia resident, it’s not hard to find an OOS flagship you can attend for less than what you would pay to attend UVA or WM. (And I use scare quotes on “merit” because the academic requirements are often pretty low by DCUM standards.)

[Anonymous]

What's an OOS flagship? University of Idaho? Mississippi State?

If so, what you are suggesting doesn't really solve the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's an OOS flagship? University of Idaho? Mississippi State?

If so, what you are suggesting doesn't really solve the problem.

I’m sorry, I thought the problem was the cost of college. If the problem is something else, please spell it out.

[Anonymous]

A lot of the OOS state schools write the DC Tag money into their merit aid offer.

If I remember correctly Vermont and Clemson are two of these. The paperwork said something like" "$25K grant discount" and then the fine print specified "$10K from DC Tag, $15K from the University".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the DC TAG is not federally funded, hopefully more states will start to offer in-state rates to DC residents. If they don't want to potentially lose the enrollment (or even gain some extra students), they will make that move (especially Maryland, VA and public HBCU's). It was better than nothing, but the DC TAG was not keeping up with the difference between in-state and out-of-state tuition of many universities (versus when the program was introduced). Other tri-state or border states regions give in-state tuition so hopefully this is something that can be an alternative.

I get why tri-state or border states might do it with reciprocal benefits, but tbh I do not understand what Maryland or Virginia have to gain by offering this to DC, which does not have any desirable in-state options that Marylanders or Virginians could benefit from.

It would have benefits for the 2nd and 3rd tier VA and MD state schools, but not the flagships.

I could see VCU, UMBC, ODU and those types of schools seeing the benefit because they need more students period.

It’s possible they already offer the equivalent of in-state to induce DC kids to enroll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the DC TAG is not federally funded, hopefully more states will start to offer in-state rates to DC residents. If they don't want to potentially lose the enrollment (or even gain some extra students), they will make that move (especially Maryland, VA and public HBCU's). It was better than nothing, but the DC TAG was not keeping up with the difference between in-state and out-of-state tuition of many universities (versus when the program was introduced). Other tri-state or border states regions give in-state tuition so hopefully this is something that can be an alternative.

Do any states currently do this?

No. No they do not.

Yes they do. MN residents can attend WI and a couple other states for in state tuition and vice versa.