Cheating from this year?

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Anonymous wrote:Cheating has happened since the dawn of time.

Why are you so involved in your adult child's classes and exams? I'm a mother hen who parents my college aged autistic/ADHD son very closely, but even I don't post such nonsense.

I care because I’m paying $400k and also hope for some integrity in the world. Our leader supposedly had people take his SAT and college exams at Fordham according to a family member’s book. Look how great that’s going.

Then you're going to be sorely disappointed. What do you expect? Zero cheating? You seriously think that's going to happen?
Cheating is wrong, but people will continue doing it. There isn't more or less cheating, proportionally speaking, than in 500 CE when aspiring Chinese administrators began taking their civil service exams. People cheat on taxes, people seek to scam and defraud.

This is why there really isn't a point to this thread. Just make sure your kid is clean. Beyond that, there isn't much you can do.

I know cheating is going to happen. Perhaps naive but didn’t expect entire exams to be cut. Mine needs highest gpa possible for med/law and having all exams can be difference between an A or a B.

This is where you back off, OP. It's not grade school anymore. Your kid can deal. Hand wringing about an adult child's exam cancellation and a grade change is SO NOT a good look for you. You are beyond the helicopter parent stage and into pathology. People tried to tell you before, but you don't seem to get it.

No, and not offended by your comments, but entitled to your opinion. I don’t overly value most people’s on here. I was curious how you widespread it was these days. Think you can relax, you’re currently more bothered by me.

It’s widespread but you know that. I’m a HS teacher and have been doing this almost 30 years now. I work at a wealthy school with a lot of parents like you. Don’t be offended by that. It’s an observation.

What’s changed and gotten worse over the past 5-10 years is the lack of consequences for cheating. We used to give zeros or worse. Now there are warnings and mandatory retakes. They know nothing will happen if they are caught. Of course they are still doing this in college. They have grown up in an age of no hard consequences and retakes if they mess up, even on purpose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cheating has happened since the dawn of time.

Why are you so involved in your adult child's classes and exams? I'm a mother hen who parents my college aged autistic/ADHD son very closely, but even I don't post such nonsense.

I care because I’m paying $400k and also hope for some integrity in the world. Our leader supposedly had people take his SAT and college exams at Fordham according to a family member’s book. Look how great that’s going.

Then you're going to be sorely disappointed. What do you expect? Zero cheating? You seriously think that's going to happen?
Cheating is wrong, but people will continue doing it. There isn't more or less cheating, proportionally speaking, than in 500 CE when aspiring Chinese administrators began taking their civil service exams. People cheat on taxes, people seek to scam and defraud.

This is why there really isn't a point to this thread. Just make sure your kid is clean. Beyond that, there isn't much you can do.

I know cheating is going to happen. Perhaps naive but didn’t expect entire exams to be cut. Mine needs highest gpa possible for med/law and having all exams can be difference between an A or a B.

This is where you back off, OP. It's not grade school anymore. Your kid can deal. Hand wringing about an adult child's exam cancellation and a grade change is SO NOT a good look for you. You are beyond the helicopter parent stage and into pathology. People tried to tell you before, but you don't seem to get it.

No, and not offended by your comments, but entitled to your opinion. I don’t overly value most people’s on here. I was curious how you widespread it was these days. Think you can relax, you’re currently more bothered by me.

It’s widespread but you know that. I’m a HS teacher and have been doing this almost 30 years now. I work at a wealthy school with a lot of parents like you. Don’t be offended by that. It’s an observation.

What’s changed and gotten worse over the past 5-10 years is the lack of consequences for cheating. We used to give zeros or worse. Now there are warnings and mandatory retakes. They know nothing will happen if they are caught. Of course they are still doing this in college. They have grown up in an age of no hard consequences and retakes if they mess up, even on purpose.

Yes, I do know that. Perhaps I should have written more in original post. As much as I hear about it, I hadn’t heard of entire exams being canceled due to it. I was curious how often that happens at other schools. I wonder if this approach will be a deterrent or not? This was a large stem class full of pre-meds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Need to stop with the multiple choice tests. Let students use blue books to write out answers to questions. The real world is not multiple choice and kids raised cheating to a world class level during COVID.

What schools have multiple choice tests? Neither of mine had any

A great many these days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Need to stop with the multiple choice tests. Let students use blue books to write out answers to questions. The real world is not multiple choice and kids raised cheating to a world class level during COVID.

What schools have multiple choice tests? Neither of mine had any

A great many these days.

Yes. Large schools with large classes have MC exams recorded on scantron sheets.

[Anonymous]

It is so ridiculous the amount of cheating going on. Of course some kids were cheating years ago but now it is just so obvious and ridiculous. The average grade of an exam for first period will be a 78 and by the last period of day the average for the same subject like ap calculus will be 92. So many kids taking video/pictures of the exam, asking to go to the bathroom to look up answers on their phones, one kid goes up to ask a question to distract teacher while another kid takes pictures of test.

Now in first period my son says half the class misses class the day of the test because they were “sick” or had a medical appointment so they can get info on the test.

Everyone using ChatGPT, photo math, etc. for any take home assignment.

Of course there are some brilliant kids that aren’t cheating but they aren’t shining as much when cheaters are also getting the top score. It is working well for cheaters so they continue in college. Now add to that international students who don’t consider helping each other during a test cheating. Soororoties/fraternities with test files, students who are not above paying other students to take tests for them so now colleges are requiring showing ID’s for midterms /finals.