DC is getting a C+ in Advanced Calculus

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Anonymous wrote:DC is a rising senior (finishing junior right now). Rigorous private high school. Recovering a lot of points towards the end but just not enough. What is a realistic outlook on college application? Focusing on T40-60? Is that realistic? For context, B+ to A are considered good grades in DC’s school. DC gets mostly As in other courses, nothing below B+. Won’t major in math or engineering.

Hi OP please know that there are people in the private school universe who understand your dilemma and are pulling for your kid. We get it. Understand that very few kids are taking this class as a junior. Ask me how I know? I would set up an appointment with point of contact for your grade. Do not push this aside. You should be direct and say the facts-know how many kids take this class and bring up you are concerned that this will be lost in the mix. Put this on the school as to how they will figure this out. Work out a plan together on how to overcome this? Maybe it is an online class? Maybe it is taking over this summer? Maybe it is tutoring to make sure he rocks BC. The most important thing is respectfully make a point that if your kid was in public this would be a B plus because they get a point for AP on top of grade. Make sure you are all on same page. It is better to figure this out now than wait until senior year. If you are talking about a kid with mostly As and this is an anomaly then this should be used as an asset for applications. Understand that if you do not have this sort of curriculum you will not get advice on DCUM that will be helpful. Good luck and tell you kid he is awesome!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is a rising senior (finishing junior right now). Rigorous private high school. Recovering a lot of points towards the end but just not enough. What is a realistic outlook on college application? Focusing on T40-60? Is that realistic? For context, B+ to A are considered good grades in DC’s school. DC gets mostly As in other courses, nothing below B+. Won’t major in math or engineering.

Hi OP please know that there are people in the private school universe who understand your dilemma and are pulling for your kid. We get it. Understand that very few kids are taking this class as a junior. Ask me how I know? I would set up an appointment with point of contact for your grade. Do not push this aside. You should be direct and say the facts-know how many kids take this class and bring up you are concerned that this will be lost in the mix. Put this on the school as to how they will figure this out. Work out a plan together on how to overcome this? Maybe it is an online class? Maybe it is taking over this summer? Maybe it is tutoring to make sure he rocks BC. The most important thing is respectfully make a point that if your kid was in public this would be a B plus because they get a point for AP on top of grade. Make sure you are all on same page. It is better to figure this out now than wait until senior year. If you are talking about a kid with mostly As and this is an anomaly then this should be used as an asset for applications. Understand that if you do not have this sort of curriculum you will not get advice on DCUM that will be helpful. Good luck and tell you kid he is awesome!!

Our public 1/3rd get C's in Calc. Not sure where you get the idea this kid would have pulled a B+ at a public.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC is a rising senior (finishing junior right now). Rigorous private high school. Recovering a lot of points towards the end but just not enough. What is a realistic outlook on college application? Focusing on T40-60? Is that realistic? For context, B+ to A are considered good grades in DC’s school. DC gets mostly As in other courses, nothing below B+. Won’t major in math or engineering.

Hi OP please know that there are people in the private school universe who understand your dilemma and are pulling for your kid. We get it. Understand that very few kids are taking this class as a junior. Ask me how I know? I would set up an appointment with point of contact for your grade. Do not push this aside. You should be direct and say the facts-know how many kids take this class and bring up you are concerned that this will be lost in the mix. Put this on the school as to how they will figure this out. Work out a plan together on how to overcome this? Maybe it is an online class? Maybe it is taking over this summer? Maybe it is tutoring to make sure he rocks BC. The most important thing is respectfully make a point that if your kid was in public this would be a B plus because they get a point for AP on top of grade. Make sure you are all on same page. It is better to figure this out now than wait until senior year. If you are talking about a kid with mostly As and this is an anomaly then this should be used as an asset for applications. Understand that if you do not have this sort of curriculum you will not get advice on DCUM that will be helpful. Good luck and tell you kid he is awesome!!

Our public 1/3rd get C's in Calc. Not sure where you get the idea this kid would have pulled a B+ at a public.

They just mean that the C+, ordinarily a 2.3, would be a 3.3 with the GPA bump for taking an AP. Rigorous privates are too good for AP courses or GPA bumps, so kids like OP’s just get screwed.

[Anonymous]

I don't get what advanced calc is? Is it calc bc or ab or something else. Have him retake it and get a tutor.

[Anonymous]

Advanced is the name given to an AP class in private when they moved away from AP. Correct that public school gives a point bump to an AP class so yes a C in AP AB calc would look like a B on your transcript. OP this is urgent for you to discuss because Advanced is not always accepted for colleges who have so many people applying. Not all schools will recalculate Advanced for AP to give the benefit. This is an issue because the advanced in private may well be more difficult than AP. It is up to you to ask how your school will define this. I would start first with grade point of contact and then escalate if you are not satisfied. Remember college counseling follows whatever school rules are so important to talk to academic deans first.

[Anonymous]

Has your student set up a meeting with their Dean to get their advice and to discuss options - for any opportunity to improve grade or ways to mitigate for applications? Are there any more assessments or graded assigments? My private school senior had a very poor start to physics and was able to scrape out a b- with a lot of intense, last minute tutoring. They were applying ED, so it was high stress. Even with that b- reported to colleges for the first quarter, they still got accepted. I think it helped that the intended major was unrelated to that course and that all other grades and test scores were very strong. It's about everything, not just 1 grade. Look forward. Spend a lot of time on creating thoughtful, reflective essays and other things you can control. Good luck!!!

[Anonymous]

For the benefit of private parents: a “C+” on a public school transcript looks like a C+. The student also gets a bump on the computation of the GPA, but the grade written on the transcript is C+, and for colleges that ask students to self-report grades, the student will report a C+.

[Anonymous]

If you are applying to private colleges, i think the c+ will be looked at within context and 'holistically' IF you have an otherwise strong application and narrative. Plenty of private school kids get into great colleges with imperfect grades. For larger state universities, I think they look more at straight grades and gpa. We also go to a private without AP and weighted gpa, and this has been my observation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the benefit of private parents: a “C+” on a public school transcript looks like a C+. The student also gets a bump on the computation of the GPA, but the grade written on the transcript is C+, and for colleges that ask students to self-report grades, the student will report a C+.

Sorry not the case at all public schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is a rising senior (finishing junior right now). Rigorous private high school. Recovering a lot of points towards the end but just not enough. What is a realistic outlook on college application? Focusing on T40-60? Is that realistic? For context, B+ to A are considered good grades in DC’s school. DC gets mostly As in other courses, nothing below B+. Won’t major in math or engineering.

Hi OP please know that there are people in the private school universe who understand your dilemma and are pulling for your kid. We get it. Understand that very few kids are taking this class as a junior. Ask me how I know? I would set up an appointment with point of contact for your grade. Do not push this aside. You should be direct and say the facts-know how many kids take this class and bring up you are concerned that this will be lost in the mix. Put this on the school as to how they will figure this out. Work out a plan together on how to overcome this? Maybe it is an online class? Maybe it is taking over this summer? Maybe it is tutoring to make sure he rocks BC. The most important thing is respectfully make a point that if your kid was in public this would be a B plus because they get a point for AP on top of grade. Make sure you are all on same page. It is better to figure this out now than wait until senior year. If you are talking about a kid with mostly As and this is an anomaly then this should be used as an asset for applications. Understand that if you do not have this sort of curriculum you will not get advice on DCUM that will be helpful. Good luck and tell you kid he is awesome!!

Our public 1/3rd get C's in Calc. Not sure where you get the idea this kid would have pulled a B+ at a public.

They just mean that the C+, ordinarily a 2.3, would be a 3.3 with the GPA bump for taking an AP. Rigorous privates are too good for AP courses or GPA bumps, so kids like OP’s just get screwed.

You’re confused. You’re thinking a private school kid’s GPA with no grade bump will be compared to a public school kid’s GPA with a grade bump. Both transcripts will show the actual grade earned, without the grade bump added next to the course name.

Also, since OP said the kid is doing stuff to bring the grade up, the private school kid’s already has an advantage over my public school kid. You talk as if it is hard at privates only, and the kid would be skating through in public school.

My guess is at least some of this kid’s classmates have much higher than a C+.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the benefit of private parents: a “C+” on a public school transcript looks like a C+. The student also gets a bump on the computation of the GPA, but the grade written on the transcript is C+, and for colleges that ask students to self-report grades, the student will report a C+.

Sorry not the case at all public schools.

This is very rare then.

[Anonymous]

Also when you apply to some large schools they may expressly say they will not recalculate advanced classes that are not AP.
They will only give a point extra for AP so your kid may not make it beyond the algorithm. Suddenly the kid who took basic math and got an A looks better than your kid who took Advance AB calc as a junior and got a C plus. This is just one example. This could be the case comparing other classes ex Advanced English to regular English . College has become so complicated that these issues have to be worked out from private schools to keep up. Again simply talk to your school on how they will figure this out for fairness for students who take on these classes. I feel like the kids who fare better have parents who bring this up right away. If you wait until senior year then college counseling is so busy and your recommendations already written. It makes it harder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Advanced is the name given to an AP class in private when they moved away from AP. Correct that public school gives a point bump to an AP class so yes a C in AP AB calc would look like a B on your transcript. OP this is urgent for you to discuss because Advanced is not always accepted for colleges who have so many people applying. Not all schools will recalculate Advanced for AP to give the benefit. This is an issue because the advanced in private may well be more difficult than AP. It is up to you to ask how your school will define this. I would start first with grade point of contact and then escalate if you are not satisfied. Remember college counseling follows whatever school rules are so important to talk to academic deans first.

I have no idea what bump up points are but that's not at our public. If its AB, and your child is struggling they should take AB again or BC since the content of BC is just slightly more than AB. Your child doesn't know the material to move up to MV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also when you apply to some large schools they may expressly say they will not recalculate advanced classes that are not AP.
They will only give a point extra for AP so your kid may not make it beyond the algorithm. Suddenly the kid who took basic math and got an A looks better than your kid who took Advance AB calc as a junior and got a C plus. This is just one example. This could be the case comparing other classes ex Advanced English to regular English . College has become so complicated that these issues have to be worked out from private schools to keep up. Again simply talk to your school on how they will figure this out for fairness for students who take on these classes. I feel like the kids who fare better have parents who bring this up right away. If you wait until senior year then college counseling is so busy and your recommendations already written. It makes it harder.

This has nothing to do with public or private and colleges want the most rigour at your school. What it comes down to is that this kid is struggling with Calc AB. Parents should have gotten a tutor but didn't. So, now they should get a tutor for the summer and have him take AB again or BC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is a rising senior (finishing junior right now). Rigorous private high school. Recovering a lot of points towards the end but just not enough. What is a realistic outlook on college application? Focusing on T40-60? Is that realistic? For context, B+ to A are considered good grades in DC’s school. DC gets mostly As in other courses, nothing below B+. Won’t major in math or engineering.

Hi OP please know that there are people in the private school universe who understand your dilemma and are pulling for your kid. We get it. Understand that very few kids are taking this class as a junior. Ask me how I know? I would set up an appointment with point of contact for your grade. Do not push this aside. You should be direct and say the facts-know how many kids take this class and bring up you are concerned that this will be lost in the mix. Put this on the school as to how they will figure this out. Work out a plan together on how to overcome this? Maybe it is an online class? Maybe it is taking over this summer? Maybe it is tutoring to make sure he rocks BC. The most important thing is respectfully make a point that if your kid was in public this would be a B plus because they get a point for AP on top of grade. Make sure you are all on same page. It is better to figure this out now than wait until senior year. If you are talking about a kid with mostly As and this is an anomaly then this should be used as an asset for applications. Understand that if you do not have this sort of curriculum you will not get advice on DCUM that will be helpful. Good luck and tell you kid he is awesome!!

Our public 1/3rd get C's in Calc. Not sure where you get the idea this kid would have pulled a B+ at a public.

They just mean that the C+, ordinarily a 2.3, would be a 3.3 with the GPA bump for taking an AP. Rigorous privates are too good for AP courses or GPA bumps, so kids like OP’s just get screwed.

You’re confused. You’re thinking a private school kid’s GPA with no grade bump will be compared to a public school kid’s GPA with a grade bump. Both transcripts will show the actual grade earned, without the grade bump added next to the course name.

Also, since OP said the kid is doing stuff to bring the grade up, the private school kid’s already has an advantage over my public school kid. You talk as if it is hard at privates only, and the kid would be skating through in public school.

My guess is at least some of this kid’s classmates have much higher than a C+.

I can promise you very few private school kids take AB advanced calc as a junior. Those are facts. This poor kid should not feel like they are at a college disadvantage. This kid’s parents should ask the school how this will be managed comparing this class to what the rest
of the grade took junior year. This is tricky because there will be students from the school who take Advanced AB Calc senior year and that is also a fairly small universe because not everyone does this and not everyone takes math senior year . Parents should make sure this is included somehow.