Compacted math or not: implications for MS/HS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do teachers recommend students for compacted math in 4th or do test scores determine who gets into this option? My school is being silent.

Central office identifies people who should be placed based on MAP scores and district assessments, I believe. Schools can also add more students in.

[Anonymous]

My older kid was not in compacted math, but he was placed in AIM in 6th grade based on MAP by central office. He did very well and finishing Geometry in 8th grade now. I did have to work with him a lot in 6th grade due to gaps.

Based on his experience, I will suggest anyone to take comapt math if school is pacing you in it. You can always slow down but if kid is placed in AIM/equivalent in 6th grade based on score, not taking compact puts you in disadvantage.

Take compact math. It's not that high paced. They just cover a bit extra.

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I need advice from others on this:

My younger son is in compated math in 4th grade now. His teacher made him take middle school MAP and his score was very high. Elemetary school is suggesting to send him in Middle school AIM equivalent class when he goes to 5th grade for first period. I am conflicted by this because we will run into same problem in not having math courses in 8th grade and I would have to drive him to high school and then againt in 12th grade in HS drive him to some community college.

I am piggy banking on this thread. Any feedback from families who have done this? I am a math ensusiast. I work with my kid 2-3 hours in month but I don't teach him anything which is not getting taught in class so I was surprised. Negative of holding him back will be him getting bored, but I am not sure kids are ready for some concept in HS when they are so young.

Any advice will be highly appreciated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are her MAP M scores?

As a teacher, this should not be the only factor. Compacted math moves quickly. Kids who score high but take forever are not a good fit and get frustrated.

PP’s above are correct.

What is the issue with taking a long time on the map test? Other than those tend to be the more cautious or anxious kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are her MAP M scores?

As a teacher, this should not be the only factor. Compacted math moves quickly. Kids who score high but take forever are not a good fit and get frustrated.

PP’s above are correct.

What is the issue with taking a long time on the map test? Other than those tend to be the more cautious or anxious kids.

I am not the teacher, but MAP test is not a timed tests. Nothing wrong with taking extra time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My older kid was not in compacted math, but he was placed in AIM in 6th grade based on MAP by central office. He did very well and finishing Geometry in 8th grade now. I did have to work with him a lot in 6th grade due to gaps.

Based on his experience, I will suggest anyone to take comapt math if school is pacing you in it. You can always slow down but if kid is placed in AIM/equivalent in 6th grade based on score, not taking compact puts you in disadvantage.

Take compact math. It's not that high paced. They just cover a bit extra.

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I need advice from others on this:

My younger son is in compated math in 4th grade now. His teacher made him take middle school MAP and his score was very high. Elemetary school is suggesting to send him in Middle school AIM equivalent class when he goes to 5th grade for first period. I am conflicted by this because we will run into same problem in not having math courses in 8th grade and I would have to drive him to high school and then againt in 12th grade in HS drive him to some community college.

I am piggy banking on this thread. Any feedback from families who have done this? I am a math ensusiast. I work with my kid 2-3 hours in month but I don't teach him anything which is not getting taught in class so I was surprised. Negative of holding him back will be him getting bored, but I am not sure kids are ready for some concept in HS when they are so young.

Any advice will be highly appreciated.

I have no experience. If it were me, I would not do this because I have to work and I cannot afford to drive my kid around like this back and forth every day for a school year (I assume math class is every day). Kids are mean,just for a math subject, I don't want gossiping around from the class and save my hassle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My older kid was not in compacted math, but he was placed in AIM in 6th grade based on MAP by central office. He did very well and finishing Geometry in 8th grade now. I did have to work with him a lot in 6th grade due to gaps.

Based on his experience, I will suggest anyone to take comapt math if school is pacing you in it. You can always slow down but if kid is placed in AIM/equivalent in 6th grade based on score, not taking compact puts you in disadvantage.

Take compact math. It's not that high paced. They just cover a bit extra.

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I need advice from others on this:

My younger son is in compated math in 4th grade now. His teacher made him take middle school MAP and his score was very high. Elemetary school is suggesting to send him in Middle school AIM equivalent class when he goes to 5th grade for first period. I am conflicted by this because we will run into same problem in not having math courses in 8th grade and I would have to drive him to high school and then againt in 12th grade in HS drive him to some community college.

I am piggy banking on this thread. Any feedback from families who have done this? I am a math ensusiast. I work with my kid 2-3 hours in month but I don't teach him anything which is not getting taught in class so I was surprised. Negative of holding him back will be him getting bored, but I am not sure kids are ready for some concept in HS when they are so young.

Any advice will be highly appreciated.

I have no experience. If it were me, I would not do this because I have to work and I cannot afford to drive my kid around like this back and forth every day for a school year (I assume math class is every day). Kids are mean,just for a math subject, I don't want gossiping around from the class and save my hassle.

Thanks for sharing your opinion. Yes, Math class is everyday. I do have more flexibility with my time, but your are right about taking it on for the 6-8 years is a big commitment.

I would love to hear from anyone who has done it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are her MAP M scores?

As a teacher, this should not be the only factor. Compacted math moves quickly. Kids who score high but take forever are not a good fit and get frustrated.

PP’s above are correct.

What is the issue with taking a long time on the map test? Other than those tend to be the more cautious or anxious kids.

I am not the teacher, but MAP test is not a timed tests. Nothing wrong with taking extra time.

+1 And there's nothing wrong with being slower and methodical. I have a kid with slow processing speed who takes a long time on tests, but is always at a 98%+. He did well in compact math--it's not designed for Young Sheldons, it's designed to be faster than the regular MCPS math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are her MAP M scores?

As a teacher, this should not be the only factor. Compacted math moves quickly. Kids who score high but take forever are not a good fit and get frustrated.

PP’s above are correct.

What is the issue with taking a long time on the map test? Other than those tend to be the more cautious or anxious kids.

I am not the teacher, but MAP test is not a timed tests. Nothing wrong with taking extra time.

+1 And there's nothing wrong with being slower and methodical. I have a kid with slow processing speed who takes a long time on tests, but is always at a 98%+. He did well in compact math--it's not designed for Young Sheldons, it's designed to be faster than the regular MCPS math.

+1

Same here. A kid with slow processing speed and in IEP. Kid was scoring 99% in MAP for the last 4-5 years and finishing geometry in his 8th grade now. Compact math is not some very high difficulty level math. 4/5/6 the grade math is very over lapping so any kid who is good in math can do well in compact math.

[Anonymous]

Depends if your kid can comfortably handle the pace or not. Don't worry about implication later...do what's right for your kid.

If you think compacted math is "speeding" thru math, then it's clearly not right for your kid. For other kids, it's not "speedy" and they get their solid foundation, and the non-compacted would be a boring and may even lose their attention.

You and the teacher know your kid.

[Anonymous]

Can anyone share the a range of MAP-M scores or achievement percentiles that are being placed in Compacted 4/5?

My child consistently has high achievement and high growth on MAP but was not placed in 4/5 by central office. I'm wondering if I should ask our school for the 4/5 placement anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone share the a range of MAP-M scores or achievement percentiles that are being placed in Compacted 4/5?

My child consistently has high achievement and high growth on MAP but was not placed in 4/5 by central office. I'm wondering if I should ask our school for the 4/5 placement anyway.

I think you'd have to ask central office and/or your school on that one--no parent will know that, and I understand it differs by elementary school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone share the a range of MAP-M scores or achievement percentiles that are being placed in Compacted 4/5?

My child consistently has high achievement and high growth on MAP but was not placed in 4/5 by central office. I'm wondering if I should ask our school for the 4/5 placement anyway.

I think you'd have to ask central office and/or your school on that one--no parent will know that, and I understand it differs by elementary school.

+1 Also, I think it's not just MAP-M, it's also MCAP and grades in school related to math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My older kid was not in compacted math, but he was placed in AIM in 6th grade based on MAP by central office. He did very well and finishing Geometry in 8th grade now. I did have to work with him a lot in 6th grade due to gaps.

Based on his experience, I will suggest anyone to take comapt math if school is pacing you in it. You can always slow down but if kid is placed in AIM/equivalent in 6th grade based on score, not taking compact puts you in disadvantage.

Take compact math. It's not that high paced. They just cover a bit extra.

------------------------------------------

I need advice from others on this:

My younger son is in compated math in 4th grade now. His teacher made him take middle school MAP and his score was very high. Elemetary school is suggesting to send him in Middle school AIM equivalent class when he goes to 5th grade for first period. I am conflicted by this because we will run into same problem in not having math courses in 8th grade and I would have to drive him to high school and then againt in 12th grade in HS drive him to some community college.

I am piggy banking on this thread. Any feedback from families who have done this? I am a math ensusiast. I work with my kid 2-3 hours in month but I don't teach him anything which is not getting taught in class so I was surprised. Negative of holding him back will be him getting bored, but I am not sure kids are ready for some concept in HS when they are so young.

Any advice will be highly appreciated.

I would not do this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My older kid was not in compacted math, but he was placed in AIM in 6th grade based on MAP by central office. He did very well and finishing Geometry in 8th grade now. I did have to work with him a lot in 6th grade due to gaps.

Based on his experience, I will suggest anyone to take comapt math if school is pacing you in it. You can always slow down but if kid is placed in AIM/equivalent in 6th grade based on score, not taking compact puts you in disadvantage.

Take compact math. It's not that high paced. They just cover a bit extra.

------------------------------------------

I need advice from others on this:

My younger son is in compated math in 4th grade now. His teacher made him take middle school MAP and his score was very high. Elemetary school is suggesting to send him in Middle school AIM equivalent class when he goes to 5th grade for first period. I am conflicted by this because we will run into same problem in not having math courses in 8th grade and I would have to drive him to high school and then againt in 12th grade in HS drive him to some community college.

I am piggy banking on this thread. Any feedback from families who have done this? I am a math ensusiast. I work with my kid 2-3 hours in month but I don't teach him anything which is not getting taught in class so I was surprised. Negative of holding him back will be him getting bored, but I am not sure kids are ready for some concept in HS when they are so young.

Any advice will be highly appreciated.

I would not do this

Interested to hear your reasons as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone share the a range of MAP-M scores or achievement percentiles that are being placed in Compacted 4/5?

My child consistently has high achievement and high growth on MAP but was not placed in 4/5 by central office. I'm wondering if I should ask our school for the 4/5 placement anyway.

In our school, it was 85 percentile or above. but it may change year to year.