Studies over a few years were already done at other top schools and the TO kids were doing much worse than the rest-the ones most likely to need remedial help—hence bringing tests back. |
| Vanderbilt has 67% yield, and 39% of admitted students are TO. |
Don't disagree with you. I guess Duke wants its own data. Hopefully they will get the same answers and scrap TO. Trust your admissions people to be able to pick out the kids with lower scores who are capable of more. This might bring down average test scores a little bit but it is worth it. Especially at the very top schools who don't need to worry about the US News rat race. |
💯 They know who will come. It’s not a NMF/36…. |
| This whole thread reeks of cope. Vanderbilt is a top ten school in this country, and it looks like many on this thread will be living in the past. |
Can you give examples, please? DC is interested in both Duke and Vandy and sees them as quite similar, but hasn’t yet visited Vandy. (Duke did not seem conservative, BTW. But maybe we missed it?) |
Plus SEC sports. Vandy is usually outmatched, but it’s fun, and they had some great upsets in both football and basketball this year. |
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Vanderbilt has ED 1 and ED2. Not as bad as chicago with EA and ED0,1,2 but not at all comparable to any other T20 with a single ED round or no ED at all.
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Vandy is NOT top 10 come off it. It will never be ivy or Duke or even Northwestern level. It is barely T15. |
He is in GL, and many of the others in his and other frats and sororities he said claim to be liberal, showing support for causes, but beyond that surface level support harbor conservative beliefs and mindset. |
Stanford wasn't test optional this year. Neither was Penn. |
Yep. And the bolded require test scores- unlike Vanderbilt where over 50% are admitted without them. Those aren’t serious people. |
This. At this point it is a clear marketing strategy. These schools will still attract the prime candidates that they want, but they LOVE being able to compete for the bragging rights of the lowest possible acceptance rate, and the only way they can keep competing for that bragging right is to keep the insane number of applications coming in. So as their peer schools, like the Ivies, start to drop TO and go back to requiring test scores, the kids who want to keep trying for those top schools will all rush send their applications to whatever top schools still offer TO to test their chances. I am thrilled that my 11th graders #1 choice dropped TO as I am hoping that it will help calm this craze. |
It’s quite literally not. They love the applications as everyone has said so they can look extra exclusive. They get the added ding that they actually admit a lot of TO. All of that is fine, it’s a great school, but acting like it’s an Ivy with their qualifications is false. It offers strong academics, warm weather, sports, fun location. It makes a lot of sense for a lot of kids. |
Penn was TO this yr. Tests are required starting next yr. |