iReady score went down from fall to winter--what's going on?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:can someone explain the test for me? what is the highest score you can get? only were they tested with same level questions or the questions vary depending on the questions the student got right during the exam?

Use the internet to do some research on it. I recall on this forum someone said it's always the same qs, but I'm not sure if that's true.

The range of scores is not by grade level, but the percentiles are scaled to grade. So you can see from looking at the charts where your child's score would put them for higher and lower grades, which is somewhat informative.

I don't think the test is "trash". It's a data point, and better than the other totally subjective assessments that go into the AAP packet.

Thanks, I looked up and according to the chart, my grade 1 son should be grade 4 level. That is why I had those questions. It does not make sense to me. I wonder what kind of questions they were tested on. For example, how many grade 4 level questions he got on the test.

[Anonymous]

Maybe the stories are repeated in the later grades but I don't think in the younger grades. My history buff son told me last spring in 2nd grade that he got a passage about Paul Revere. He hasn't seen it again this year.

[Anonymous]

The test is awful for some kids. It’s very sensitive with kids who have concentration challenges. Compounding that, the same reading passages are given which bores these children. For some, the scores go up and down and is not a reflection of learning at all. There’s no way that learning was removed from your kid’s brain after an additional semester of learning. It just proves that the test is lousy and a waste of time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:can someone explain the test for me? what is the highest score you can get? only were they tested with same level questions or the questions vary depending on the questions the student got right during the exam?

Use the internet to do some research on it. I recall on this forum someone said it's always the same qs, but I'm not sure if that's true.

The range of scores is not by grade level, but the percentiles are scaled to grade. So you can see from looking at the charts where your child's score would put them for higher and lower grades, which is somewhat informative.

I don't think the test is "trash". It's a data point, and better than the other totally subjective assessments that go into the AAP packet.

Thanks, I looked up and according to the chart, my grade 1 son should be grade 4 level. That is why I had those questions. It does not make sense to me. I wonder what kind of questions they were tested on. For example, how many grade 4 level questions he got on the test.

It would help to know the score and whether it was reading or math.

They don't really have "grade 1" questions and "grade 4" ones. Each grade level has a question bank that includes a pretty broad range of questions (both above and below grade level). Then, if the kid exhausts the questions, they can pull from the next question bank.

FWIW, my kid in 2nd grade took the 2nd grade math iready. Then in 3rd, he took the 5th grade iready. And in 4th, he took the 7th grade one. (his situation is complicated). The scores (all far into the 99th percentile) showed a consistent growth and didn't have any weird effects from changing iready grade levels.

I would imagine that had your child taken the 4th grade iready and not the 1st grade one, the scaled score would have been around the same thing. The test is designed and scaled to do exactly that. You do have to be careful with interpretation, though, since every grade level has a broad range for "on grade level."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:can someone explain the test for me? what is the highest score you can get? only were they tested with same level questions or the questions vary depending on the questions the student got right during the exam?

Use the internet to do some research on it. I recall on this forum someone said it's always the same qs, but I'm not sure if that's true.

The range of scores is not by grade level, but the percentiles are scaled to grade. So you can see from looking at the charts where your child's score would put them for higher and lower grades, which is somewhat informative.

I don't think the test is "trash". It's a data point, and better than the other totally subjective assessments that go into the AAP packet.

Thanks, I looked up and according to the chart, my grade 1 son should be grade 4 level. That is why I had those questions. It does not make sense to me. I wonder what kind of questions they were tested on. For example, how many grade 4 level questions he got on the test.

PP who replied to you, here again.
This chart shows what I meant about the on grade level being broadened:
https://www.rcboe.org/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=178761&dataid=199768&FileName=iready-diagnostic-placement-tables.pdf
So, for example, if your grade 1 kid had a 480 math score, that does show up in the on grade level 4th grade range, but it's really only in the grade 2 band. So it would be appropriate to say that the kid was grade 2 level but not grade 4 level. Grade 4 math starts at a score of 517.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the stories are repeated in the later grades but I don't think in the younger grades. My history buff son told me last spring in 2nd grade that he got a passage about Paul Revere. He hasn't seen it again this year.

My kids in 4th and 6th said they had practically memorized the passages - and started reciting them to prove it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:can someone explain the test for me? what is the highest score you can get? only were they tested with same level questions or the questions vary depending on the questions the student got right during the exam?

Use the internet to do some research on it. I recall on this forum someone said it's always the same qs, but I'm not sure if that's true.

The range of scores is not by grade level, but the percentiles are scaled to grade. So you can see from looking at the charts where your child's score would put them for higher and lower grades, which is somewhat informative.

I don't think the test is "trash". It's a data point, and better than the other totally subjective assessments that go into the AAP packet.

Thanks, I looked up and according to the chart, my grade 1 son should be grade 4 level. That is why I had those questions. It does not make sense to me. I wonder what kind of questions they were tested on. For example, how many grade 4 level questions he got on the test.

PP who replied to you, here again.
This chart shows what I meant about the on grade level being broadened:
https://www.rcboe.org/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=178761&dataid=199768&FileName=iready-diagnostic-placement-tables.pdf
So, for example, if your grade 1 kid had a 480 math score, that does show up in the on grade level 4th grade range, but it's really only in the grade 2 band. So it would be appropriate to say that the kid was grade 2 level but not grade 4 level. Grade 4 math starts at a score of 517.

Those are old bands, these are this years.

https://cdn.bfldr.com/LS6J0F7/at/jx38srs8nbmnmvqxgwjxrj5/iready-diagnostic-norms-tables-K-8.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:can someone explain the test for me? what is the highest score you can get? only were they tested with same level questions or the questions vary depending on the questions the student got right during the exam?

Use the internet to do some research on it. I recall on this forum someone said it's always the same qs, but I'm not sure if that's true.

The range of scores is not by grade level, but the percentiles are scaled to grade. So you can see from looking at the charts where your child's score would put them for higher and lower grades, which is somewhat informative.

I don't think the test is "trash". It's a data point, and better than the other totally subjective assessments that go into the AAP packet.

Thanks, I looked up and according to the chart, my grade 1 son should be grade 4 level. That is why I had those questions. It does not make sense to me. I wonder what kind of questions they were tested on. For example, how many grade 4 level questions he got on the test.

It would help to know the score and whether it was reading or math.

They don't really have "grade 1" questions and "grade 4" ones. Each grade level has a question bank that includes a pretty broad range of questions (both above and below grade level). Then, if the kid exhausts the questions, they can pull from the next question bank.

FWIW, my kid in 2nd grade took the 2nd grade math iready. Then in 3rd, he took the 5th grade iready. And in 4th, he took the 7th grade one. (his situation is complicated). The scores (all far into the 99th percentile) showed a consistent growth and didn't have any weird effects from changing iready grade levels.

I would imagine that had your child taken the 4th grade iready and not the 1st grade one, the scaled score would have been around the same thing. The test is designed and scaled to do exactly that. You do have to be careful with interpretation, though, since every grade level has a broad range for "on grade level."

Thank you. my kid is in grade 1, and scored 545 in the winter iReady math test. But I dont know what grade iready test he took (he took one last September too and scored only 506). I am just trying to figure out what I can do to help his math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:can someone explain the test for me? what is the highest score you can get? only were they tested with same level questions or the questions vary depending on the questions the student got right during the exam?

Use the internet to do some research on it. I recall on this forum someone said it's always the same qs, but I'm not sure if that's true.

The range of scores is not by grade level, but the percentiles are scaled to grade. So you can see from looking at the charts where your child's score would put them for higher and lower grades, which is somewhat informative.

I don't think the test is "trash". It's a data point, and better than the other totally subjective assessments that go into the AAP packet.

Thanks, I looked up and according to the chart, my grade 1 son should be grade 4 level. That is why I had those questions. It does not make sense to me. I wonder what kind of questions they were tested on. For example, how many grade 4 level questions he got on the test.

It would help to know the score and whether it was reading or math.

They don't really have "grade 1" questions and "grade 4" ones. Each grade level has a question bank that includes a pretty broad range of questions (both above and below grade level). Then, if the kid exhausts the questions, they can pull from the next question bank.

FWIW, my kid in 2nd grade took the 2nd grade math iready. Then in 3rd, he took the 5th grade iready. And in 4th, he took the 7th grade one. (his situation is complicated). The scores (all far into the 99th percentile) showed a consistent growth and didn't have any weird effects from changing iready grade levels.

I would imagine that had your child taken the 4th grade iready and not the 1st grade one, the scaled score would have been around the same thing. The test is designed and scaled to do exactly that. You do have to be careful with interpretation, though, since every grade level has a broad range for "on grade level."

Thank you. my kid is in grade 1, and scored 545 in the winter iReady math test. But I dont know what grade iready test he took (he took one last September too and scored only 506). I am just trying to figure out what I can do to help his math.

He's not going to get anything out of school math. I would contact the principal and see if he can be placed in a higher grade level classroom for math for next year. I'd also put him in AoPS or RSM classes. I don't know much about RSM, but there are other people here who could help. For AoPS, you could subscribe to Beast Academy online for the rest of the spring and summer, and then have him do an in-person class starting in the fall. They should be willing to meet with you and place your kid in the appropriate grade level class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:can someone explain the test for me? what is the highest score you can get? only were they tested with same level questions or the questions vary depending on the questions the student got right during the exam?

Use the internet to do some research on it. I recall on this forum someone said it's always the same qs, but I'm not sure if that's true.

The range of scores is not by grade level, but the percentiles are scaled to grade. So you can see from looking at the charts where your child's score would put them for higher and lower grades, which is somewhat informative.

I don't think the test is "trash". It's a data point, and better than the other totally subjective assessments that go into the AAP packet.

Thanks, I looked up and according to the chart, my grade 1 son should be grade 4 level. That is why I had those questions. It does not make sense to me. I wonder what kind of questions they were tested on. For example, how many grade 4 level questions he got on the test.

It would help to know the score and whether it was reading or math.

They don't really have "grade 1" questions and "grade 4" ones. Each grade level has a question bank that includes a pretty broad range of questions (both above and below grade level). Then, if the kid exhausts the questions, they can pull from the next question bank.

FWIW, my kid in 2nd grade took the 2nd grade math iready. Then in 3rd, he took the 5th grade iready. And in 4th, he took the 7th grade one. (his situation is complicated). The scores (all far into the 99th percentile) showed a consistent growth and didn't have any weird effects from changing iready grade levels.

I would imagine that had your child taken the 4th grade iready and not the 1st grade one, the scaled score would have been around the same thing. The test is designed and scaled to do exactly that. You do have to be careful with interpretation, though, since every grade level has a broad range for "on grade level."

Thank you. my kid is in grade 1, and scored 545 in the winter iReady math test. But I dont know what grade iready test he took (he took one last September too and scored only 506). I am just trying to figure out what I can do to help his math.

He's not going to get anything out of school math. I would contact the principal and see if he can be placed in a higher grade level classroom for math for next year. I'd also put him in AoPS or RSM classes. I don't know much about RSM, but there are other people here who could help. For AoPS, you could subscribe to Beast Academy online for the rest of the spring and summer, and then have him do an in-person class starting in the fall. They should be willing to meet with you and place your kid in the appropriate grade level class.

thank you! this is very helpful!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the stories are repeated in the later grades but I don't think in the younger grades. My history buff son told me last spring in 2nd grade that he got a passage about Paul Revere. He hasn't seen it again this year.

My kids in 4th and 6th said they had practically memorized the passages - and started reciting them to prove it.

Ha ha, love it. I would imagine for sure there is a boredom, I-can't-take-this-seriously-anymore effect.