Legacy is a hook. Pointing this out is reasonable, regardless of where the person pointing it out went to school. Where is the hypocrisy? |
Yep! I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you. 😂 |
I really hope that you aren’t affiliated with Sidwell. You are just embarrassing us. |
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Unless your children are first generation, they are legacies somewhere. It’s hypocritical for you to complain about certain legacy admissions, but not acknowledge your own. |
Great. Post your kids’ schools, your alma maters, if you were legacies, and if your kids are applying to your alma maters. We’ll wait. |
Consider yourself embarrassed! |
My children are in middle and high school at a Big 3. However, they will apply to our universities because we’re happy with the experiences we had and the education we received. Your sour grapes posts about legacy admits tell me that you can’t say the same thing. That’s your fault. You should have attended better schools. |
I'm not PP you are referring to. Not all schools give a leg up to legacies. My institution is one of these and I fully support that policy and continue to give $ to them. So no hypocrisy here when I say - yes - legacy matters at schools that have it. And that's all of the Ivy schools everyone seems to be using as a measuring stick on college admissions from DMV schools. And bystanders who haven't been through this process yet need to understand that legacy and hooks is what drives the admissions results from these DMV schools. Some unhooked kids get through to these highly desired colleges - but the truth is - most do not - even those who are high rigor and high stats. They will all be fine and successful - and usually are happy wherever they land - but do not use these results pages as a guide to how you choose a HS. Find a school where your child will thrive (which can still include these schools) - not one that you think increases their chances of Ivy/T20 admission. These legacy/hook kids will get into those Ivy/T20 regardless of which school they chose. |
Legacy is an admissions hook and saying so is not hypocritical or complaining. It’s just a fact. |
Mine didn't apply to the colleges either I or my spouse attended. They had zero interest after visits. We never said anything, but I think it was a good decision. I don't think they would have liked those schools as much as the ones they chose to apply to. |
Ummm WOW, entitled much? Yuck. |
I don’t have a problem discussing the status of ALL legacy admits. However, I take issue with the selective criticism displayed by many DCUM posters whose children did not win the Ivy+ legacy lottery. It is extremely hypocritical for you to criticize an Ivy+ legacy admit, but remain silent when your child is admitted to your (less prestigious) alma mater. Because let’s be honest, you wouldn’t bother with these sour grapes posts if your children benefited from legacy status at a top tier university. |
Again, it’s not complaining to point this out. It’s reality and better for parents and students to know this when looking at the admissions data from any school, esp one where there are a lot of legacies from top-ranked schools. You seem esp attached to the idea that posters who point this out must have gone to what you would think are inferior schools. Or that only people who went to top-ranked schools are allowed to point this out but those who whose kids “did not win the Ivy+ legacy lottery” are not allowed to. Why is that? |
Except at a large and growing number it is either not a hook or a potential anti-hook. Separately, let's try to remember that we are talking about a bunch of kids and we have no idea (other than committed athletes, and even then at most schools they won't commit a kid who isn't qualified) what aspects of their application were material to the admissions decision. Crying about hooks diminishes these kids' accomplishment. My college kid didn't apply to any of the schools that we attended, for a variety of reasons. My high school kid will go wherever they commit. I'm plenty proud of both of them, even if their institutions are not DCUM-approved. |
Ivy Leagues have:
20% to 30% legacy students. 10% to 20% athletes. 25% to 30% are from elite high schools. 60% to 70% are from public high schools. 20% are from elite public high school. 10% to 20% are from religious high schools. 10% to 20% are international students. 20% are first-generation college students. 8% to 10% are from rural areas. |