Are Michigan, Wisconsin, and PA the “blue wall” anymore?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So interestingly, Trump got less votes this year than he did in 2020. This isn't the mandate people think it is, though he did win the popular vote. However, Harris obviously failed to turn out voters in the urban areas people expected. She got less votes than Biden did. So the party really needs to examine why.

If this isn’t a mandate, what in your opinion is a mandate?

The best part of a mandate is that it comes with high expectations. They have to deliver or will get punished next time. Talk is over.

Yes indeed. Come February I’m expecting:

Lower grocery prices.
World class cheap health care.
Little to no income taxes.
No capital gains taxes (realized or unrealized).
Cheap gas.
Low electricity and heating bills.
Excellent, affordable childcare.
Plenty of affordable housing in desirable areas.
Robust U.S. based manufacturing that provides jobs that pay well enough for families to choose to live on one income.

Clock is ticking. I’m sure Trump is hard at work with his transition team so he can hit the ground running on day 1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those 3 states have earned the moniker “blue wall,” and it’s repeated constantly throughout election season.

Do they deserve that name and reputation anymore?

Apparently not, right?

This is what you get for believing polls and media propaganda.

[Anonymous]

They call it “The Blue Wall” because it’s a Democratic candidate’s most reliable path to the Presidency. If you lose one of the Blue Wall, you very likely lose the Presidency.

These states have always been bellwethers and flip consistently between parties, split ticket voting, etc. They haven’t reliably voted for one party in decades.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s be real for a second. The midwest didn't vote for a woman twice against Trump. A lot of the people there are also extremely racist. They want to deport undocumented migrants and Harris isn't white enough for them.

I've certainly talked to people in those places and the N word is still in wide circulation for many people there.

Where these the same people in counties in Michigan who voted for Obama by 30
points more than Romney and then only voted for Harris by 4?

Dems will never get it. Gird yourself for a JD Vance presidency in 2028.

You can't compare this to the Obama years. The fact that you would even say that shows how incredibly stupid or at the very least disingenuous you are.

I can’t not deride the same population in county as racist because they voted for a Black man with the name Barack Hussein Obama by 30 points over a square white rich dude? Are you joking?!!!! I’m referring to the voting totals in Flint, Michigan. These aren’t white racists. They’re working class Black folks white folks and they didn’t like what Dick Cheney’s best friend was selling.

So you're just a dumb person. I'll edumicate your empty head in small sentences and easy words.

Republicans in office. 8 year of wars. Depression. Housing crises. Bankruptcies. Economy do bad. AIG bail out. Rich Republican banker cry.

Democrats win elections. Black man running for President then. Any D candidate would win then.

[Anonymous]

Michigan kept its blue senator and added to the Dems on the state supreme court.

We also still have a blue governor, AG and SoS.

Trump will screw everything up so don't count on Michigan going R in the future.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s be real for a second. The midwest didn't vote for a woman twice against Trump. A lot of the people there are also extremely racist. They want to deport undocumented migrants and Harris isn't white enough for them.

I've certainly talked to people in those places and the N word is still in wide circulation for many people there.

Where these the same people in counties in Michigan who voted for Obama by 30
points more than Romney and then only voted for Harris by 4?

Dems will never get it. Gird yourself for a JD Vance presidency in 2028.

You can't compare this to the Obama years. The fact that you would even say that shows how incredibly stupid or at the very least disingenuous you are.

I can’t not deride the same population in county as racist because they voted for a Black man with the name Barack Hussein Obama by 30 points over a square white rich dude? Are you joking?!!!! I’m referring to the voting totals in Flint, Michigan. These aren’t white racists. They’re working class Black folks white folks and they didn’t like what Dick Cheney’s best friend was selling.

So you're just a dumb person. I'll edumicate your empty head in small sentences and easy words.

Republicans in office. 8 year of wars. Depression. Housing crises. Bankruptcies. Economy do bad. AIG bail out. Rich Republican banker cry.

Democrats win elections. Black man running for President then. Any D candidate would win then.

This was in 2012, when Obama was running for his second term, moron. And by your logic these same people were just voting against Ds in 2024 because 75% of people think the country’s on the wrong track and they’re voting against anyone with a D by their name, which makes my point.

You really are special…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So interestingly, Trump got less votes this year than he did in 2020. This isn't the mandate people think it is, though he did win the popular vote. However, Harris obviously failed to turn out voters in the urban areas people expected. She got less votes than Biden did. So the party really needs to examine why.

If this isn’t a mandate, what in your opinion is a mandate?

The best part of a mandate is that it comes with high expectations. They have to deliver or will get punished next time. Talk is over.

Yes indeed. Come February I’m expecting:

Lower grocery prices.
World class cheap health care.
Little to no income taxes.
No capital gains taxes (realized or unrealized).
Cheap gas.
Low electricity and heating bills.
Excellent, affordable childcare.
Plenty of affordable housing in desirable areas.
Robust U.S. based manufacturing that provides jobs that pay well enough for families to choose to live on one income.

Clock is ticking. I’m sure Trump is hard at work with his transition team so he can hit the ground running on day 1.

How generous, you are giving Trump an entire month to fix the situation. A whole month!

You really aren’t a serious person.

Trump will hit the ground running and implement his policies and plans. It will take longer than your expectation of one month to implement his policies and plans and for them to have the desired effects. But you can still flog your ridiculous rhetoric and complain, while giving the Biden/Harris administration a free pass for 4 years of utter failure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So interestingly, Trump got less votes this year than he did in 2020. This isn't the mandate people think it is, though he did win the popular vote. However, Harris obviously failed to turn out voters in the urban areas people expected. She got less votes than Biden did. So the party really needs to examine why.

Republicans won:

– Presidency
– Popular vote
– Senate majority
– House majority
– State governor majority
– State legislature majority

That’s not a mandate?

Yes but it's not that more people went out and voted for Trump than before. He actually got less votes. What we need to understand is why people didn't come out for Harris.

For the same reason she was the first one out in 2020. She's an idiot. Next time run a proper primary and don't install a sock puppet against a person that already has a track record. Then try your hardest to not spit on the other side and tell them it's raining. Also, lose the fascist Hitler crap, it's not working and makes you look boorish.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That wall has obviously crumbled.

I used to think Republicans are going to have a really hard time winning national elections because of changing demographics. But if Democrats aren't winning MI, WI, PA, AZ, NV, GA, NC, much less OH and FL, I have a a hard time imagining how Democrats are viable going forward.

I honestly thought the same. I think democrats thought the same, too.

But it’s definitely not that way.

Democrats made the foolish assumption that brown people will vote for them. No.

Many immigrants are conservative!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So interestingly, Trump got less votes this year than he did in 2020. This isn't the mandate people think it is, though he did win the popular vote. However, Harris obviously failed to turn out voters in the urban areas people expected. She got less votes than Biden did. So the party really needs to examine why.

So you are with Trump to question the 2020 elections. I am also curious where about 10 million democrat voters have gone to.

I now think that Trump may have been the popular vote winner twice in a row.

[Anonymous]

2028 will be the last Election cycle where the “Blue Wall” matters. After 2030 reapportionment is complete, then Republicans will be able to win EV without a single blue wall state.

*absent major changes to migration patterns. Texas, Florida, and perhaps Tennessee and NC are going to gain EVs and Congressional Reps. California, New York and other Blue States will lose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So interestingly, Trump got less votes this year than he did in 2020. This isn't the mandate people think it is, though he did win the popular vote. However, Harris obviously failed to turn out voters in the urban areas people expected. She got less votes than Biden did. So the party really needs to examine why.

So you are with Trump to question the 2020 elections. I am also curious where about 10 million democrat voters have gone to.

I now think that Trump may have been the popular vote winner twice in a row.

Lol no

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2028 will be the last Election cycle where the “Blue Wall” matters. After 2030 reapportionment is complete, then Republicans will be able to win EV without a single blue wall state.

*absent major changes to migration patterns. Texas, Florida, and perhaps Tennessee and NC are going to gain EVs and Congressional Reps. California, New York and other Blue States will lose.

This. Florida and Texas are getting A LOT more EVs.