Any feedback on Loiderman, Argyle or Parkland Magnet Programs?

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Anonymous wrote:We applied to all 3 MSMC choice programs as we really liked the idea of the focus areas + the all school magnet for middle school.

Any feedback on strengths and challenges in these programs (strength of magnet classes, learning environment, leadership at the school)?
Thanks in advance!

My son did Argyle ( unfortunately started in 2020 so Covid made experience hard ) The school allows for lots of Engineering classes and other technical classes not available at other middle schools. Going to school with kids of a variety of races and socio economic backgrounds I think is a plus. But really the best part of going to the lottery schools is it opens you up to much more choices for High School. You don't just get the choices in your area but you get all the schools in Down Consortium giving you higher chance of attending a "real" magnet program. My son is now at Wheaton Engineering Magnet which is yes one you have to apply to and be accepted as in "real magnet".

Or, you could just live in the area you want your child to go to school. Its funny you choose not to live in an area like this but then want to use the schools.

Maybe they couldn’t afford it or there weren’t any available homes in that area at the time of purchase.

You do realize these are lower cost areas so your post makes absolutely no sense.

You do realize there are low income families, right? Get out of your bubble!

You have no idea what you are talking about. This middle school consortium is in the lower cost housing parts of the county with high farms rates. The discussion is wealthy people lotterying their kids in who don't live in the area.

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Anonymous wrote:We applied to all 3 MSMC choice programs as we really liked the idea of the focus areas + the all school magnet for middle school.

Any feedback on strengths and challenges in these programs (strength of magnet classes, learning environment, leadership at the school)?
Thanks in advance!

My son did Argyle ( unfortunately started in 2020 so Covid made experience hard ) The school allows for lots of Engineering classes and other technical classes not available at other middle schools. Going to school with kids of a variety of races and socio economic backgrounds I think is a plus. But really the best part of going to the lottery schools is it opens you up to much more choices for High School. You don't just get the choices in your area but you get all the schools in Down Consortium giving you higher chance of attending a "real" magnet program. My son is now at Wheaton Engineering Magnet which is yes one you have to apply to and be accepted as in "real magnet".

Or, you could just live in the area you want your child to go to school. Its funny you choose not to live in an area like this but then want to use the schools.

Maybe they couldn’t afford it or there weren’t any available homes in that area at the time of purchase.

You do realize these are lower cost areas so your post makes absolutely no sense.

You do realize there are low income families, right? Get out of your bubble!

You have no idea what you are talking about. This middle school consortium is in the lower cost housing parts of the county with high farms rates. The discussion is wealthy people lotterying their kids in who don't live in the area.

+100. Yep. It’s surprising to those who don’t know about the area. It’s fairly impoverished. It also has a bare bones PTA too……………..

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The elitism on this forum never fails to amaze me.

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Anonymous wrote:We applied to all 3 MSMC choice programs as we really liked the idea of the focus areas + the all school magnet for middle school.

Any feedback on strengths and challenges in these programs (strength of magnet classes, learning environment, leadership at the school)?
Thanks in advance!

My son did Argyle ( unfortunately started in 2020 so Covid made experience hard ) The school allows for lots of Engineering classes and other technical classes not available at other middle schools. Going to school with kids of a variety of races and socio economic backgrounds I think is a plus. But really the best part of going to the lottery schools is it opens you up to much more choices for High School. You don't just get the choices in your area but you get all the schools in Down Consortium giving you higher chance of attending a "real" magnet program. My son is now at Wheaton Engineering Magnet which is yes one you have to apply to and be accepted as in "real magnet".

Or, you could just live in the area you want your child to go to school. Its funny you choose not to live in an area like this but then want to use the schools.

Maybe they couldn’t afford it or there weren’t any available homes in that area at the time of purchase.

You do realize these are lower cost areas so your post makes absolutely no sense.

You do realize there are low income families, right? Get out of your bubble!

You have no idea what you are talking about. This middle school consortium is in the lower cost housing parts of the county with high farms rates. The discussion is wealthy people lotterying their kids in who don't live in the area.

Why assume everyone who’s trying to get their kids in these schools are living in wealthy areas? Not everyone lives in Bethesda or Potomac.

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Anonymous wrote:We applied to all 3 MSMC choice programs as we really liked the idea of the focus areas + the all school magnet for middle school.

Any feedback on strengths and challenges in these programs (strength of magnet classes, learning environment, leadership at the school)?
Thanks in advance!

My son did Argyle ( unfortunately started in 2020 so Covid made experience hard ) The school allows for lots of Engineering classes and other technical classes not available at other middle schools. Going to school with kids of a variety of races and socio economic backgrounds I think is a plus. But really the best part of going to the lottery schools is it opens you up to much more choices for High School. You don't just get the choices in your area but you get all the schools in Down Consortium giving you higher chance of attending a "real" magnet program. My son is now at Wheaton Engineering Magnet which is yes one you have to apply to and be accepted as in "real magnet".

A plus for whom? Tons of research showing the benefits of said diversity for wealthy white kids but not so much for kids of color[/quote

Most of the kids in the program not white and not rich but you keep making assumptions and your tons of not actually linked research

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Anonymous wrote:We applied to all 3 MSMC choice programs as we really liked the idea of the focus areas + the all school magnet for middle school.

Any feedback on strengths and challenges in these programs (strength of magnet classes, learning environment, leadership at the school)?
Thanks in advance!

My son did Argyle ( unfortunately started in 2020 so Covid made experience hard ) The school allows for lots of Engineering classes and other technical classes not available at other middle schools. Going to school with kids of a variety of races and socio economic backgrounds I think is a plus. But really the best part of going to the lottery schools is it opens you up to much more choices for High School. You don't just get the choices in your area but you get all the schools in Down Consortium giving you higher chance of attending a "real" magnet program. My son is now at Wheaton Engineering Magnet which is yes one you have to apply to and be accepted as in "real magnet".

Or, you could just live in the area you want your child to go to school. Its funny you choose not to live in an area like this but then want to use the schools.

Maybe they couldn’t afford it or there weren’t any available homes in that area at the time of purchase.

You do realize these are lower cost areas so your post makes absolutely no sense.

You do realize there are low income families, right? Get out of your bubble!

You have no idea what you are talking about. This middle school consortium is in the lower cost housing parts of the county with high farms rates. The discussion is wealthy people lotterying their kids in who don't live in the area.

Why assume everyone who’s trying to get their kids in these schools are living in wealthy areas? Not everyone lives in Bethesda or Potomac.

There are expensive homes in the areas surrounding it too.

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Anonymous wrote:We applied to all 3 MSMC choice programs as we really liked the idea of the focus areas + the all school magnet for middle school.

Any feedback on strengths and challenges in these programs (strength of magnet classes, learning environment, leadership at the school)?
Thanks in advance!

My son did Argyle ( unfortunately started in 2020 so Covid made experience hard ) The school allows for lots of Engineering classes and other technical classes not available at other middle schools. Going to school with kids of a variety of races and socio economic backgrounds I think is a plus. But really the best part of going to the lottery schools is it opens you up to much more choices for High School. You don't just get the choices in your area but you get all the schools in Down Consortium giving you higher chance of attending a "real" magnet program. My son is now at Wheaton Engineering Magnet which is yes one you have to apply to and be accepted as in "real magnet".

Or, you could just live in the area you want your child to go to school. Its funny you choose not to live in an area like this but then want to use the schools.

Maybe they couldn’t afford it or there weren’t any available homes in that area at the time of purchase.

You do realize these are lower cost areas so your post makes absolutely no sense.

You do realize there are low income families, right? Get out of your bubble!

You have no idea what you are talking about. This middle school consortium is in the lower cost housing parts of the county with high farms rates. The discussion is wealthy people lotterying their kids in who don't live in the area.

Why assume everyone who’s trying to get their kids in these schools are living in wealthy areas? Not everyone lives in Bethesda or Potomac.

There are expensive homes in the areas surrounding it too.

They also exists in these areas too. Again, please get out of your bubble.

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Anonymous wrote:We applied to all 3 MSMC choice programs as we really liked the idea of the focus areas + the all school magnet for middle school.

Any feedback on strengths and challenges in these programs (strength of magnet classes, learning environment, leadership at the school)?
Thanks in advance!

My son did Argyle ( unfortunately started in 2020 so Covid made experience hard ) The school allows for lots of Engineering classes and other technical classes not available at other middle schools. Going to school with kids of a variety of races and socio economic backgrounds I think is a plus. But really the best part of going to the lottery schools is it opens you up to much more choices for High School. You don't just get the choices in your area but you get all the schools in Down Consortium giving you higher chance of attending a "real" magnet program. My son is now at Wheaton Engineering Magnet which is yes one you have to apply to and be accepted as in "real magnet".

Or, you could just live in the area you want your child to go to school. Its funny you choose not to live in an area like this but then want to use the schools.

Maybe they couldn’t afford it or there weren’t any available homes in that area at the time of purchase.

You do realize these are lower cost areas so your post makes absolutely no sense.

You do realize there are low income families, right? Get out of your bubble!

You have no idea what you are talking about. This middle school consortium is in the lower cost housing parts of the county with high farms rates. The discussion is wealthy people lotterying their kids in who don't live in the area.

Why assume everyone who’s trying to get their kids in these schools are living in wealthy areas? Not everyone lives in Bethesda or Potomac.

There are expensive homes in the areas surrounding it too.

https://www.redfin.com/school/35275/MD/Rockville/Parkland-Middle-School/filter/sort=hi-price

https://www.redfin.com/school/135411/MD/Silver-Spring/A-Mario-Loiederman-Middle-School/filter/sort=hi-price


https://www.redfin.com/school/119732/MD/Aspen-Hill/Argyle-Middle-School/filter/sort=hi-price

Just remember that not everyone can afford a $400k-$500k house.

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Anonymous wrote:We applied to all 3 MSMC choice programs as we really liked the idea of the focus areas + the all school magnet for middle school.

Any feedback on strengths and challenges in these programs (strength of magnet classes, learning environment, leadership at the school)?
Thanks in advance!

My son did Argyle ( unfortunately started in 2020 so Covid made experience hard ) The school allows for lots of Engineering classes and other technical classes not available at other middle schools. Going to school with kids of a variety of races and socio economic backgrounds I think is a plus. But really the best part of going to the lottery schools is it opens you up to much more choices for High School. You don't just get the choices in your area but you get all the schools in Down Consortium giving you higher chance of attending a "real" magnet program. My son is now at Wheaton Engineering Magnet which is yes one you have to apply to and be accepted as in "real magnet".

Or, you could just live in the area you want your child to go to school. Its funny you choose not to live in an area like this but then want to use the schools.

Maybe they couldn’t afford it or there weren’t any available homes in that area at the time of purchase.

You do realize these are lower cost areas so your post makes absolutely no sense.

You do realize there are low income families, right? Get out of your bubble!

You have no idea what you are talking about. This middle school consortium is in the lower cost housing parts of the county with high farms rates. The discussion is wealthy people lotterying their kids in who don't live in the area.

Why assume everyone who’s trying to get their kids in these schools are living in wealthy areas? Not everyone lives in Bethesda or Potomac.

There are expensive homes in the areas surrounding it too.

https://www.redfin.com/school/35275/MD/Rockville/Parkland-Middle-School/filter/sort=hi-price

https://www.redfin.com/school/135411/MD/Silver-Spring/A-Mario-Loiederman-Middle-School/filter/sort=hi-price


https://www.redfin.com/school/119732/MD/Aspen-Hill/Argyle-Middle-School/filter/sort=hi-price

Just remember that not everyone can afford a $400k-$500k house.

It’s one of the cheaper rental areas and not what I was talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:We applied to all 3 MSMC choice programs as we really liked the idea of the focus areas + the all school magnet for middle school.

Any feedback on strengths and challenges in these programs (strength of magnet classes, learning environment, leadership at the school)?
Thanks in advance!

My son did Argyle ( unfortunately started in 2020 so Covid made experience hard ) The school allows for lots of Engineering classes and other technical classes not available at other middle schools. Going to school with kids of a variety of races and socio economic backgrounds I think is a plus. But really the best part of going to the lottery schools is it opens you up to much more choices for High School. You don't just get the choices in your area but you get all the schools in Down Consortium giving you higher chance of attending a "real" magnet program. My son is now at Wheaton Engineering Magnet which is yes one you have to apply to and be accepted as in "real magnet".

Or, you could just live in the area you want your child to go to school. Its funny you choose not to live in an area like this but then want to use the schools.

Maybe they couldn’t afford it or there weren’t any available homes in that area at the time of purchase.

You do realize these are lower cost areas so your post makes absolutely no sense.

You do realize there are low income families, right? Get out of your bubble!

You have no idea what you are talking about. This middle school consortium is in the lower cost housing parts of the county with high farms rates. The discussion is wealthy people lotterying their kids in who don't live in the area.

Why assume everyone who’s trying to get their kids in these schools are living in wealthy areas? Not everyone lives in Bethesda or Potomac.

There are expensive homes in the areas surrounding it too.

https://www.redfin.com/school/35275/MD/Rockville/Parkland-Middle-School/filter/sort=hi-price

https://www.redfin.com/school/135411/MD/Silver-Spring/A-Mario-Loiederman-Middle-School/filter/sort=hi-price


https://www.redfin.com/school/119732/MD/Aspen-Hill/Argyle-Middle-School/filter/sort=hi-price

Just remember that not everyone can afford a $400k-$500k house.

It’s one of the cheaper rental areas and not what I was talking about.

Cheaper rental areas don’t exist in MoCo anymore, but nice try.

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Anonymous wrote:We applied to all 3 MSMC choice programs as we really liked the idea of the focus areas + the all school magnet for middle school.

Any feedback on strengths and challenges in these programs (strength of magnet classes, learning environment, leadership at the school)?
Thanks in advance!

My son did Argyle ( unfortunately started in 2020 so Covid made experience hard ) The school allows for lots of Engineering classes and other technical classes not available at other middle schools. Going to school with kids of a variety of races and socio economic backgrounds I think is a plus. But really the best part of going to the lottery schools is it opens you up to much more choices for High School. You don't just get the choices in your area but you get all the schools in Down Consortium giving you higher chance of attending a "real" magnet program. My son is now at Wheaton Engineering Magnet which is yes one you have to apply to and be accepted as in "real magnet".

Or, you could just live in the area you want your child to go to school. Its funny you choose not to live in an area like this but then want to use the schools.

Maybe they couldn’t afford it or there weren’t any available homes in that area at the time of purchase.

You do realize these are lower cost areas so your post makes absolutely no sense.

You do realize there are low income families, right? Get out of your bubble!

You have no idea what you are talking about. This middle school consortium is in the lower cost housing parts of the county with high farms rates. The discussion is wealthy people lotterying their kids in who don't live in the area.

Why assume everyone who’s trying to get their kids in these schools are living in wealthy areas? Not everyone lives in Bethesda or Potomac.

There are expensive homes in the areas surrounding it too.

https://www.redfin.com/school/35275/MD/Rockville/Parkland-Middle-School/filter/sort=hi-price

https://www.redfin.com/school/135411/MD/Silver-Spring/A-Mario-Loiederman-Middle-School/filter/sort=hi-price


https://www.redfin.com/school/119732/MD/Aspen-Hill/Argyle-Middle-School/filter/sort=hi-price

Just remember that not everyone can afford a $400k-$500k house.

It’s one of the cheaper rental areas and not what I was talking about.

Cheaper rental areas don’t exist in MoCo anymore, but nice try.

Exactly. Thats why people have no money

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Anonymous wrote:We applied to all 3 MSMC choice programs as we really liked the idea of the focus areas + the all school magnet for middle school.

Any feedback on strengths and challenges in these programs (strength of magnet classes, learning environment, leadership at the school)?
Thanks in advance!

My son did Argyle ( unfortunately started in 2020 so Covid made experience hard ) The school allows for lots of Engineering classes and other technical classes not available at other middle schools. Going to school with kids of a variety of races and socio economic backgrounds I think is a plus. But really the best part of going to the lottery schools is it opens you up to much more choices for High School. You don't just get the choices in your area but you get all the schools in Down Consortium giving you higher chance of attending a "real" magnet program. My son is now at Wheaton Engineering Magnet which is yes one you have to apply to and be accepted as in "real magnet".

Or, you could just live in the area you want your child to go to school. Its funny you choose not to live in an area like this but then want to use the schools.

Maybe they couldn’t afford it or there weren’t any available homes in that area at the time of purchase.

You do realize these are lower cost areas so your post makes absolutely no sense.

You do realize there are low income families, right? Get out of your bubble!

You have no idea what you are talking about. This middle school consortium is in the lower cost housing parts of the county with high farms rates. The discussion is wealthy people lotterying their kids in who don't live in the area.

Why assume everyone who’s trying to get their kids in these schools are living in wealthy areas? Not everyone lives in Bethesda or Potomac.

There are expensive homes in the areas surrounding it too.

https://www.redfin.com/school/35275/MD/Rockville/Parkland-Middle-School/filter/sort=hi-price

https://www.redfin.com/school/135411/MD/Silver-Spring/A-Mario-Loiederman-Middle-School/filter/sort=hi-price


https://www.redfin.com/school/119732/MD/Aspen-Hill/Argyle-Middle-School/filter/sort=hi-price

Just remember that not everyone can afford a $400k-$500k house.

It’s one of the cheaper rental areas and not what I was talking about.

Cheaper rental areas don’t exist in MoCo anymore, but nice try.

Yes they do if you know where to look.

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What HS other than Blair has similar magnet type program in Montgomery Co, MD?

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Anonymous wrote:What HS other than Blair has similar magnet type program in Montgomery Co, MD?

Poolesville.

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Anonymous wrote:These are not real magnets. They are lotteries. MCPs is too cheap to staff interesting electives at every MA so they pick and choose what ends up in each of the DCC middle schools under the guise of a “magnet”. A true magnet would involve an application, and in the case of the performing arts, an audition.

A magnet is a school with offerings which attract students from outside its attendance area.

They are using it to entice students to go from other schools that are brighter and have higher test scores. It's not a magnet and just offering specialty classes. Past few years multiple students have gone back to their home schools from Loiederman. The arts program is meh.

Which is what magnets often do.

Yes, but the programs are not for smart or gifted and very basic. Its not a real magnet. Its a fancy name for specializing.

Do you or did you have a kid at one of these schools? Because I know some pretty smart, gifted, and talented kids at Loiederman. And the arts program there is manifestly not meh or basic. The problem is rather the reverse: the standards are high and so it can be harder to get into the shows for theater (whether spoken or musical), which _are_ auditioned through a rigorous process. Theater classes, however, are available to all students. Dance company is also auditioned, although dance classes are open to everyone. Kids ascend through levels in band, orchestra, and chorus, and each higher one is obviously a great deal better than the last. So the program is really for kids who want to work quite hard at something they love and improve at it year over year. Just because it's not math doesn't mean it's not difficult or worthwhile, and just because it's not auditioned for entrance into the school doesn't mean there are no expectations.

This is a long post about theatre, but the performing arts include band, orchestra and chorus. I think they are considerably less impressive. Where are all the Loiederman kids in All State and Honors ensembles?

All State and Honors ensembles are a separate thing from school. Not all students want to participate in those