Are women being prosecuted for abortions in states that outlaw it?

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately with doctors leaving, eventually the women in those states will have sup-par health care. I expect to see the rates of maternal morbidity and mortality rising disproportionately in red states.

That’s ready started

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Anonymous wrote:I read the other day about a woman in one of the southern states (Texas?) prosecuted for a miscarriage, based on accusations that she deliberately caused it. Need to ind the link. She was sentenced to jail, spent 2 years but has had her sentence overturned but the prosecutor is threatening to go after her again.

Here’s the link. It was Nevada

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2024/abortion-law-nevada-arrest-miscarriage/

Not the best example, there were a lot of problems with that situation, including the pregnant woman. She was in the third trimester, smoking meth. Everyone involved in that case is awful.

The reality is this is reality for many women. They get desperate. They do desperate things. This is why abortion should be safe and legal. Because there will always be desperate women who do desperate things. You'll never legislate that away. Especially not with Republicans in control - they create more desperation for people on the lower rungs of society. Always have, always will.

Did you even read the entire article to hear about this woman? She shouldn’t have even had custody of the children she already had. It was so sad for those children. And after all this, she’s had ANOTHER kid.

She is not the example you think she should be and her situation doesn’t help the pro choice cause. What her situation does show is how badly her community failed her and how she keeps failing herself. When she went to jail, her children were left with the crazy meth head older man in his trailer. WTAF.

The better WaPo story was the one about the teenage mom in Idaho who can’t make her own medical decisions bc of new Idaho laws. Not this one.

Once again - WHY do you want to force a woman like that to bear a child she doesn't want??? It doesn't make sense. She is a perfect example of why abortion should be legal and safe. Don't force women on the edge to go through with an unwanted pregnancy they can't handle and that will send them over the edge and their children to foster care.

In the third trimester? And her children should have already been in foster care. Did you even read the article?

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Anonymous wrote:Women are dying! We may not be hearing much about prosecutions because the doctors are not performing the abortion.

Another woman died just yesterday in Texas

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/10/30/texas-abortion-ban-josseli-barnica-death-miscarriage/

This happened in 2021, before Roe v Wade was overturned.

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Anonymous wrote:I read the other day about a woman in one of the southern states (Texas?) prosecuted for a miscarriage, based on accusations that she deliberately caused it. Need to ind the link. She was sentenced to jail, spent 2 years but has had her sentence overturned but the prosecutor is threatening to go after her again.

Here’s the link. It was Nevada

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2024/abortion-law-nevada-arrest-miscarriage/

Not the best example, there were a lot of problems with that situation, including the pregnant woman. She was in the third trimester, smoking meth. Everyone involved in that case is awful.

The reality is this is reality for many women. They get desperate. They do desperate things. This is why abortion should be safe and legal. Because there will always be desperate women who do desperate things. You'll never legislate that away. Especially not with Republicans in control - they create more desperation for people on the lower rungs of society. Always have, always will.

Did you even read the entire article to hear about this woman? She shouldn’t have even had custody of the children she already had. It was so sad for those children. And after all this, she’s had ANOTHER kid.

She is not the example you think she should be and her situation doesn’t help the pro choice cause. What her situation does show is how badly her community failed her and how she keeps failing herself. When she went to jail, her children were left with the crazy meth head older man in his trailer. WTAF.

The better WaPo story was the one about the teenage mom in Idaho who can’t make her own medical decisions bc of new Idaho laws. Not this one.

Once again - WHY do you want to force a woman like that to bear a child she doesn't want??? It doesn't make sense. She is a perfect example of why abortion should be legal and safe. Don't force women on the edge to go through with an unwanted pregnancy they can't handle and that will send them over the edge and their children to foster care.

In the third trimester? And her children should have already been in foster care. Did you even read the article?

She should have had one earlier. What were the barriers to her getting one? She had no car and the closest clinic was 2.5 hours away. In the end she didn’t get an abortion, she had a miscarriage. You can claim it was self induced but that is impossible to prove and at any rate there was no proof of how far along she was. She should never have been prosecuted. She needed help.

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Anonymous wrote:Women are dying! We may not be hearing much about prosecutions because the doctors are not performing the abortion.

Another woman died just yesterday in Texas

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/10/30/texas-abortion-ban-josseli-barnica-death-miscarriage/

This happened in 2021, before Roe v Wade was overturned.

It happened after Texas enacted its ban on abortions when there was a fetal “heartbeat”.

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Anonymous wrote:This case in Ohio was pretty big news
https://apnews.com/article/ohio-miscarriage-prosecution-brittany-watts-b8090abfb5994b8a23457b80cf3f27ce

That was a Tuesday in September. What followed was a harrowing three days entailing: multiple trips to the hospital; Watts miscarrying into, and then flushing and plunging, a toilet at her home; a police investigation of those actions; and Watts, who is Black, being charged with abuse of a corpse. That’s a fifth-degree felony punishable by up to a year in prison and a $2,500 fine.

Abusing a corpse isn’t the same as abortion.

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Anonymous wrote:I read the other day about a woman in one of the southern states (Texas?) prosecuted for a miscarriage, based on accusations that she deliberately caused it. Need to ind the link. She was sentenced to jail, spent 2 years but has had her sentence overturned but the prosecutor is threatening to go after her again.

Here’s the link. It was Nevada

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2024/abortion-law-nevada-arrest-miscarriage/

Not the best example, there were a lot of problems with that situation, including the pregnant woman. She was in the third trimester, smoking meth. Everyone involved in that case is awful.

The reality is this is reality for many women. They get desperate. They do desperate things. This is why abortion should be safe and legal. Because there will always be desperate women who do desperate things. You'll never legislate that away. Especially not with Republicans in control - they create more desperation for people on the lower rungs of society. Always have, always will.

Did you even read the entire article to hear about this woman? She shouldn’t have even had custody of the children she already had. It was so sad for those children. And after all this, she’s had ANOTHER kid.

She is not the example you think she should be and her situation doesn’t help the pro choice cause. What her situation does show is how badly her community failed her and how she keeps failing herself. When she went to jail, her children were left with the crazy meth head older man in his trailer. WTAF.

The better WaPo story was the one about the teenage mom in Idaho who can’t make her own medical decisions bc of new Idaho laws. Not this one.

Once again - WHY do you want to force a woman like that to bear a child she doesn't want??? It doesn't make sense. She is a perfect example of why abortion should be legal and safe. Don't force women on the edge to go through with an unwanted pregnancy they can't handle and that will send them over the edge and their children to foster care.

In the third trimester? And her children should have already been in foster care. Did you even read the article?

She should have had one earlier. What were the barriers to her getting one? She had no car and the closest clinic was 2.5 hours away. In the end she didn’t get an abortion, she had a miscarriage. You can claim it was self induced but that is impossible to prove and at any rate there was no proof of how far along she was. She should never have been prosecuted. She needed help.

+1 the woman was sentenced to MULTIPLE YEARS in prison because a judgemental bible thumping police officer targeted her and went above her boss to get a warrant.

The officer took the fetus’s ashes home and prays to them daily, but didn’t GAF when the poor woman’s other children had to live with a meth head after the officer imprisoned their mother. That is f***ked up beyond belief.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering why I haven't heard much politically about women and doctors who are being prosecuted for abortions. Or even their husbands who might have allowed it. Isn't the fact that it is now a crime an issue for police and jails?

No. It’s just he women who are dying, that’s all. (Who cares, right?) and leaving their current children orphaned. Or women having hysterectomies because they went into sepsis and now can’t have children anymore. Of course there isn’t any persecution….

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Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering why I haven't heard much politically about women and doctors who are being prosecuted for abortions. Or even their husbands who might have allowed it. Isn't the fact that it is now a crime an issue for police and jails?

The ultimate prosecution for some of them ....death.

In the last year I think something like 2 women have died due to complications from lack of access to abortions.
In the years before roe, about 7 women died per year due to complications from having abortions.

The problem isn't death and noone really thinks it is. The problem is autonomy and freedom.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering why I haven't heard much politically about women and doctors who are being prosecuted for abortions. Or even their husbands who might have allowed it. Isn't the fact that it is now a crime an issue for police and jails?

The ultimate prosecution for some of them ....death.

In the last year I think something like 2 women have died due to complications from lack of access to abortions.
In the years before roe, about 7 women died per year due to complications from having abortions.

The problem isn't death and noone really thinks it is. The problem is autonomy and freedom.

You’ve only read about two in the news. Maternal morbidity has increased in the abortion ban states. You also aren’t counting all the medical evacuations out of red states into blue states. This leads to bankruptcy. The recovery and long term organ damage from sepsis, if you survive , will eventually kill you.

As someone who went through two high risk pregnancies, I wouldn’t do it now with ob/gyns having their hands tied if things go south.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering why I haven't heard much politically about women and doctors who are being prosecuted for abortions. Or even their husbands who might have allowed it. Isn't the fact that it is now a crime an issue for police and jails?

The ultimate prosecution for some of them ....death.

In the last year I think something like 2 women have died due to complications from lack of access to abortions.
In the years before roe, about 7 women died per year due to complications from having abortions.

The problem isn't death and noone really thinks it is. The problem is autonomy and freedom.

You’ve only read about two in the news. Maternal morbidity has increased in the abortion ban states. You also aren’t counting all the medical evacuations out of red states into blue states. This leads to bankruptcy. The recovery and long term organ damage from sepsis, if you survive , will eventually kill you.

As someone who went through two high risk pregnancies, I wouldn’t do it now with ob/gyns having their hands tied if things go south.

+1 So far there have been two deaths in Texas in 2021 and two deaths in Georgia in 2022, and that’s as far as the reporting has gone. We will find out about many more as the years go on.