We can survive Harris, not Trump

[Anonymous]

“Unchecked invasion” is the perfect wording (upthread). How can anyone, on either side, defend this? Do you leave your doors and windows unlocked 24/7? Ever think about why not??

[Anonymous]

We already had Trump for one term, after people were making similar predictions in 2016 that he would start nuclear wars with tweets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We already had Trump for one term, after people were making similar predictions in 2016 that he would start nuclear wars with tweets.

A second term would be different. The first time around Trump hired people who went on to disappoint him by not fully supporting his MAGA agenda (Mattis, Sessions, Tillerson, etc.) and even his most loyal advisors would tell him "you can't do this because it would hurt your re-election chances." If he gets back in he'll surround himself with MAGA yes-men and as a lame duck there will be no constraints on his worst impulses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Unchecked invasion” is the perfect wording (upthread). How can anyone, on either side, defend this? Do you leave your doors and windows unlocked 24/7? Ever think about why not??

Democrats want to protect everything but our borders. They believe every economic migrant from all over the world has a right to enter our country illegally. That’s all their “border bill” was - a bill to process mass numbers of illegal immigrants into country and release them with immediate work permits. What a solution

We have literally had over 10 million people enter our country illegally. The sheer numbers are astounding and dwarf the populations of many states and foreign countries. I cannot support a party that shows such disregard for our sovereignty and security. We have seen the negative effects of the Biden-Harris migrant invasion on communities all over the country, and it would only get worse with a second term if this administration, now with open border czar Kamala in charge.

[Anonymous]

And a vote for trump is a handoff to Vance. Did you forget Trump’s age and decline?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Unchecked invasion” is the perfect wording (upthread). How can anyone, on either side, defend this? Do you leave your doors and windows unlocked 24/7? Ever think about why not??

Democrats want to protect everything but our borders. They believe every economic migrant from all over the world has a right to enter our country illegally. That’s all their “border bill” was - a bill to process mass numbers of illegal immigrants into country and release them with immediate work permits. What a solution

We have literally had over 10 million people enter our country illegally. The sheer numbers are astounding and dwarf the populations of many states and foreign countries. I cannot support a party that shows such disregard for our sovereignty and security. We have seen the negative effects of the Biden-Harris migrant invasion on communities all over the country, and it would only get worse with a second term if this administration, now with open border czar Kamala in charge.

This all sounds very reasonable, but it isn’t. For starters, yes there are that many illegal immigrants, but they have come here over *decades*. Most of them are married to our parents of American citizens at this point. Most of them have jobs and pay taxes and are not eligible to receive most federal benefits, so they are a net economic positive to the country. You probably neither understand nor care that this is the truth.

The second massive lie you promulgate is that somehow Democrats are in favor of open borders. This is outrageously untrue. Obama and now Biden have had peak deportations greater than what Trump had. Open border? Why did Trump do such a bad job of securing the border during his four years, including constant illegal activities, and why do people think it was somehow some kind of miracle?

And, if that weren’t enough, remember what Trump had said in 2016? Build the wall. He massively failed to build the wall. And now what is he saying this time? Deport all of them. He will fail at that too, absolutely. I’d rather have somebody who doesn’t have a strong policy but fulfills it than somebody who proclaims he will do an amazing thing and does nothing.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ICE director verified that Biden’s administration has let in around 450,000 crimjnals. They want to keep them here and let in more.

We’re surviving nothing if Harris gets in.

Yes, I don’t think we will be able to survive the massive illegal immigration caused by the Biden-Harris regime for another four years.

For better or worse, it is the open borders and the horrific people pouring in (ie Venezuelan gangs) that will give Trump the White House.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ICE director verified that Biden’s administration has let in around 450,000 crimjnals. They want to keep them here and let in more.

We’re surviving nothing if Harris gets in.

And yet crime levels in almost every city are dropping. So we seem to be surviving just fine. Maybe even thriving.

Source? Because there’s plenty of video evidence, widely circulated, from cities and towns alike lately to the contrary. These cities are now like a Mad Max movie. But maybe you’re ok with that.

Decreases in violent crime in 54 out of 69 metro areas:
https://majorcitieschiefs.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/MCCA-Violent-Crime-Report-2024-and-2023-Midyear.pdf
But why rely on statistics when you can look at Tik Tok videos?

DP. Yup, but "video evidence". It would be comical if it weren't so depressing. This is why we cant have nice things.

Video evidence...OMG.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ICE director verified that Biden’s administration has let in around 450,000 crimjnals. They want to keep them here and let in more.

We’re surviving nothing if Harris gets in.

Yes, I don’t think we will be able to survive the massive illegal immigration caused by the Biden-Harris regime for another four years.

For better or worse, it is the open borders and the horrific people pouring in (ie Venezuelan gangs) that will give Trump the White House.

Stop lying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Unchecked invasion” is the perfect wording (upthread). How can anyone, on either side, defend this? Do you leave your doors and windows unlocked 24/7? Ever think about why not??

Democrats want to protect everything but our borders. They believe every economic migrant from all over the world has a right to enter our country illegally. That’s all their “border bill” was - a bill to process mass numbers of illegal immigrants into country and release them with immediate work permits. What a solution

We have literally had over 10 million people enter our country illegally. The sheer numbers are astounding and dwarf the populations of many states and foreign countries. I cannot support a party that shows such disregard for our sovereignty and security. We have seen the negative effects of the Biden-Harris migrant invasion on communities all over the country, and it would only get worse with a second term if this administration, now with open border czar Kamala in charge.

I guess if Trump had built that wall or hadn't killed the bipartisan immigration bill...instead of breaking promises. Such tough talk, so little to show for it.

I'm sure he'll be able to do that this time, except for the illegal immigrants he's curretnly employing. Or, that his friends are employing. Then, he'll stick it to us to cover the migrant camps, the deportations, the future lack of tax base that illegal immigrants have been paying into the system ($96B annually). We'll probably have food shortages and massive inflation, but it's gonna cost us to MAGA.

BTW, I'd love to hear how much more you're willing to pay for taxes, food, and housing to pay for all this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Unchecked invasion” is the perfect wording (upthread). How can anyone, on either side, defend this? Do you leave your doors and windows unlocked 24/7? Ever think about why not??

Democrats want to protect everything but our borders. They believe every economic migrant from all over the world has a right to enter our country illegally. That’s all their “border bill” was - a bill to process mass numbers of illegal immigrants into country and release them with immediate work permits. What a solution

We have literally had over 10 million people enter our country illegally. The sheer numbers are astounding and dwarf the populations of many states and foreign countries. I cannot support a party that shows such disregard for our sovereignty and security. We have seen the negative effects of the Biden-Harris migrant invasion on communities all over the country, and it would only get worse with a second term if this administration, now with open border czar Kamala in charge.

I guess if Trump had built that wall or hadn't killed the bipartisan immigration bill...instead of breaking promises. Such tough talk, so little to show for it.

I'm sure he'll be able to do that this time, except for the illegal immigrants he's curretnly employing. Or, that his friends are employing. Then, he'll stick it to us to cover the migrant camps, the deportations, the future lack of tax base that illegal immigrants have been paying into the system ($96B annually). We'll probably have food shortages and massive inflation, but it's gonna cost us to MAGA.

BTW, I'd love to hear how much more you're willing to pay for taxes, food, and housing to pay for all this?

+1 So much talk, so little solution

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ICE director verified that Biden’s administration has let in around 450,000 crimjnals. They want to keep them here and let in more.

We’re surviving nothing if Harris gets in.

And yet crime levels in almost every city are dropping. So we seem to be surviving just fine. Maybe even thriving.

Yes. The sky seems to be staying where it should, despite what that other PP says about it. AND the economy is doing great.

Is that why we are on track to have the highest homeless population ever? Because the economy is doing great?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ICE director verified that Biden’s administration has let in around 450,000 crimjnals. They want to keep them here and let in more.

We’re surviving nothing if Harris gets in.

And yet crime levels in almost every city are dropping. So we seem to be surviving just fine. Maybe even thriving.

Yes. The sky seems to be staying where it should, despite what that other PP says about it. AND the economy is doing great.

Is that why we are on track to have the highest homeless population ever? Because the economy is doing great?

Highest homeless population ever, and yet Democrats are spending public funds to house illegal immigrants and are prioritizing them over homeless Americans and veterans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ICE director verified that Biden’s administration has let in around 450,000 crimjnals. They want to keep them here and let in more.

We’re surviving nothing if Harris gets in.

And yet crime levels in almost every city are dropping. So we seem to be surviving just fine. Maybe even thriving.

Yes. The sky seems to be staying where it should, despite what that other PP says about it. AND the economy is doing great.

Is that why we are on track to have the highest homeless population ever? Because the economy is doing great?

Highest homeless population ever, and yet Democrats are spending public funds to house illegal immigrants and are prioritizing them over homeless Americans and veterans.

The reason we have higher homelessness is not because of illegal immigration. At all. It’s because of tight supply and high costs. Harris proposes to offer buyer incentives, builder incentives, and improve permitting, all of which have been shown in the past to be beneficial. Trump proposes to deport immigrants, privatize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and slash zoning restrictions, none of which have been shown in the past to be workable or beneficial.

If you care about the homeless population, and it sounds like you do, then logically you’re voting Harris.