The highest GPA is lower at TJ than at the base high school

[Anonymous]

Thanks for above information about AP Computer Science A . My daughter will take this course at 10th grade. It looks like that most of time to learn data structure.
At TJ, it is really very hard to get a A grade at core stem course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At TJ AP Computer Science A class covers all the material for the AP exam in the first 2 months of the school year. Then they go on to data structures which are taught to 2nd year Computer Science students at most colleges.

At base HS, AP Computer Science A class is taught the entire school year. So at TJ you cover in 2 months what is taught during the entire year at base HS.

This is just one example of one course. This level of rigor is common throughout the curriculum at TJ.

Someone getting a B at TJ would be easily be making an A at base HS.

We have first hand experience at both base HS and TJ.

This is misleading.

TJ Foundations of CS (first year) is most of AP CS A, and Data Structures (2nd year) finishes CS A and moves on.
Advanced students can skip prereqs, same as most schools.

Non-TJ gets that Data Structures class via Dual Enrollment (or MCPS).

Yes, TJ classes are more rigorous than the lower options at other schools. But higher options are also available at other schools, and students making Bs in those classes would make As easier in lowe classes. The problem with other schools is that they run out of math of chem or physics or CS classes, so students who want to excel need to do Dual Enrollment, or take advanced electives in more than their preferred STEM subject.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for all above reply about AP computer Science A. I will let my daughter to learn Data Structure more in summer holiday. Thanks again for telling information!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At TJ AP Computer Science A class covers all the material for the AP exam in the first 2 months of the school year. Then they go on to data structures which are taught to 2nd year Computer Science students at most colleges.

At base HS, AP Computer Science A class is taught the entire school year. So at TJ you cover in 2 months what is taught during the entire year at base HS.

This is just one example of one course. This level of rigor is common throughout the curriculum at TJ.

Someone getting a B at TJ would be easily be making an A at base HS.

We have first hand experience at both base HS and TJ.

This is misleading.

TJ Foundations of CS (first year) is most of AP CS A, and Data Structures (2nd year) finishes CS A and moves on.
Advanced students can skip prereqs, same as most schools.

Non-TJ gets that Data Structures class via Dual Enrollment (or MCPS).

Yes, TJ classes are more rigorous than the lower options at other schools. But higher options are also available at other schools, and students making Bs in those classes would make As easier in lowe classes. The problem with other schools is that they run out of math of chem or physics or CS classes, so students who want to excel need to do Dual Enrollment, or take advanced electives in more than their preferred STEM subject.

This does not make sense.

We are comparing the rigor of a particular course at TJ vs base HS.

Someone taking AP Comp Sci A at base HS is taking a much easier course compared to the same course at TJ.

A given student would have vastly easier time getting an A in AP Comp Sci A at base HS than at TJ.

At base HS you take one course in AP Comp Sci A and then dual enroll for another course on data structures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for all above reply about AP computer Science A. I will let my daughter to learn Data Structure more in summer holiday. Thanks again for telling information!

This is one of the easier courses at TJ. I would not waste time learning data structures in summer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for all above reply about AP computer Science A. I will let my daughter to learn Data Structure more in summer holiday. Thanks again for telling information!

This is one of the easier courses at TJ. I would not waste time learning data structures in summer.

Thanks for reply! Can you introduce which AP or post AP TJ courses are easier?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
According to TJ school profile, the Class of 2022 Final Grade Point Averages (8th semester) ranged from 3.255 to 4.663

Based on the multiple Naviance scattergrams for TJ, a weighted average of
4.65 or above is top 01%
4.64 or above is top 02%
4.60 or above is top 05%
4.55 or above is top 10%
4.53 or above is top 15%
4.50 or above is top 25%
4.45 or above is top 33%
4.40 or above is top 40%
4.38 or above is top 50%
4.35 or above is top 60%
4.33 or above is top 66%
4.30 or above is top 75%
4.00 or above is top 90%
3.75 or above is top 95%
3.25 or above is top 100%

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1200980.page

Then there is definitely inflated grades at TJ.

How does it matter? grade inflation is relative and colleges know it. for instance, UVA does not even open applications from TJ with less than 4.4 GPA.

Again, this is completely and totally false.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
According to TJ school profile, the Class of 2022 Final Grade Point Averages (8th semester) ranged from 3.255 to 4.663

Based on the multiple Naviance scattergrams for TJ, a weighted average of
4.65 or above is top 01%
4.64 or above is top 02%
4.60 or above is top 05%
4.55 or above is top 10%
4.53 or above is top 15%
4.50 or above is top 25%
4.45 or above is top 33%
4.40 or above is top 40%
4.38 or above is top 50%
4.35 or above is top 60%
4.33 or above is top 66%
4.30 or above is top 75%
4.00 or above is top 90%
3.75 or above is top 95%
3.25 or above is top 100%

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1200980.page

Then there is definitely inflated grades at TJ.

How does it matter? grade inflation is relative and colleges know it. for instance, UVA does not even open applications from TJ with less than 4.4 GPA.

Again, this is completely and totally false.

It's more like hyperbole. 4.3 students rarely get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
According to TJ school profile, the Class of 2022 Final Grade Point Averages (8th semester) ranged from 3.255 to 4.663

Based on the multiple Naviance scattergrams for TJ, a weighted average of
4.65 or above is top 01%
4.64 or above is top 02%
4.60 or above is top 05%
4.55 or above is top 10%
4.53 or above is top 15%
4.50 or above is top 25%
4.45 or above is top 33%
4.40 or above is top 40%
4.38 or above is top 50%
4.35 or above is top 60%
4.33 or above is top 66%
4.30 or above is top 75%
4.00 or above is top 90%
3.75 or above is top 95%
3.25 or above is top 100%

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1200980.page

Then there is definitely inflated grades at TJ.

I dunno. Every class is honors at TJ and a lot of AP courses at TJ cpmared to other schools so...

I wouldn't be surprised if the unweighted GPA at TJ is about the same or lower than the unweighted GPA of the honors students at base schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At TJ AP Computer Science A class covers all the material for the AP exam in the first 2 months of the school year. Then they go on to data structures which are taught to 2nd year Computer Science students at most colleges.

At base HS, AP Computer Science A class is taught the entire school year. So at TJ you cover in 2 months what is taught during the entire year at base HS.

This is just one example of one course. This level of rigor is common throughout the curriculum at TJ.

Someone getting a B at TJ would be easily be making an A at base HS.

We have first hand experience at both base HS and TJ.

This is misleading.

TJ Foundations of CS (first year) is most of AP CS A, and Data Structures (2nd year) finishes CS A and moves on.
Advanced students can skip prereqs, same as most schools.

Non-TJ gets that Data Structures class via Dual Enrollment (or MCPS).

Yes, TJ classes are more rigorous than the lower options at other schools. But higher options are also available at other schools, and students making Bs in those classes would make As easier in lowe classes. The problem with other schools is that they run out of math of chem or physics or CS classes, so students who want to excel need to do Dual Enrollment, or take advanced electives in more than their preferred STEM subject.

That's so weird in another TJ thread some parent was just complaining about the rampant grade inflation and how GPA is meaningless. Which is it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for all above reply about AP computer Science A. I will let my daughter to learn Data Structure more in summer holiday. Thanks again for telling information!

This is one of the easier courses at TJ. I would not waste time learning data structures in summer.

No learning goes waste.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
According to TJ school profile, the Class of 2022 Final Grade Point Averages (8th semester) ranged from 3.255 to 4.663

Based on the multiple Naviance scattergrams for TJ, a weighted average of
4.65 or above is top 01%
4.64 or above is top 02%
4.60 or above is top 05%
4.55 or above is top 10%
4.53 or above is top 15%
4.50 or above is top 25%
4.45 or above is top 33%
4.40 or above is top 40%
4.38 or above is top 50%
4.35 or above is top 60%
4.33 or above is top 66%
4.30 or above is top 75%
4.00 or above is top 90%
3.75 or above is top 95%
3.25 or above is top 100%

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1200980.page

Then there is definitely inflated grades at TJ.

How does it matter? grade inflation is relative and colleges know it. for instance, UVA does not even open applications from TJ with less than 4.4 GPA.

Again, this is completely and totally false.

It's more like hyperbole. 4.3 students rarely get in.

wow - at our magnet HS 4.75 is the bottom 15% of the class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for all above reply about AP computer Science A. I will let my daughter to learn Data Structure more in summer holiday. Thanks again for telling information!

This is one of the easier courses at TJ. I would not waste time learning data structures in summer.

No learning goes waste.

Most learning goes to waste.
I have an encyclopedic knowledge of the show "everybody loves raymond" and I rarely if ever get to use it.
I learned trigonometry in high school and it has been a loooong time since I need to use a cosine for anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
According to TJ school profile, the Class of 2022 Final Grade Point Averages (8th semester) ranged from 3.255 to 4.663

Based on the multiple Naviance scattergrams for TJ, a weighted average of
4.65 or above is top 01%
4.64 or above is top 02%
4.60 or above is top 05%
4.55 or above is top 10%
4.53 or above is top 15%
4.50 or above is top 25%
4.45 or above is top 33%
4.40 or above is top 40%
4.38 or above is top 50%
4.35 or above is top 60%
4.33 or above is top 66%
4.30 or above is top 75%
4.00 or above is top 90%
3.75 or above is top 95%
3.25 or above is top 100%

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1200980.page

Then there is definitely inflated grades at TJ.

How does it matter? grade inflation is relative and colleges know it. for instance, UVA does not even open applications from TJ with less than 4.4 GPA.

Again, this is completely and totally false.

It's more like hyperbole. 4.3 students rarely get in.

wow - at our magnet HS 4.75 is the bottom 15% of the class.

For most private selective schools, they use your raw scores and have their own weighting system.
They don't give AP basket-weaving the same weight as AP calculus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
According to TJ school profile, the Class of 2022 Final Grade Point Averages (8th semester) ranged from 3.255 to 4.663

Based on the multiple Naviance scattergrams for TJ, a weighted average of
4.65 or above is top 01%
4.64 or above is top 02%
4.60 or above is top 05%
4.55 or above is top 10%
4.53 or above is top 15%
4.50 or above is top 25%
4.45 or above is top 33%
4.40 or above is top 40%
4.38 or above is top 50%
4.35 or above is top 60%
4.33 or above is top 66%
4.30 or above is top 75%
4.00 or above is top 90%
3.75 or above is top 95%
3.25 or above is top 100%

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1200980.page

Then there is definitely inflated grades at TJ.

How does it matter? grade inflation is relative and colleges know it. for instance, UVA does not even open applications from TJ with less than 4.4 GPA.

Again, this is completely and totally false.

It's more like hyperbole. 4.3 students rarely get in.

wow - at our magnet HS 4.75 is the bottom 15% of the class.

For most private selective schools, they use your raw scores and have their own weighting system.
They don't give AP basket-weaving the same weight as AP calculus

That statistic of <4.74 being in the bottom 15% of the class is from MCPS Montgomery Blair's SMCS program where 50% of the class is NMSF and the average SAT score is 10+ higher than TJ's average.