Culturally, would honking or flashing be 'safer' than passing on the right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in the UK and france where it's very much a given that the far right (or left in the case of the uk) lane is for passing only. If someone sits in that lane then it's entirely acceptable to honk at or flash them to move over. I've noticed that in the US it's not culturally acceptable to do this, so cars 'sit' in the fast lane going too slowly, feeling no social pressure via things like: the car in the lane to their right going at the same speed or faster, or a car behind them being close. As a result, cars pass them on the right which is SO dangerous and results in crashes, deaths.
would it not be better to just honk/ flash than pass dangerously?

What do you do if you are going 20 miles above the speed limit zipping by cars in the right lane? You are technically passing all the time, so do you yield to someone who wants to go even faster? What do you do if the car in front doesn’t yield despite your honking and flashing? I can see how passing on the right can be SO dangerous if there is no speed limit like in Germany, otherwise I like the system here better.

Op - there’s nothing wrong with passing cars in the right lane. The far left lane should be for passing only. And yes you yield for anyone who wants to go faster. What’s nice about the honk/ flash is that you aren’t constantly looking to see if someone is right behind you which is the indication that they want to pass (and dangerous). You can focus on driving and know if someone comes up and wants to pass they’ll let you know.

Didn't you take driver's ed in the US? This is absurd that you aren't constantly checking. It's actually a thing they teach you and you should be doing it, alert, checking mirrors, lots of brief checks. If you aren't doing this or you CANNOT do it, please get off the roads.

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It's called LLLC
https://www.government-fleet.com/10143195/the-4-principles-of-safe-driving

If the idiot PP above is "focusing on driving" they should be doing the below. Which is actually how focused drivers drive:

"1. Look Ahead
Drivers need to be prepared for what’s ahead of them. Your drivers need to look ahead with an eye-lead time of 15 seconds. This lets them see traffic slowing down, pedestrians, or changes in traffic flow or the speed limit before they become a problem.

2. Look Around
The information your drivers need to prevent accidents isn’t just happening ahead of them — it’s happening all around them. That’s why drivers need to look around.

Drivers should look around by changing their point of focus every 2 to 3 seconds and checking their mirrors every 5 to 8. This kind of defensive driving ensures that they take in their entire driving environment on the road ahead.

3. Leave Room
Look ahead and look around are all about seeing risk. Leave room is what you do with that information."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is not always “easy” to move to the right when passing a cluster of vehicles jammed nearly bumper to bumper in that lane. Even in the unlikely event that one of them yields moving over will trap me in their no-following-distance zone. Once I’m above the limit in the next lane over I don’t feel a huge obligation to endanger myself or others just so somebody can go even further above the limit. I move when I safely can but people who tailgate and flash their lights like they’re on some fantasy Autobahn need to bide their time.

You can’t both be traveling fast and be up against bumper to bumper traffic. If you’re going at any speed you can move over, come on. It’s just selfish not to do it bc it’s annoying or hard.

The bolded is completely untrue in this area. In fact the biggest thing I noticed about traffic when I moved here is that people travel so closely together at highway speeds. It could easily take a mile before I can move rightward into the densely packed lane I've been passing - especially if I can't slow down because you're riding my tail.

People who act like it's a personal attack to have to slow down (to only 10 over the speed limit!) ever, at all - you are the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is not always “easy” to move to the right when passing a cluster of vehicles jammed nearly bumper to bumper in that lane. Even in the unlikely event that one of them yields moving over will trap me in their no-following-distance zone. Once I’m above the limit in the next lane over I don’t feel a huge obligation to endanger myself or others just so somebody can go even further above the limit. I move when I safely can but people who tailgate and flash their lights like they’re on some fantasy Autobahn need to bide their time.

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