Agree w/this. It’s lost its luster. |
If competing and placing at nationals, I would include on the awards section. |
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Two Questions on the 10 ECs:
1. If you have a highly regarded EC (congressional internship/US senate page program), I assume you always include that in the list of 10, and not as an Honor/Award? 2. If you have too many ECs that you want to highlight, but also want to make sure AOs know that you worked PT, should you include that in the additional info section? |
I don't think its meant for athletic achievement though - someone else may know better though. |
Yes, def include the PT jobs in the additional info section. It should be short, bulleted and to the point. |
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Kid is applying this year, has one of the highly selective summer science research programs mentioned in that tiered list. Acceptance rate is 10 percent, but it's also clearly an EC (many weeks, intense lab work).
We are not sure if should be listed solely as EC, with acceptance rate added as a detail, or whether it might be listed as both an EC and an Award. Anyone in a similar situation? If so, what do you think? |
Do you have a lot of other ECs? If so, list as an award? Or list as #1 EC and don’t include the acceptance rate (and put that in honors/awards). |
Disagree. That's what the EC section is for. Figure out how to scale it to 10 entries. Additional info section is for things like explaining why you couldn't take a 4th year of language. |
Thanks. It's probably the most important EC -- we were leaning toward doing as you suggest here. |
IMO medal is not harder than getting to IMO. 1/2 of all participants at IMO win medals. |
Hasn't the entire US team won a medal every year for the past several years? |
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Yes. And almost always everyone has gotten a gold medal, which I think is something like 1/6 of all medals. Not easy but once you make it to IMO as one of only six or so students, winning a medal is not that big of a deal. Yet this person put medal as a 10 but qualifying for IMO as 8. Qualifying is a 10, also, and is much much harder (more selective) than being a D1 athlete, hard as that is. |
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T20 Scoring advice (if you have at least one level 1 and a few level 2, your app should get to committee (assuming academics).
Score all 10 of your ECs. Level 1: displays outstanding achievement and is unlikely to be encountered on a regular basis by admissions committees - Winning a National Competition (math, debate, sports) - Writing a Novel - Raising substantial money for a Non-Profit - Founding a successful Startup or business Level 2: Noteworthy but universities are more likely to see it (more impressive if you founded the club with impact) - President of a Club - President MUN or debate - Regional Sports - Regional Orchestra or band - Regional Volunteer experiences *** leadership positions are key Level 3 Less impactful or impressive, but still show commitment to your community and interests - lower tier officer of aClub -Tutoring outside school -Player of Week Award -School's awards or recognitions Level 4 universities are more likely to see it, but they're still valuable for showing your potential -MUN participant -Science Olympiads -School's Sports -Playing in the school band -Learning piano outside of school -Local Volunteer Look at the Yale AO podcast to understand the EC scoring (it goes up to nine but most kids get a score between four and seven). A very high EC score can somewhat offset weakness in other places. |