To hybrid or not to hybrid

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Anonymous wrote:This is not really an apples to apples comparison. You need to look at the cost for a regular highlander versus the hybrid and compare your average yearly driving mileage. You can then calculate how much fuel savings you would have each year comparing the hybrid versus non and how long it will take to make up for the hybrid's higher initial purchase cost. Then, depending on how long you plan to have the vehicle, you will know when you start to "save" money on fuel costs.

It would be cheaper to buy the size car I want that’s not a hybrid, but I fear buyers regret once hybrids an EVs become more mainstream a few years down the road when charging infrastructure is more prevalent.

I don't think it's going to be only a few years!

I have a PHEV and I love it-I bought it used and only charge at home. My adult dc has a 2023 Hyundai Elantra Hybrid (not plug in) and they love it and get amazing mileage. Neither of us regret not buying an EV ( I did seriously consider it but did not due to lack of charging infrastructure where I live).

Why can't you charge at home? We have an EV and a PHEV and don't need a charging network near where we live because we charge at home.

PP here. I do charge at home - I said that in my post. I use a 120 volt plug (regular wall plug). My car's battery range is shorter than my long commute so I use some gas also. I do not have access to charging away from home.

Yes. I understood that. I asked because since you said you charge you charge the PHEV at home I didn't know why you would need charging infrastructure where you live. The additional info in your last post helped clarify.

Right, the reason I bought the PHEV rather than the full EV is that I found charging infrastructure away from home to be lacking, such as on the trip I just got back from. I ended up on gas for the whole trip because I was unable to charge away from home (hotel's charger was incompatible and nearby charger was nonfunctioning).

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We love our Camry Hybrid.

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Anonymous wrote:This is not really an apples to apples comparison. You need to look at the cost for a regular highlander versus the hybrid and compare your average yearly driving mileage. You can then calculate how much fuel savings you would have each year comparing the hybrid versus non and how long it will take to make up for the hybrid's higher initial purchase cost. Then, depending on how long you plan to have the vehicle, you will know when you start to "save" money on fuel costs.

It would be cheaper to buy the size car I want that’s not a hybrid, but I fear buyers regret once hybrids an EVs become more mainstream a few years down the road when charging infrastructure is more prevalent.

I don't think it's going to be only a few years!

I have a PHEV and I love it-I bought it used and only charge at home. My adult dc has a 2023 Hyundai Elantra Hybrid (not plug in) and they love it and get amazing mileage. Neither of us regret not buying an EV ( I did seriously consider it but did not due to lack of charging infrastructure where I live).

Why can't you charge at home? We have an EV and a PHEV and don't need a charging network near where we live because we charge at home.

PP here. I do charge at home - I said that in my post. I use a 120 volt plug (regular wall plug). My car's battery range is shorter than my long commute so I use some gas also. I do not have access to charging away from home.

Yes. I understood that. I asked because since you said you charge you charge the PHEV at home I didn't know why you would need charging infrastructure where you live. The additional info in your last post helped clarify.

Right, the reason I bought the PHEV rather than the full EV is that I found charging infrastructure away from home to be lacking, such as on the trip I just got back from. I ended up on gas for the whole trip because I was unable to charge away from home (hotel's charger was incompatible and nearby charger was nonfunctioning).

I understand. Thanks. I didn’t understand when you initially said you didn’t end up going with an EV because of lack of charging infrastructure where you live.

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The hybrid totally makes sense to us because most of the driving we do is short trips, which we can easily do all electric only charging a couple of times a week. We get about 30 miles on a full battery.

We also take a few long road trips a year and having to stop to charge was not an attractive option.

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Anonymous wrote:The hybrid totally makes sense to us because most of the driving we do is short trips, which we can easily do all electric only charging a couple of times a week. We get about 30 miles on a full battery.

We also take a few long road trips a year and having to stop to charge was not an attractive option.

Which make and model do you have?

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Does anyone have or has anyone considered the Ford Escape PHEV? This is one we are thinking about, but they seem to be very difficult to find locally, as least looking at inventories online.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have or has anyone considered the Ford Escape PHEV? This is one we are thinking about, but they seem to be very difficult to find locally, as least looking at inventories online.

I have a friend who loved theirs— only downside seems to be difficulty in getting them

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have or has anyone considered the Ford Escape PHEV? This is one we are thinking about, but they seem to be very difficult to find locally, as least looking at inventories online.

Why ?. Fords stink recall heaven

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have or has anyone considered the Ford Escape PHEV? This is one we are thinking about, but they seem to be very difficult to find locally, as least looking at inventories online.

Why ?. Fords stink recall heaven

DP. This may have been true in the past, but not so much in the last 20 years.

I owned a Ford Escape hybrid from 2006 until 2019. It was a good car for 150K miles. But then the problems started to mount up and the cost for repairs outstripped the value of the car. The A/C stopped working, then there were problems with the power steering, which was the final straw. Both of the issues required the onboard computer to be replaced first (about $3500) and then after that, they individual problems could be addressed. It was likely to cost well over $6K for the repairs. But prior to the computer issues, I had very few issues for 13 years and I loved that car.

I also know 2 people who bought Ford Escape hybrids after my positive experience, so I knew one that had a 2009 and one with a 2010. They discontinued that model in 2012 (I think). I have no idea about the latest PHEV version, but the older version was well worth it.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have or has anyone considered the Ford Escape PHEV? This is one we are thinking about, but they seem to be very difficult to find locally, as least looking at inventories online.

I have a friend who loved theirs— only downside seems to be difficulty in getting them

I did a search 75 miles from our zip code. It came up with 50 new, only 5 of which were red (our preferred color).

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have or has anyone considered the Ford Escape PHEV? This is one we are thinking about, but they seem to be very difficult to find locally, as least looking at inventories online.

I have a friend who loved theirs— only downside seems to be difficulty in getting them

I did a search 75 miles from our zip code. It came up with 50 new, only 5 of which were red (our preferred color).

Edit, to add that it looks like only 1 from the search is within 75 miles.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have or has anyone considered the Ford Escape PHEV? This is one we are thinking about, but they seem to be very difficult to find locally, as least looking at inventories online.

Why ?. Fords stink recall heaven

It's one make and model we are considering. Not set on it by any means. We'd like to have more electric range than mid-30s though with a PHEV. The PHEV we have currently gets in the mid-50s