Update from an Alumna of this Group
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Anonymous
Probably wanting to go to law school. |
Anonymous
| A lot of people are casting doubts on private school kids being better prepared. I saw it with my own eyes at the T10 I attended from a public high school (I think it's a 3 on greatschools right now). It was most noticeable in writing. Less so in math, where the real standouts tended to come from public magnets. I didn't know about the tippy top, but in the top of the middle of the pack, private school kids were overrepresented. |
Anonymous
Also, private school kids were more confident about speaking in class and presenting, more apt to use office hours. Again only on average, at the margins, and other disclaimers, but the effect was noticeable. |
Anonymous
LOL. and college admissions have changed dramatically in the last four years. Currently, public kids ARE getting in to top colleges more easily than privates because of the anti-elitism, DEI, URM, minority, etc. push of the elite university and college institutions. So, while the private system worked for HER, currently, you will see most private counselors will say that statistically the great public student has an edge over the great private student |
Anonymous
| It worked for us too OP. Only kid went private all the way and then Ivy. I would never have even considered public since we live in DC. |
Anonymous
Wishful thinking from a public school parent. That’s not what the facts say. Over representation of elite private school students at elite universities are one of the main reasons they’re elite. Not because there’s an over representation of poor/middle class strivers who need financial aid to attend. The truth stings. https://moco360.media/2023/09/13/where-montgomery-county-high-school-graduates-are-going-to-college/ |
Anonymous
+1 Magna cum laude son from one of the Catholic high schools |
Anonymous
They are over-represented because they can pay. |
Anonymous
Yup! And that’s why elite private school students will remain over represented at Ivy+/T-whatever elite colleges. There is nothing new under the sun. The prior PP is celebrating “the rise of the public school student at elite private universities.” It’s a lie that’s fed to the masses. These universities are just rearranging deck chairs around the margins. The (underrepresented) wealthy and powerful target group will maintain access to these spaces. |
Anonymous
| Keep telling yourself that. Full pay really isn't a hook at schools admitting under 10 percent of applicants (and also happen to give significant financial aid). |
Anonymous
Right. Tells me pp knows nothing about top schools. Soo many people can pay full price for top schools. |
Anonymous
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Elite colleges have long been filled with the children of the richest families: At Ivy League schools, one in six students has parents in the top 1 percent.
A large new study, released Monday, shows that it has not been because these children had more impressive grades on average or took harder classes. They tended to have higher SAT scores and finely honed résumés, and applied at a higher rate — but they were overrepresented even after accounting for those things. For applicants with the same SAT or ACT score, children from families in the top 1 percent were 34 percent more likely to be admitted than the average applicant, and those from the top 0.1 percent were more than twice as likely to get in. https://opportunityinsights.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/CollegeAdmissions_Nontech.pdf |
Anonymous
My goodness, MCPS schools live rent-free in your head. Always trying to measure up to MCPS. Several school districts in the area, but you always post about them. |
Anonymous
So naive… “When it came to the Ivy Plus schools (the plus being the University of Chicago, Duke, MIT, and Stanford)…chances of admission are lowest for children of the top 5 to 10 percent, who earn $158,200 to $222,400 a year. These applicants fare worse than both kids who are richer than them and kids who are poorer than them, all with similar test scores.” “Many elite schools also try to drive up their “yield rate,” the percentage of accepted students who actually enroll. And that’s why, for kids in the top 5 to 10 percent, “if you don’t apply early decision, which is binding, you’re probably not getting in,” Selingo says. “This income bracket tends to comparison-shop merit-aid packages or discounts in regular decision, and colleges know that, so they know their chance of yielding these kids is lower.” Another way of looking at it: A student who requires need-based financial aid clearly can’t pay, and a one percenter clearly can pay, but this income bracket is a wild card. Selingo says if they get “gapped,” meaning there’s a gap between what they can pay and what they’re being asked to pay (even with merit aid), the college will lose them. “That’s why these schools don’t love to admit these kids,” says Selingo. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/college-acceptance-rates-ivy-league-schools-wealth.html |
Anonymous
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^ This is a quote from the same article:
“Children of the top one percent, earning more than $611,000 a year, are significantly overrepresented in the Ivy League — more likely to attend selective private colleges than students from any other income bracket with comparable SAT and ACT scores.” |