TJ environment now

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why does every blessed TJ thread have to devolve into morons complaining about the admission systems?!?! Give it a rest!!!! Let us talk about the school without sucking every thread down the same rabbit hole loop about admissions!

Similar to the moron who keeps hallucinating about the fictitious test buying

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does every blessed TJ thread have to devolve into morons complaining about the admission systems?!?! Give it a rest!!!! Let us talk about the school without sucking every thread down the same rabbit hole loop about admissions!

Similar to the moron who keeps hallucinating about the fictitious test buying

Yes both of them are driving me insane by infecting every single thread with the exact same talking points.

[Anonymous]

Op here can anyone with a child there now share teaching style please?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Current principal's policies are not doing any favours to the students. She keeps saying that the staff is not there for the student's GPA but to be the GPS of the students. I don't think any colleges are looking for GPS. I am pretty sure that starting with class of 2025, the number of TJ students getting admitted to top college's will go down. Teachers there are frustrated because the students are not able to cope up with the rigor of the curriculum. Students seem to expect a curve for every tough test

There will be a much broader distribution of SAT scores with the class of 2025.
The consistency of mental horsepower just isn't there anymore.
You now have a school that is about as competitive as the top half of McLean's honor students.
There was a time when the vast majority of the Virginia USAMO qualifiers were from TJ.
This year's USAJMO (mostly freshmen and sophomores) is seeing a lot more diversity, with McLean, Longfellow and other Virginia schools seeing several students qualify.
Did all these students getting USAMO and USAJMO not apply to TJ or did the race driven admissions process fail to select them?

That's notable. The more likely of your scenarios is that top STEM talent is not getting recognized in the new admissions process.

My question was rhetorical.
There is a black student at woodson that developed a treatment for skin cancer while he was in middle school.
Under the old system that was more merit driven, he would likely be at TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why does every blessed TJ thread have to devolve into morons complaining about the admission systems?!?! Give it a rest!!!! Let us talk about the school without sucking every thread down the same rabbit hole loop about admissions!

The current environment at TJ is highly influenced by the difference in caliber of students there under this new admissions process.

[Anonymous]

OP you'll have to weed out the few answers in here that are from people with kids from the people who use every TJ thread to just push the same talking points in inane circles. I had no idea Russian troll bots were so bored all the time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Current principal's policies are not doing any favours to the students. She keeps saying that the staff is not there for the student's GPA but to be the GPS of the students. I don't think any colleges are looking for GPS. I am pretty sure that starting with class of 2025, the number of TJ students getting admitted to top college's will go down. Teachers there are frustrated because the students are not able to cope up with the rigor of the curriculum. Students seem to expect a curve for every tough test

There will be a much broader distribution of SAT scores with the class of 2025.
The consistency of mental horsepower just isn't there anymore.
You now have a school that is about as competitive as the top half of McLean's honor students.
There was a time when the vast majority of the Virginia USAMO qualifiers were from TJ.
This year's USAJMO (mostly freshmen and sophomores) is seeing a lot more diversity, with McLean, Longfellow and other Virginia schools seeing several students qualify.
Did all these students getting USAMO and USAJMO not apply to TJ or did the race driven admissions process fail to select them?

That's notable. The more likely of your scenarios is that top STEM talent is not getting recognized in the new admissions process.

My question was rhetorical.
There is a black student at woodson that developed a treatment for skin cancer while he was in middle school.
Under the old system that was more merit driven, he would likely be at TJ.

How do you even know if this kid is a good student? What if he got the idea from someone else? Or if he got the award for DEI reasons. What if he is a terrible writer? There are too many unknown factors to know if he would be a good student at TJ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Current principal's policies are not doing any favours to the students. She keeps saying that the staff is not there for the student's GPA but to be the GPS of the students. I don't think any colleges are looking for GPS. I am pretty sure that starting with class of 2025, the number of TJ students getting admitted to top college's will go down. Teachers there are frustrated because the students are not able to cope up with the rigor of the curriculum. Students seem to expect a curve for every tough test

There will be a much broader distribution of SAT scores with the class of 2025.
The consistency of mental horsepower just isn't there anymore.
You now have a school that is about as competitive as the top half of McLean's honor students.
There was a time when the vast majority of the Virginia USAMO qualifiers were from TJ.
This year's USAJMO (mostly freshmen and sophomores) is seeing a lot more diversity, with McLean, Longfellow and other Virginia schools seeing several students qualify.
Did all these students getting USAMO and USAJMO not apply to TJ or did the race driven admissions process fail to select them?

That's notable. The more likely of your scenarios is that top STEM talent is not getting recognized in the new admissions process.

My question was rhetorical.
There is a black student at woodson that developed a treatment for skin cancer while he was in middle school.
Under the old system that was more merit driven, he would likely be at TJ.

How do you even know if this kid is a good student? What if he got the idea from someone else? Or if he got the award for DEI reasons. What if he is a terrible writer? There are too many unknown factors to know if he would be a good student at TJ.

I didn't know that these STEM contests even gave out awards for DEI reasons. In fact,do they even ask for racial demographics?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why does every blessed TJ thread have to devolve into morons complaining about the admission systems?!?! Give it a rest!!!! Let us talk about the school without sucking every thread down the same rabbit hole loop about admissions!

The current environment at TJ is highly influenced by the difference in caliber of students there under this new admissions process.

Yes, many of the kids who were getting in under the old system were only able to do so because they had advanced access to the admission test. This let pretty average kids appear as gifted. Now at least they select the top kids from each school so the caliber is a bit higher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does every blessed TJ thread have to devolve into morons complaining about the admission systems?!?! Give it a rest!!!! Let us talk about the school without sucking every thread down the same rabbit hole loop about admissions!

Similar to the moron who keeps hallucinating about the fictitious test buying

Accept that the only fictious part were the morons who keep trying to sweep this under the rug despite numerous accounts and sources that validate this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Current principal's policies are not doing any favours to the students. She keeps saying that the staff is not there for the student's GPA but to be the GPS of the students. I don't think any colleges are looking for GPS. I am pretty sure that starting with class of 2025, the number of TJ students getting admitted to top college's will go down. Teachers there are frustrated because the students are not able to cope up with the rigor of the curriculum. Students seem to expect a curve for every tough test

There will be a much broader distribution of SAT scores with the class of 2025.
The consistency of mental horsepower just isn't there anymore.
You now have a school that is about as competitive as the top half of McLean's honor students.
There was a time when the vast majority of the Virginia USAMO qualifiers were from TJ.
This year's USAJMO (mostly freshmen and sophomores) is seeing a lot more diversity, with McLean, Longfellow and other Virginia schools seeing several students qualify.
Did all these students getting USAMO and USAJMO not apply to TJ or did the race driven admissions process fail to select them?

That's notable. The more likely of your scenarios is that top STEM talent is not getting recognized in the new admissions process.

My question was rhetorical.
There is a black student at woodson that developed a treatment for skin cancer while he was in middle school.
Under the old system that was more merit driven, he would likely be at TJ.

How do you even know if this kid is a good student? What if he got the idea from someone else? Or if he got the award for DEI reasons. What if he is a terrible writer? There are too many unknown factors to know if he would be a good student at TJ.

Well, clearly you know who I am talking about because the post you are responding to doesn't mention the 3M award he won.
I don't think the 3M award considers race.
And we know quite a bit about him, he did not receive the award anonymously.
If he doesn't belong at TJ, then who does?

Anyway, here is an article about him.

https://www.ffxnow.com/2024/03/05/woodson-hs-freshman-who-created-skin-cancer-treating-soap-honored-by-county-board/#:~:text=Heman%20Bekele%2C%20a%20ninth%2Dgrader,%2425%2C000%20and%20the%20aforementioned%20title.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does every blessed TJ thread have to devolve into morons complaining about the admission systems?!?! Give it a rest!!!! Let us talk about the school without sucking every thread down the same rabbit hole loop about admissions!

The current environment at TJ is highly influenced by the difference in caliber of students there under this new admissions process.

Yes, many of the kids who were getting in under the old system were only able to do so because they had advanced access to the admission test. This let pretty average kids appear as gifted. Now at least they select the top kids from each school so the caliber is a bit higher.

Except they aren't selecting the top kids at any of the schools. The selection process is fairly random. There might be some filtering for writing ability, which seems a lot like picking your basketball team based on bowling scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does every blessed TJ thread have to devolve into morons complaining about the admission systems?!?! Give it a rest!!!! Let us talk about the school without sucking every thread down the same rabbit hole loop about admissions!

Similar to the moron who keeps hallucinating about the fictitious test buying

Accept that the only fictious part were the morons who keep trying to sweep this under the rug despite numerous accounts and sources that validate this.

You are fooling noone and only make your side of the argument look intellectually bankrupt.
This change was made for racial reason. You can argue that the racial reasons are good reasons but it is clear that is why the changes were made.
It was certainly not an effort to improve the caliber of students.
We know that the student quality has dropped to the lowest levels seen by the current teachers at TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here can anyone with a child there now share teaching style please?

My kid just completed his freshman year at TJ. He really enjoyed it. The teaching style varied—he had some very good teachers, and he also had some classes where he had to teach himself. We used those classes as their own teaching moment, saying to our kid that sometimes you have to adjust your strategies to meet the teacher where they are. Overall the workload was reasonable—and perhaps even a bit less than he thought it would be going in.

[Anonymous]

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How do you even know if this kid is a good student? What if he got the idea from someone else? Or if he got the award for DEI reasons. What if he is a terrible writer? There are too many unknown factors to know if he would be a good student at TJ.

You can be a terrible writer in 8th grade and be a good student at TJ. You can learn to improve your writing to a high level in high school.