T20s vs Oxbridge

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Anonymous wrote:Oxbridge is easily T15 equivalent in the US.

More like 15-25. But easier to get in than 15-25.

Academic rigor is great. But the same is true at Reed…

Cambridge and Oxford 15-25 equivalent? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Cambridge is fairly universally accepted in academic circles as the nr 1 university in the world. Oxford not far behind.

Too funny.

Are you saying that it is "universally accepted in academic circles" that Cambridge is better than Harvard and/or MIT?

Small sample but I personally know a couple of kids at both Oxford and Cambridge. We lived in the UK and we knew the kids from DC's school, they spent time in our house, vaca'ed with us. They were bright students who worked hard. But they were NOT genius or spectacular by any means. Pound for pound the kids at Oxford and Cambridge are more like our 15-25, not HYPSM.
Same for LSE btw.
Don't believe the global rankings hype.

HPYSM aren't filled with geniuses. Anyone who believes so hasn't spent much time with friends at the colleges. Ultimately, an Oxford/Cambridge kid is likely going to whoop your ass in a single subject, because of the way their education is set up. An American elite student will be holistically solid, but not excellent until later in their academic journey.

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Ivy much harder than Oxbridge academically…

Typically, the opposite is said. Many undergrad programs have to set up their study abroads with Oxbridge so students don't have to take the exams (where a majority of your grade comes from). Oxbridge is the place to be if you're looking for an international career, but, staying home bound, hpysm is where its at.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is stupid. There's been plenty on Oxford and Cambridge recently that have been informative and detailed, not this dick swinging nonsense.

Thanks for the image, dude.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is stupid. There's been plenty on Oxford and Cambridge recently that have been informative and detailed, not this dick swinging nonsense.

Thanks for the image, dude.

You're one of them.

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Anonymous wrote:Oxbridge is easily T15 equivalent in the US.

More like 15-25. But easier to get in than 15-25.

Academic rigor is great. But the same is true at Reed…

Cambridge and Oxford 15-25 equivalent? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Cambridge is fairly universally accepted in academic circles as the nr 1 university in the world. Oxford not far behind.

Too funny.

Are you saying that it is "universally accepted in academic circles" that Cambridge is better than Harvard and/or MIT?

Small sample but I personally know a couple of kids at both Oxford and Cambridge. We lived in the UK and we knew the kids from DC's school, they spent time in our house, vaca'ed with us. They were bright students who worked hard. But they were NOT genius or spectacular by any means. Pound for pound the kids at Oxford and Cambridge are more like our 15-25, not HYPSM.
Same for LSE btw.
Don't believe the global rankings hype.

HPYSM aren't filled with geniuses. Anyone who believes so hasn't spent much time with friends at the colleges. Ultimately, an Oxford/Cambridge kid is likely going to whoop your ass in a single subject, because of the way their education is set up. An American elite student will be holistically solid, but not excellent until later in their academic journey.

+100

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oxbridge is easily T15 equivalent in the US.

More like 15-25. But easier to get in than 15-25.

Academic rigor is great. But the same is true at Reed…

Cambridge and Oxford 15-25 equivalent? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Cambridge is fairly universally accepted in academic circles as the nr 1 university in the world. Oxford not far behind.

Too funny.

Are you saying that it is "universally accepted in academic circles" that Cambridge is better than Harvard and/or MIT?

Small sample but I personally know a couple of kids at both Oxford and Cambridge. We lived in the UK and we knew the kids from DC's school, they spent time in our house, vaca'ed with us. They were bright students who worked hard. But they were NOT genius or spectacular by any means. Pound for pound the kids at Oxford and Cambridge are more like our 15-25, not HYPSM.
Same for LSE btw.
Don't believe the global rankings hype.

And my "small sample" is the exact opposite. I have a kid at Oxford and have been SO IMPRESSED by his cohorts that I've met in person. These are really extraordinary people from around the world. I can't verify if they are genius of course (I am - four standard deviations above normal) but DS's friends are truly, truly impressive people who, in many cases,[b] will become world leaders[/b]. I've already seen it happen with those who have started initiatives at Oxford and have gone off to excel in programs or developments in their home country or even back here at US law schools.

Lol, this post is really something.

https://www.oxford-royale.com/articles/7-rulers-who-studied-at-oxford/

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oxbridge is easily T15 equivalent in the US.

More like 15-25. But easier to get in than 15-25.

Academic rigor is great. But the same is true at Reed…

Cambridge and Oxford 15-25 equivalent? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Cambridge is fairly universally accepted in academic circles as the nr 1 university in the world. Oxford not far behind.

Too funny.

Are you saying that it is "universally accepted in academic circles" that Cambridge is better than Harvard and/or MIT?

Small sample but I personally know a couple of kids at both Oxford and Cambridge. We lived in the UK and we knew the kids from DC's school, they spent time in our house, vaca'ed with us. They were bright students who worked hard. But they were NOT genius or spectacular by any means. Pound for pound the kids at Oxford and Cambridge are more like our 15-25, not HYPSM.
Same for LSE btw.
Don't believe the global rankings hype.

And my "small sample" is the exact opposite. I have a kid at Oxford and have been SO IMPRESSED by his cohorts that I've met in person. These are really extraordinary people from around the world. I can't verify if they are genius of course (I am - four standard deviations above normal) but DS's friends are truly, truly impressive people who, in many cases,[b] will become world leaders[/b]. I've already seen it happen with those who have started initiatives at Oxford and have gone off to excel in programs or developments in their home country or even back here at US law schools.

Lol, this post is really something.

https://www.oxford-royale.com/articles/7-rulers-who-studied-at-oxford/

THe point is that you are going to meet a different cohort of students at Oxford than at a T20, and many more international students. And many famous. https://www.immerse.education/university/oxford/notable-alumni/

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oxbridge is easily T15 equivalent in the US.

More like 15-25. But easier to get in than 15-25.

Academic rigor is great. But the same is true at Reed…

Cambridge and Oxford 15-25 equivalent? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Cambridge is fairly universally accepted in academic circles as the nr 1 university in the world. Oxford not far behind.

Too funny.

Are you saying that it is "universally accepted in academic circles" that Cambridge is better than Harvard and/or MIT?

Small sample but I personally know a couple of kids at both Oxford and Cambridge. We lived in the UK and we knew the kids from DC's school, they spent time in our house, vaca'ed with us. They were bright students who worked hard. But they were NOT genius or spectacular by any means. Pound for pound the kids at Oxford and Cambridge are more like our 15-25, not HYPSM.
Same for LSE btw.
Don't believe the global rankings hype.

And my "small sample" is the exact opposite. I have a kid at Oxford and have been SO IMPRESSED by his cohorts that I've met in person. These are really extraordinary people from around the world. I can't verify if they are genius of course (I am - four standard deviations above normal) but DS's friends are truly, truly impressive people who, in many cases,[b] will become world leaders[/b]. I've already seen it happen with those who have started initiatives at Oxford and have gone off to excel in programs or developments in their home country or even back here at US law schools.

Lol, this post is really something.

https://www.oxford-royale.com/articles/7-rulers-who-studied-at-oxford/

That list is…seven people, none of whom are current world leaders.

Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of great Oxford grads, and some of them will go on to do great things, but “DS’s friends…in many cases will become world leaders” is a hilariously absurd statement.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oxbridge is easily T15 equivalent in the US.

More like 15-25. But easier to get in than 15-25.

Academic rigor is great. But the same is true at Reed…

Cambridge and Oxford 15-25 equivalent? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Cambridge is fairly universally accepted in academic circles as the nr 1 university in the world. Oxford not far behind.

Too funny.

Are you saying that it is "universally accepted in academic circles" that Cambridge is better than Harvard and/or MIT?

Small sample but I personally know a couple of kids at both Oxford and Cambridge. We lived in the UK and we knew the kids from DC's school, they spent time in our house, vaca'ed with us. They were bright students who worked hard. But they were NOT genius or spectacular by any means. Pound for pound the kids at Oxford and Cambridge are more like our 15-25, not HYPSM.
Same for LSE btw.
Don't believe the global rankings hype.

And my "small sample" is the exact opposite. I have a kid at Oxford and have been SO IMPRESSED by his cohorts that I've met in person. These are really extraordinary people from around the world. I can't verify if they are genius of course (I am - four standard deviations above normal) but DS's friends are truly, truly impressive people who, in many cases,[b] will become world leaders[/b]. I've already seen it happen with those who have started initiatives at Oxford and have gone off to excel in programs or developments in their home country or even back here at US law schools.

Lol, this post is really something.

https://www.oxford-royale.com/articles/7-rulers-who-studied-at-oxford/

That list is…seven people, none of whom are current world leaders.

Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of great Oxford grads, and some of them will go on to do great things, but “DS’s friends…in many cases will become world leaders” is a hilariously absurd statement.

DP but no, it's not absurd at all, not if you are in the know and it is easy to be so. Many go on to run the country in the UK, the BBC and various other power houses including The Economist and financial institutions. That has always been the way, since Oxford opened its doors in 1096 and still today.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oxbridge is easily T15 equivalent in the US.

More like 15-25. But easier to get in than 15-25.

Academic rigor is great. But the same is true at Reed…

Cambridge and Oxford 15-25 equivalent? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Cambridge is fairly universally accepted in academic circles as the nr 1 university in the world. Oxford not far behind.

Too funny.

Are you saying that it is "universally accepted in academic circles" that Cambridge is better than Harvard and/or MIT?

Small sample but I personally know a couple of kids at both Oxford and Cambridge. We lived in the UK and we knew the kids from DC's school, they spent time in our house, vaca'ed with us. They were bright students who worked hard. But they were NOT genius or spectacular by any means. Pound for pound the kids at Oxford and Cambridge are more like our 15-25, not HYPSM.
Same for LSE btw.
Don't believe the global rankings hype.

And my "small sample" is the exact opposite. I have a kid at Oxford and have been SO IMPRESSED by his cohorts that I've met in person. These are really extraordinary people from around the world. I can't verify if they are genius of course (I am - four standard deviations above normal) but DS's friends are truly, truly impressive people who, in many cases,[b] will become world leaders[/b]. I've already seen it happen with those who have started initiatives at Oxford and have gone off to excel in programs or developments in their home country or even back here at US law schools.

Lol, this post is really something.

https://www.oxford-royale.com/articles/7-rulers-who-studied-at-oxford/

That list is…seven people, none of whom are current world leaders.

Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of great Oxford grads, and some of them will go on to do great things, but “DS’s friends…in many cases will become world leaders” is a hilariously absurd statement.

DP but no, it's not absurd at all, not if you are in the know and it is easy to be so. Many go on to run the country in the UK, the BBC and various other power houses including The Economist and financial institutions. That has always been the way, since Oxford opened its doors in 1096 and still today.

As someone who studied African history, the amount of post-colonial rulers that went to Oxbridge is overwhelming. Oxford is the destination of many high-class African and Asian. One of my former professors was two doors away from the now former president of Ghana! UK universities are much more international in their student body and have very high-profile people around you at all times.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oxbridge is easily T15 equivalent in the US.

More like 15-25. But easier to get in than 15-25.

Academic rigor is great. But the same is true at Reed…

Cambridge and Oxford 15-25 equivalent? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Cambridge is fairly universally accepted in academic circles as the nr 1 university in the world. Oxford not far behind.

Too funny.

Are you saying that it is "universally accepted in academic circles" that Cambridge is better than Harvard and/or MIT?

Small sample but I personally know a couple of kids at both Oxford and Cambridge. We lived in the UK and we knew the kids from DC's school, they spent time in our house, vaca'ed with us. They were bright students who worked hard. But they were NOT genius or spectacular by any means. Pound for pound the kids at Oxford and Cambridge are more like our 15-25, not HYPSM.
Same for LSE btw.
Don't believe the global rankings hype.

And my "small sample" is the exact opposite. I have a kid at Oxford and have been SO IMPRESSED by his cohorts that I've met in person. These are really extraordinary people from around the world. I can't verify if they are genius of course (I am - four standard deviations above normal) but DS's friends are truly, truly impressive people who, in many cases,[b] will become world leaders[/b]. I've already seen it happen with those who have started initiatives at Oxford and have gone off to excel in programs or developments in their home country or even back here at US law schools.

Lol, this post is really something.

https://www.oxford-royale.com/articles/7-rulers-who-studied-at-oxford/

That list is…seven people, none of whom are current world leaders.

Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of great Oxford grads, and some of them will go on to do great things, but “DS’s friends…in many cases will become world leaders” is a hilariously absurd statement.

DP but no, it's not absurd at all, not if you are in the know and it is easy to be so. Many go on to run the country in the UK, the BBC and various other power houses including The Economist and financial institutions. That has always been the way, since Oxford opened its doors in 1096 and still today.

Lol we went from “world leaders” to “working at a bank or the Economist”.

No one is doubting that world leaders attend Oxford. But that is a very small number of the total students, and the “many” of “DS’s friends” will not become “world leaders.” This isn’t even debatable, it’s completely absurd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is stupid. There's been plenty on Oxford and Cambridge recently that have been informative and detailed, not this dick swinging nonsense.

I think you mean “measuring,” not swinging

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oxbridge is easily T15 equivalent in the US.

More like 15-25. But easier to get in than 15-25.

Academic rigor is great. But the same is true at Reed…

Cambridge and Oxford 15-25 equivalent? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Cambridge is fairly universally accepted in academic circles as the nr 1 university in the world. Oxford not far behind.

Too funny.

Are you saying that it is "universally accepted in academic circles" that Cambridge is better than Harvard and/or MIT?

Small sample but I personally know a couple of kids at both Oxford and Cambridge. We lived in the UK and we knew the kids from DC's school, they spent time in our house, vaca'ed with us. They were bright students who worked hard. But they were NOT genius or spectacular by any means. Pound for pound the kids at Oxford and Cambridge are more like our 15-25, not HYPSM.
Same for LSE btw.
Don't believe the global rankings hype.

And my "small sample" is the exact opposite. I have a kid at Oxford and have been SO IMPRESSED by his cohorts that I've met in person. These are really extraordinary people from around the world. I can't verify if they are genius of course (I am - four standard deviations above normal) but DS's friends are truly, truly impressive people who, in many cases,[b] will become world leaders[/b]. I've already seen it happen with those who have started initiatives at Oxford and have gone off to excel in programs or developments in their home country or even back here at US law schools.

Lol, this post is really something.

https://www.oxford-royale.com/articles/7-rulers-who-studied-at-oxford/

That list is…seven people, none of whom are current world leaders.

Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of great Oxford grads, and some of them will go on to do great things, but “DS’s friends…in many cases will become world leaders” is a hilariously absurd statement.

DP but no, it's not absurd at all, not if you are in the know and it is easy to be so. Many go on to run the country in the UK, the BBC and various other power houses including The Economist and financial institutions. That has always been the way, since Oxford opened its doors in 1096 and still today.

Lol we went from “world leaders” to “working at a bank or the Economist”.

No one is doubting that world leaders attend Oxford. But that is a very small number of the total students, and the “many” of “DS’s friends” will not become “world leaders.” This isn’t even debatable, it’s completely absurd.

What a stupid comment. Would you think an American institution that has alum running the Fed is just some student "working at a bank." Janet Yellen, for example, is very much a world leader. So are writers for the New York Times...

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is stupid. There's been plenty on Oxford and Cambridge recently that have been informative and detailed, not this dick swinging nonsense.

I think you mean “measuring,” not swinging

Dick swinging was a much more visceral descriptor. No reason to be so antiquated about everything

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Anonymous wrote:Oxbridge is easily T15 equivalent in the US.

More like 15-25. But easier to get in than 15-25.

Academic rigor is great. But the same is true at Reed…

Cambridge and Oxford 15-25 equivalent? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Cambridge is fairly universally accepted in academic circles as the nr 1 university in the world. Oxford not far behind.

Too funny.

Are you saying that it is "universally accepted in academic circles" that Cambridge is better than Harvard and/or MIT?

Small sample but I personally know a couple of kids at both Oxford and Cambridge. We lived in the UK and we knew the kids from DC's school, they spent time in our house, vaca'ed with us. They were bright students who worked hard. But they were NOT genius or spectacular by any means. Pound for pound the kids at Oxford and Cambridge are more like our 15-25, not HYPSM.
Same for LSE btw.
Don't believe the global rankings hype.

And my "small sample" is the exact opposite. I have a kid at Oxford and have been SO IMPRESSED by his cohorts that I've met in person. These are really extraordinary people from around the world. I can't verify if they are genius of course (I am - four standard deviations above normal) but DS's friends are truly, truly impressive people who, in many cases,[b] will become world leaders[/b]. I've already seen it happen with those who have started initiatives at Oxford and have gone off to excel in programs or developments in their home country or even back here at US law schools.

Lol, this post is really something.

https://www.oxford-royale.com/articles/7-rulers-who-studied-at-oxford/

That list is…seven people, none of whom are current world leaders.

Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of great Oxford grads, and some of them will go on to do great things, but “DS’s friends…in many cases will become world leaders” is a hilariously absurd statement.

DP but no, it's not absurd at all, not if you are in the know and it is easy to be so. Many go on to run the country in the UK, the BBC and various other power houses including The Economist and financial institutions. That has always been the way, since Oxford opened its doors in 1096 and still today.

Lol we went from “world leaders” to “working at a bank or the Economist”.

No one is doubting that world leaders attend Oxford. But that is a very small number of the total students, and the “many” of “DS’s friends” will not become “world leaders.” This isn’t even debatable, it’s completely absurd.

What a stupid comment. Would you think an American institution that has alum running the Fed is just some student "working at a bank." Janet Yellen, for example, is very much a world leader. So are writers for the New York Times...

Lol, no, this is just embarrassing now.